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Father/son Fiero fix up by Dave7
Started on: 06-22-2020 06:52 PM
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Report this Post06-22-2020 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave7Send a Private Message to Dave7Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post


So my middle boy (16) wants a Fiero. We had looked at a running driving 1984 example locally with four speed and four cylinder. It had a painted dash, funny shifter feel and was $3,200. A little too much and the four banger is not all that impressive. Pass.

We then checked out this 1985 GT with the 4spd, V6 combo. Had been sitting a long time. Missing radiator and a few other parts. Some claim of axle trouble. The body was nice and interior ok. Pass at $2k. These are harder to find than I recall! And more expensive than I thought.

We did go by the scrapyard in Calgary and they had three Fieros that could donate parts.



A semi local small town dealership had this one we had seen a few months ago. Again a 1985 GT with V6 and 4spd manual. When we approached it I thought it had frost but the paint was horrible, most notably on the hood. We went back to take a closer look. Had been sitting for years. Interior was ok. Paint toast, tires dry rotted. We got the owner to boost and it started. Ran with high idle for a bit then stumbled and died. I wondered if it was out of fuel but he swore that no, it had lots. But no engine knock which was a good sign. It had random new parts in the trunk. We made an offer as is and got it delivered.





We shot back to Calgary and snagged a hood. Sadly had faded headlight covers from another car.



Before



First wrenching on his own car for the boy.





So much better!



Some wet sanding, polish and clear coat. I am far from a body/paint man but certainly better.





The 16 year old owner did a good chunk of the work here.



Thermostat changed. Old one looked new but was stuck shut.



Exhaust had a rattle. The rear passenger side hanger was crusty and not hanging all that way anymore. The proper one was a steep $37US + shipping. Ouch.



Generic piece from Canadian Tire was $8 but not quite right.

Turn signals now working without turning the wipers on. A bit of cleaning on contacts set them right.
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Now for the sad part of the story. The car has a leak. Couldn't tell if it was engine or transmission. Went to check the fluid level in the transmission. For the 4spd it means pulling out the speed sensor. That went ok until the gear wheel fell off the end, sank down into the bottom of the gearbox. Did some searching online that said it is easiest to buy a new one and grind up the old in the gearbox. Unfortunately we drove it first then found out that I can't seem to find the right one. Bought a couple that said they would fit but don't. Anyone have one they would be willing to sell? Above is a bit of the old one.
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Originally posted by Dave7:

Had been sitting for years. Interior was ok. Paint toast, tires dry rotted. We got the owner to boost and it started... no engine knock which was a good sign.


Did you check for the most important thing... rust? More specifically, rusted rear upper frame rails.




I just hate to see anyone put a lot of time and/or money into a car before making sure it's not rotted out and worthless. Hopefully you and your son's Fiero is okay.

And welcome to the forum!

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Report this Post06-23-2020 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashClick Here to Email sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So you need a speed sensor for the 4 speed for an '85?

Welcome.
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Welcome to the forum!

I had been looking for 5 years the prices of the Fiero(at least on the west coast), and it was hard to find a good one under 3k.

Is great to have the opportunity to share a hobby with your son, he has a good taste in cars!

Like Patrick said, check under the trunk carpet for possible rust, or under the battery tray. (Is funny that one of the selling points of the Fiero was the plastic panels that don't rust, as shown in this dealer training video)

http://youtu.be/yKriBQnQLPk

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Report this Post06-23-2020 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave7Send a Private Message to Dave7Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks. This thing has hardly any rust anywhere. A nice, solid southern Alberta car.

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Originally posted by Dave7:

Thanks. This thing has hardly any rust anywhere. A nice, solid southern Alberta car.


Good to hear.

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Gear info: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...110502-2-093414.html

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Originally posted by sourmash:

So you need a speed sensor for the 4 speed for an '85?

Welcome.


Yes, do you have one for sale?
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I don't but was just clarifying because there are a lot of people with parts cars.
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Sounds good. Thanks.

We replaced the fan switch sensor the other day. The new one does not trigger the fan either oddly. A defective new part? I can trigger it manually so the wire all the back to the fan, relay and the fan itself works.





In absence of doing any real work we took a few beauty shots of it.
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Originally posted by Dave7:

We replaced the fan switch sensor the other day. The new one does not trigger the fan either oddly. A defective new part?
I can trigger it manually so the wire all the back to the fan, relay and the fan itself works.


The factory fan switch doesn't close until 235F which is damn close to the "red zone".
The fan will also come on when you turn on the A/C.

My GT has no A/C, so the only time my fan came on was in stop-n-go traffic on a really hot day close to "the red".
I replaced it with a 210F/200F switch (for 195F thermostat) which keeps engine temps more consistent.
http://rodneydickman.com/pr...o.php?products_id=88

PS - I have the VSS gear from the car you got the hood from.

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The factory fan switch doesn't close until 235F which is damn close to the "red zone".
The fan will also come on when you turn on the A/C.

My GT has no A/C, so the only time my fan came on was in stop-n-go traffic on a really hot day close to "the red".
I replaced it with a 210F/200F switch (for 195F thermostat) which keeps engine temps more consistent.
http://rodneydickman.com/pr...o.php?products_id=88

PS - I have the VSS gear from the car you got the hood from.



No A/C on this GT either. I bought the lower temperature switch as well as I wasn't really comfortable waiting until the red zone either.
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No A/C on this GT either. I bought the lower temperature switch as well as I wasn't really comfortable waiting until the red zone either.


The fan won't come on often if you're driving and car is moving.
With the 235F switch I never heard the fan for the first 2 years - until I was stuck in traffic because of an accident in Kelowna at 29C.
I wired in a manual toggle switch to ground the circuit and later installed the 210F/200F fan switch to do the job.

If fan isn't on after passing mid-point on gauge, switch may be bad (gauge not that accurate to start with).
Leave hood open and idle engine while monitoring gauge and wait it out until fan kicks in.

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Report this Post06-26-2020 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave7Send a Private Message to Dave7Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
With the manual switch what is the best path for the wires. Not too many places to poke wires through. I was thinking of pushing the wires from the engine (switch) into the cab but it looks almost easier to do from the front (replay).
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With the manual switch what is the best path for the wires..


I haven't used the manual switch since I installed the 210F/200F fan switch.
But it's nice to know it's there if the fan switch ever craps out.

The wiring already runs through the car.

C100 is the firewall connector right above the gas pedal.
Tap into the Dark Green/White stripe wire with a switch to ground.

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Thank you! Wired in a fan switch over ride. Car is now plated and insured. New tires booked for tomorrow. Just need to speed sensor wheel gear.
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