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Danny McIlmoyle ??? by Stricken
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Does anyone have a phone number for Danny McIlmoyle? I ordered a 3800 harness from him a month ago, it has not arrived, and he is not answering my emails or private messages. He said it shipped, but did not provide a tracking number. Because he was referenced in the forums a number of times (particularly the 3800 Complete Parts List thread), I assumed he was a reputable seller and made the mistake of Paypal-ing him without buyer protection.
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It just amazes me...
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Originally posted by Stricken:

Does anyone have a phone number for Danny McIlmoyle?

I assumed he was a reputable seller and made the mistake of Paypal-ing him without buyer protection.



I believe his username here is FIEROFLYER. Did you research him at all before you sent him money?

You might want to read This thread.

Never ever send money (that you don't wish to lose) to a stranger without some sort of protection.
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You might want to read This thread.



Yep. People should do their research on here before buying anything. Many, many thieves on this forum.
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It's an excellent idea to always use PayPal so you have buyer protection. I would never send anyone a money order to buy goods as you have absolutely no protection. There are some issues with the person you purchased the harness from . I won't go into it but if you do a search all of these are well documented.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

It's an excellent idea to always use PayPal so you have buyer protection. I would never send anyone a money order to buy goods as you have absolutely no protection. There are some issues with the person you purchased the harness from . I won't go into it but if you do a search all of these are well documented.



I always thought that you had protection as long as you don't send the money as a gift. Once sent as a gift, you are at the seller's mercy. If the money was sent the right way, Paypal usually sides with the buyer and then goes after the seller.

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Deja vu..... Unfortunately in Canada we don't have internet or tracking numbers, so you are out of luck

If you get your money back, I would suggest contacting Olejodad- he will deliver as promised

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


I always thought that you had protection as long as you don't send the money as a gift. Once sent as a gift, you are at the seller's mercy. If the money was sent the right way, Paypal usually sides with the buyer and then goes after the seller.



Certainly not true in all cases. PayPal recently declined to refund my money when an item I purchased was not delivered to me. Their reason was that the seller said they shipped it to me and that they had a tracking number that indicated delivery. PayPal never asked me for any documentation disputing this "delivery" and neither PayPal or the seller has provided me a copy of the delivery receipt even though the seller stated that he had one. BTW, PayPal delayed responding to my case for almost two months and left me without the option to go to the credit card company to get my money back (60 days from the purchase date).

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Just an update. I've had more than one person say it takes forever for shipping from Canada, and that he's currently indisposed, so I'm stopping short of calling him a thief... for now.

However, he has not provided a tracking number, and is completely ignoring all of my attempts to contact him, and I'm not an isolated case, apparently. That should be enough for everyone on this forum to villify him. I've had a lot of transactions on a lot of forums without issue until now.
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Originally posted by Stricken:

...he has not provided a tracking number, and is completely ignoring all of my attempts to contact him, and I'm not an isolated case, apparently. That should be enough for everyone on this forum to villify him.


Nobody here is trying to protect him. Information on FIEROFLYER's past antics are readily available for anyone and everyone to read in the archives. Hopefully he'll get around to shipping you your harness.
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I had 2 of his harnesses, one took a while and had the same issues you're speaking about... did finally arrive and worked as described. Both harnesses worked without issue for me.

No idea why he's always making promises he can't deliver on in terms of delivery.. hope you get your harness.

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It would be nice to have a "BUYER BEWARE" section on the forum.
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Just to give you some hope, I have had only good experiences with him in the past. I try to stay out of the drama but I hope you get your harness.
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Originally posted by doublec4:

Just to give you some hope, I have had only good experiences with him in the past. I try to stay out of the drama but I hope you get your harness.

Certainly a while back, some forum members received product from Dan but what is he doing lately? Why did he disappear and stop posting on this forum? That is suspicious behavior. There is no excuse for any vendor to ignore a buyers request for information on his order. That is not the right way to do business.
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I've also done business with FieroFlyer (Dan McIlmoyle) and while communication was not his strong point and there were several delays I did end up receiving everything that was purchased. I did have to wait a few extra months and did go through periods of radio silence but he did supply everything he promised to do. I don't think that he is running a business per say, it sounds like he is taking jobs and doing it to supplement his income on the side when he has time. I do not know him personally and I am no longer in communication with him so I cannot really help you I'm just hoping I can reassure you a little.

I can't say anything negative about the quality of his work and I would deal with him again judging by my own experience the wait was worth it for me considering the price others were charging for the same work.

I do hope you get your product, it sucks being in limbo or on a time crunch.

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It is irrelevant if someone "can" do decent work. If money is paid and work is not delivered, especially without communication, he is a scammer. This is not the first, second... or even the fifth time he has done this. Always BS excuses about blaming the post office, health problems, dog ate my homework, moving, zombie apocalypse... internet down... all BS. His internet and communication work just fine when he is trying to collect payment.

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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:

Deja vu..... Unfortunately in Canada we don't have internet or tracking numbers, so you are out of luck

If you get your money back, I would suggest contacting Olejodad- he will deliver as promised



Uh, what?
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Andrew.. I was trying to be sarcastic. I guess it didn't work

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Plenty of scammers have preyed on this forum. I had someone rip me off then direct me to his lawyer father who told me to get f so we talked about outside of law and i got paid from daddy.
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Of the couple of names offered here, I dont see any I would trust to build my harnesses.
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Plenty of scammers have preyed on this forum. I had someone rip me off then direct me to his lawyer father who told me to get f so we talked about outside of law and i got paid from daddy.


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and how can we forget Slammed, MasterTunerAkimoto, Loyde Roscoe, Whodeanie, and a host of others that took money and supplied nothing. The bottom line though is that most forum members here are honest.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

and how can we forget Slammed, MasterTunerAkimoto, Loyde Roscoe, Ken Hines, Whodeanie, and a host of others that took money and supplied nothing.


Dennis, I don't feel Ken Hines deserves to mentioned in the same breath as those other people. Yes, Ken had a reputation for being slow to respond to emails, but I don't believe he was a "scammer" at all. Yes, I remember This thread from four years ago, but I was never convinced that the PFF member who was complaining had actually been dealing with the real Ken Hines. I suspect the upset member was duped into sending money to someone who was misrepresenting themself as Ken.

Ken Hines had been selling Fiero related items for ages. I bought a set of GT sail panels from him 15(?) years ago. He was definitely not some fly-by-night scammer.

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Dennis, I don't feel Ken Hines deserves to mentioned in the same breath as those other people. Yes, Ken had a reputation for being slow to respond to emails, but I don't believe he was a "scammer" at all. Yes, I remember This thread from four years ago, but I was never convinced that the PFF member who was complaining had actually been dealing with the real Ken Hines. I suspect the upset member was duped into sending money to someone who was misrepresenting themself as Ken.

Ken Hines had been selling Fiero related items for ages. I bought a set of GT sail panels from him 15(?) years ago. He was definitely not some fly-by-night scammer.



Gotta jump in here.
I also never heard Ken Hines mentioned as a scammer. The others? Well...

Edit - Didn't he die of cancer? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

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Gotta jump in here.
I also never heard Ken Hines mentioned as a scammer. The others? Well...

Edit - Didn't he die of cancer? Or am I confusing him with someone else?



Ken Hines sold Fiero fiberglass for quite a few years. Towards the end of his business dealing there was a report of him taking money and not delivering but on second thought ,his web domain may have been taken over by a scammer. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and edit my post to remove his name.
The guy that died of cancer was Chris Munson. IIRC, he was in his 30's. .

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I have today received his harness, so I'm here to offer partial vindication.... After waiting two months. Quality is good enough for my purposes.

Apparently, Customs kicked his first shipment back. I half expected something like this when I ordered. What I don't like (obviously) is that I went a full month and a slew of messages across multiple platforms with zero response. Finally, he updated me a couple weeks ago with a single Facebook message followed by a tracking number several days later. I think he had to pay shipping twice, and the second time he went with a different carrier, so some credit to him for following through. Had he been responsive throughout and not just before I sent him money, I really would not be upset. I don't think he's a scammer, but I can certainly see how orders might get lost as reference above. Decide for yourself, but I wouldn't order from him again.

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The guy that died of cancer was Chris Munson. IIRC, he was in his 30's. .


No. Not Kris. Kris Munsen also died of cancer, but that's not who I'm thinking of. There was definitely someone else. (It wasn't Todd Mullenaux, either.)
Somebody from the midwest, or north of there.

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No. Not Kris. Kris Munsen also died of cancer, but that's not who I'm thinking of. There was definitely someone else. (It wasn't Todd Mullenaux, either.)
Somebody from the midwest, or north of there.

The other guy that did great fiberglass work might be Joe Openhoven of Driven Dreams of Duluth Minnesota. Joe died of cancer in early 2008. His fiberglass work was among the best. Sorry to hijack the thread but it looks like the OP got product.

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Originally posted by Stricken:

What I don't like (obviously) is that I went a full month and a slew of messages across multiple platforms with zero response.


Agreed, there's no excuse for that. However, it's good to hear that you finally got your harness. Thanks for the update.
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I hate when I read a comment or thread where someone is having an issue with Danny. When I swapped my 84 3 years ago and I read through every 3900 swap thread I saw his work all over them. Some issues but a lot of success. I sent my stuff to him including my pcm to program and got it back in less than 4 weeks. I also emailed and called him a couple of times following up on some questions and he was very helpful. A year later I LS swapped my 96 Z71 and waited 8 weeks for a harness from a prominent harness operation in Florida. I got no communication till it showed up at my door other than an initial promise date. The harness from Danny looked great for a great price and my computer was programmed. 15K later still great. He has been in it a long time and built a lot of harnesses and swapped a lot of cars. Lack of communication often spoils things and is hard to recover from, but there is usually missing pieces to the story. Glad you got your harness. Good luck with your swap.
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