Did a search, found nothing, but you guys must have talked about headlight upgrades or better lights, what you guys have to say about that? I would not mind better brighter lights.
I've been running these LEDs for over 2 years. I bought them on Amazon. I'm sure there must be better stuff on the market now, but they work very well. Literally like night and day. They have both high and low beam functions. I've never been flashed or yelled at by anyone. They are plug and play.
------------------ 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT, Black w/Beechwood interior Featured in the 2018 Fiero Store calendar month of May 2018 Volkswagen Golf GTI S
"Dim" HL can be one to several problems. Many don't fix them and new or "upgraded" HL can have same problems and even have a fire because of crap wiring. See my Cave, Headlights
⚠️ A lot of Amazon Ebay and other LED HL are illegal. Worse, often have bogus DOT mark. When you only see this on HL lens... Is a counterfeit and illegal.
Look at any legal HL every mark "printed" on lenses is required to be legal including name/logo from the maker. Bottom of HL page has 1 example showing a full DOT string/code for HL.
Very few aftermarket LED HL are actually DOT listed and legal. Most have a high cost like $200 $300 or more. Recent cheaper ones now have tested for DOT, one example in this thread but many iffy to poor reviews on amazon and others. //www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/098299-2.html
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I've been running these LEDs for over 2 years. I bought them on Amazon. I'm sure there must be better stuff on the market now, but they work very well. Literally like night and day. They have both high and low beam functions. I've never been flashed or yelled at by anyone. They are plug and play.
Do they somehow direct the beam pattern? If you could, any pics of the pattern on say.. a garage door?
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Do they somehow direct the beam pattern? If you could, any pics of the pattern on say.. a garage door?
Haven't got any pictures like that and I don't take it out often at night, but I did have my wife snap this picture taken on a dark road shortly after I installed them.
The light is most certainly not as focused as the OE headlamps, but it's also not as scattered as you might think it could be. It is much brighter and whiter.
I've never had any complaints from other drivers and it's nice knowing I'm being seen by the monstrous SUVs that prowl this area. It's also much easier on my aging eyes.
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Originally posted by 87_FieroGT: Haven't got any pictures like that and I don't take it out often at night, but I did have my wife snap this picture taken on a dark road shortly after I installed them.
The light is most certainly not as focused as the OE headlamps, but it's also not as scattered as you might think it could be. It is much brighter and whiter.
I've never had any complaints from other drivers and it's nice knowing I'm being seen by the monstrous SUVs that prowl this area. It's also much easier on my aging eyes.
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They don't flash you or otherwise complain mean nothing. You're lighting trees and Back of sign(s) to easily take picture = lights are likely blinding others.
Is why 2.5 wanted that pic. Such pic's show light pattern especially on Low Beam.
For Traditional DOT "Sealed Beam" HL ("Standard" and Halogens), Both Beams can light up Face of road signs including above a road but the road signs has reflective finishes for this. Newer types w/ tighter cutoff, the LB have a harder time to light signs mounted high above or left side of roads. The "kink" cutoff allows more light to the right. Legal High Beams don't cutoff but still focus enough won't light trees above or way off the road sideways. See http://www.vehiclergb.com/news/blog-a-7391744.html for RHT DOT and ECE cutoff examples plus LHT ECE cutoff for UK and others. ETA-->Seems example cutoff link sells many iffy to illegal HL even when have that page. Is one of best showing LB cutoff in 1 short page.
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Haven't got any pictures like that and I don't take it out often at night, but I did have my wife snap this picture taken on a dark road shortly after I installed them.
The light is most certainly not as focused as the OE headlamps, but it's also not as scattered as you might think it could be. It is much brighter and whiter.
I've never had any complaints from other drivers and it's nice knowing I'm being seen by the monstrous SUVs that prowl this area. It's also much easier on my aging eyes.
I also put replays into the wiring to the bulbs so that the hi/low switch switches the relay and the power to the bulbs goes via the relay. Since my battery is up front it made the path from the power source (battery) to the load (bulb) a lot shorter. Not as good as high power leds maybe but much better than stock/silverstars.
I also put replays into the wiring to the bulbs so that the hi/low switch switches the relay and the power to the bulbs goes via the relay. Since my battery is up front it made the path from the power source (battery) to the load (bulb) a lot shorter. Not as good as high power leds maybe but much better than stock/silverstars.
Funny you post this. After reading some of the input here, I revisited available lighting options and ordered new Hella (003427291) conversion lights, LEDs, and other hardware to overhaul the lights again. Still waiting on parts, but I'll update folks with the results once I'm done. All told, I have about $240 invested in this new project so far. Stay tuned.
------------------ 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT, Black w/Beechwood interior Featured in the 2018 Fiero Store calendar month of May 2018 Volkswagen Golf GTI S
Originally posted by 87_FieroGT: Funny you post this. After reading some of the input here, I revisited available lighting options and ordered new Hella (003427291) conversion lights, LEDs, and other hardware to overhaul the lights again. Still waiting on parts, but I'll update folks with the results once I'm done. All told, I have about $240 invested in this new project so far. Stay tuned.
Does the Hella Bucket direct the beam down from other drivers?
They don't flash you or otherwise complain mean nothing. You're lighting trees and Back of sign(s) to easily take picture = lights are likely blinding others.
I'm fairly certain if lights have been blinding others, people would have flashed them. There is still a very large percentage of people who are always very eager to remind others they are being blinded.
My LPBs use 60mm Hellas... which have a cut off line which helps NOT blinding oncoming cars... Here are some of my customers cars with my LPB kits installed..
My LPBs use 60mm Hellas... which have a cut off line which helps NOT blinding oncoming cars... Here are some of my customers cars with my LPB kits installed..
regards Danyel
Still thinking of doing these someday. Which 60mm lights do you recommend? Also ho much is your kit?
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Does the Hella Bucket direct the beam down from other drivers?
I haven't installed them yet so I can't comment on my experience with how the light projects, but it does meet SAE and DOT requirements. Here is a link to the Hella product page.
Hella makes many parts including HL for OEM so isn't like most crap China HL from Ebay etc.
Hella, trucklite, and other DOT/SAE Shells only are legal and made to work w/ correct bulb number. Think is 9003 as Hella page doesn't say. All standard 9003 and other bulbs have correct LB cut off for US. Is the Bulbs that have the cut off but works w/ the shell to generate correct LB and HB patterns.
9003 are close to "Silverstar" etc "High Performance" H6054 Sealed Beam but you only replace the bulb when blown. Problem is when you have either, HL need Relays or OE wiring can/will have problems some covered in cave HL page.
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So I finally completed installing my new LEDs in the new Hella conversion housings.While there, I refinished my rusty buckets.
Took the car to a subterranean parking garage to try and find a dark place to test the lights. Got a shot of the light pattern against a wall from about 6 feet away. You can see a nice cut off line that was not there on my prior LEDs. The other shot in the garage was more difficult to see, but appeared to cast the light very well on the ground. I'll need to test it at night in the same area as my prior night driving picture for comparison later.
I'm happy with the results so far. They maintain a stock appearance, but the lighting is white and bright, which is what I was going for. Final judgement will be after a drive at night.
Here is a comparison of the Halogen bulb to the Lasfit 9003/H4 LEDs I used. LED is rated at 6000 lumens and 6000k color temp.
Refinished my rusty buckets.
Headlight fitted with LED.
Headlight fitted with LED and dust boot. Had to open up a hole in the boot for the LED fan.
All assembled
Installed in the car.
Light patter and cut off.
------------------ 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT, Black w/Beechwood interior Featured in the 2018 Fiero Store calendar month of May 2018 Volkswagen Golf GTI S
I have tried LED bulbs in a couple of my other vehicles, and while they were very bright, they didn't really project the light down the road very well. Do you guys notice this issue with your LEDs?
The factory headlights left much to be desired for night driving on unlit roads. I prefer the look of traditional headlights over the LED headlights so I used a pair of 4 x 6 Hella H4 headlights with 55/60 halogen bulbs with the Tony Kania-doublec4 low profile headlight mod. The Hella 4 x 6 headlights are ECE lights, the beam pattern is excellent and the car looks much better with the low profile look. The Hellas are a quality product and the mod is not hard or very costly with Tony's and doublec4's write ups as a guide. For me it was well worth the effort. I don't drive at night very much but when I do I can see very good.
► True poly-carbonate lenses ► Improved sealing from weather and elements ► ABS formed housing ► Anodized aluminum brackets ► Improved fit and finish all round ► Easier to aim headlight mechanism ►Lighter weight than previous versions
If you want a set... best bet is to go through my website... I don't check my PMs here frequently enough.
My LPBs use 60mm Hellas... which have a cut off line which helps NOT blinding oncoming cars... Here are some of my customers cars with my LPB kits installed..
While I love the look of LED's and the dual headlight conversion, I just used a set of direct fit 5 x7 Truck-lites that use replaceable Halogen bulbs. I did this about 8 years ago. Today they are now available in DOT LED versions. My Fiero is driven 95% during daylight hours so I saw no need for a further upgrade but if folks want to go the extra mile they can also fit adaptive headlights.
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