John Callies was the engineer in charge of developing the Pontiac Fiero as the Pace car for the Indy 500 in 1984. At the Engine Performance Expo in Jan 2021, John was interviewed and asked to describe that development process. This is a fantastic war story for anyone who likes the Pontiac Fiero. 1. Start at engineperformanceexpo.com 2. Register with your name & email address. 3. Enter the Expo. 4. Browse your way to Day 3 and start the Day 3 replay. 5. John Callies' interview starts at 03:33:54.