Hello, Anyone else noticing an increased frequency of Fieros showing up in media articles? Not only more frequently but with positive comments. Now these have not been main stream media that I've seen, some are clickbait lists of cars, but hey its gotta start somewhere!
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Could be because of the the new mid-engine Corvette. When you throw the term "mid-engine" out there, kinda pokes at the memory of the Fiero perhaps. Dunno...
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Hello, Anyone else noticing an increased frequency of Fieros showing up in media articles? Not only more frequently but with positive comments. Now these have not been main stream media that I've seen, some are clickbait lists of cars, but hey its gotta start somewhere!
Yes this is why I have posted here several times the new C8 is a very good thing for the Fiero.
The take will resurrect the Fiero into the conversation and GM will finally embrace the in a positive way as they will not want much said on the negative side.
Also I see the Corvette owners accepting the Fiero. Many have treated me well and many a C8 owner may pick up a Fiero to park in their collection.
Many forget the Ferrari Dino was the red headed step Chile of Fiat/Ferrari. It was the car no one wanted and the old man never would consider it a a Ferrari. Today it is a prize model and even the old man considered it a a Ferrari before he died.
Now if we can keep the nut job owners of either from messing this up.
I don't think Fieros have ever been thought about in a negative way by people. Yes, the snobbish and uninformed auto writers have always taken shots at them, but I can tell you that whenever I take my mint 84 out for a summer drive, people absolutely love it. The odd person may make a fire joke, but I take that as friendly ribbing. People love the car, and just about all of them have a story about either themselves, a family member, or a friend owning one at one time or another, and what a great experience it was. I don't think I've ever had anyone say anything negative about the car in a serious way.
I think the C8 is definitely helping to renew focus on the Fiero, but I think it is also critical for people drive and showcase their fieros (stock and modified) at national events. That is the only way things like this happen (scroll about 1/2 way down): https://www.hotrod.com/arti...-hot-rod-power-tour/
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V8 Fiero The world is going crazy over the new mid-engine Corvette, but we think Paul Smith has the right idea with his Fiero. Initially, the Pontiac Fiero was a hit in the '80s, but the car was a bit underpowered—especially if it was outfitted with the Iron Duke four-cylinder. Some of the cars also had an unfortunate tendency to catch fire. Smith has taken care of all that by swapping in an LS4 V8, which more than doubles the power to the wheels.
Of course, shoehorning a modern V8 into a Fiero is no easy task. "There are no kits for doing this," he explains. But with a little science, and trail-and-error, he figured out how to make it work. The aluminum block LS4 came out of a 2007 Chevy Impala SS—which was front-wheel drive, by the way. Smith manufactured the engine and accessory mount brackets and even the flywheel. He found that the clutch for a Ford Ranger pickup worked well because it has the correct spline count and is 10.5 inches in diameter. To that he mounted a G6 six-speed manual transmission.
I don't think Fieros have ever been thought about in a negative way by people.
Then how come they sell so cheap? Money don't lie.
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I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
Car & Drivel did everything they could to kill the Fiero...Back in the 80s and 90s they were extremely anti-US. Now I admit that US cars did not measure up in several ways back in the 80s...We were not used to building small cars, and our quality was not equal to the Japanese quality Via Edward Deming(An American)...But the absolute hatred that CD heaped on US autos was ridiculous. And it was obvious that they were doing everything to eliminate the Fiero.
To give you an idea how bad the Anti-American slant was at CD, David E. Davis, Editor-in-chief, LIKED the Lincoln Mk VII, but had to allow bad reviews by his staff....Shortly after his falling out with the owners of CD, he left and created Automobile magazine.
Please read both the positives (MT and R&T 1985 GT tests, 1987 R&T Special Peter Egan GT test) and the bad (Any CD test, and R&T's comparo between the 1988 Formula and the MR2 Supercharged) Putting these tests side by side will allow you to see that something was going on- I have no doubt that both CD and R&T were running a bunch of toyota advertising back then- possibly INVISIBLE- (But expensive) advertising......
I think the C8 is definitely helping to renew focus on the Fiero, but I think it is also critical for people drive and showcase their fieros (stock and modified) at national events.
If they were perceived as desirable by the general public, demand would be a lot higher at these prices. Many cars' prices bottom out at about 20 years old. The Fiero hasn't risen much in the last 15 years. Don't you think that the 1984 Mustang is worth more as a percentage of purchase price than the 1984 Fiero?
jon
------------------ Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
If they were perceived as desirable by the general public, demand would be a lot higher at these prices. Many cars' prices bottom out at about 20 years old. The Fiero hasn't risen much in the last 15 years. Don't you think that the 1984 Mustang is worth more as a percentage of purchase price than the 1984 Fiero?
jon
Supply vs demand then factored by the limited nature of 2 deat cars as generally a third car by many owners when many people can’t afford one new daily driver.
Also look at the values of most cars from 1984 to 1988 and few are work much. To be honest a clean low mike Fiero above average as a percentage of original sticker than most.
Right now the values are now just growing on the late 70’s Trans Ams with the right options.
You have C 5 owners with good clean cars struggling to get 1/4 the original sticker price.
A neighbor sold a early 1990’s Z/28 for $9k with only 17k miles never in rain with all the trick SLP parts and the original factory parts with the car.
Large supplies and low demand on many of these cars are killing values.
So many people used up the muscle cars and saved few. Today people keep cars up and they are not hard to find if you really want one.
Then how come they sell so cheap? Money don't lie.
The same reason that any other low priced, commuter car built many years ago is cheap. They were neither expensive nor particularly exotic or high performing, so why would they become expensive?
