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GM E-Turbo 3 cylinder for a swap? by Daryl M
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Anyone interested in the GM E-Turbo engine for a swap? Anyone know how much it weighs, it's physical size and if the CV transmission would be a reasonable choice? The thing can't weigh much. And puts out more power than the 2.8.
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Report this Post09-05-2020 02:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I would give the same advice as the Most Interesting Man in the World says about rollerblading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfKTDMEoC88

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I would give the same advice as the Most Interesting Man in the World says about rollerblading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfKTDMEoC88


I'll register your post as not being a fan.
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It isn't a micro car or a motor bike.
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Report this Post09-07-2020 10:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaClick Here to Email Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
IMO this eTurbo engine swap would be a poor choice. For the cost and work that it would take to install this engine, the result would be just little bit more power (156 HP) than the stock 2.8L (140 HP).

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Report this Post09-07-2020 08:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Daryl MClick Here to Email Daryl MSend a Private Message to Daryl MEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not just concerned about the power, but I was intrigued by the idea af a car with better performance (though not a lot more) with a motor that is significantly lighter and capable of much better gas mileage.
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Wonder what mpg would be for that engine(in a Fiero)? Is 50 about the highest so far, with the VW TDI swap?
The proposal isn't sexy, but fuel economy and similar performance isn't 'nothing'. I'll play along for a minute.

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Wonder what mpg would be for that engine(in a Fiero)? Is 50 about the highest so far, with the VW TDI swap?
The proposal isn't sexy, but fuel economy and similar performance isn't 'nothing'. I'll play along for a minute.



They put the motor in the new Malibu. It makes 156hp and 173ftlbs of torque. Not a big increase, but significantly more than the stock 2.8. I can't get weight numbers on this 3 cyl, but the 4 cyl version is 135 pounds lighter than the 2.8. I'm also having trouble getting mileage numbers on any car with this engine.
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Report this Post09-08-2020 10:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Why not an Ecotec? tons of power, aftermarket support, and proven to work in a Fiero?
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I had similar thoughts with the Ford 1.0L triple. If someone was doing a challenge to do a sub 2000 pound Fiero it might be cool, but like others have said, that's a lot of R&D time and money that could be spent elsewhere making a more fun one.
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:

Why not an Ecotec? tons of power, aftermarket support, and proven to work in a Fiero?

I have no problem with the Ecotec. Just looking at newer options that may offer advantages that the Ecotec does not. Got to keep up with technology you know.
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You mean L3T/L3Z engine? And has CV Trans too?
You'll likely Never get them to work in anything came w/o this.

Many to Most New vehicles like John Deer Tractors use encryption on many things to keep you out of PCM and other parts.
Not ever Dealers have "permission" to program most things in the car using "Factory Authorize" scanners. Often can't use Used parts either because many parts are "smart" w/ built-in Digital Serial Numbers etc and tied to or part of DRM. Bad or Worse then "VIN Locked" sound for 2000 and later GM cars that even Dealers can't upgrade the radio.

And Before you buy a new car w/ engine w/ "start-stop technology" know that many times you Cannot shut off this "feature."
Few may turn off "permanently." Some only Temporary only till you park. Others Never. Most are moving to the Never column.
This "Tech" is BS and Won't save you much if any. Not money, Not Fuel, and even Not Emissions too. This crap is only to push fake numbers to pass US EPA, Euro 6 and related rules.

CVT have a lot of problems. Nissan has been pushing this for ~ 10 years and sued for it.
CVT barely work in Snow Mobiles etc and many owners carry a spare belt.
Car makers have tried to push them for car for 3+ Decades that I know of and have Many problems.
The Rubber belt CVT for off road use is cheap and DIY fixable... CVT in cars wears out often faster then any other trans then you're very screwed and often can't get parts except maybe at Dealers w/ sky high prices.

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CVT s work great in snowmobiles. Nothing like pinning it watching the revs hit 8000 and the skis pull off the snow. Every machine comes with a spare belt. They are a wear part .
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