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A Heartfelt Thank You! (My sons first car) - Wrapping a Fiero by Forrest
Started on: 03-18-2020 10:38 AM
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Report this Post03-18-2020 10:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ForrestClick Here to Email ForrestSend a Private Message to ForrestEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
First Post....
I have wanted to post this for a while now but have not taken the time. Thanks to this bug floating around I have plenty of spare time.

My boy worked for nearly 2 years cutting grass and saving as best a kid can to come up with half of the scratch needed to purchase his 1988 Fiero GT in the summer of 2019.
It had a few issues.
Bald/dry rotted tires. Almost no breaks at all. Terrible engine vibration due to only half the cylinders firing, Fluttering popup headlights, rotted out speakers, decaying paint with tons of nicks, scratches, cracks, fading.....loose driver side mirror with a dent in it, leaking sun roof, Windshield washer that just sprayed in the front compartment, cracked dry rotted outer dew wipes, cracked rear sail panels, screaming belts, no AC, leaking vacuum lines, and crazy rough shifting with the RPMs running through the roof then it slamming into gear.

I did my best to talk him out of this car and promised it would be a LOT of hot days in the sun to get her going again but he insisted it was the car for him
It was a scary drive home.....


It is worth noting that he goes to a school where most of the kids parents just buy them a brand new Jeep or Mustang...the unlucky ones just get daddys old Benz. Given this his choice kinda suprised me and it also put me under the gun to help him make it look as nice as possible on a budget....after we got the darn thing running and stopping.

The pictures are slightly out of order because there were so many but I love a visual aid.



I used these forums, the ogers cave, Ronald Finger, and LostNotForgotton's videos to help identify and fix all of these issues. I know Ronald's is a iron duke but the dude gave me hope.
I could not have done this without yalls help.

My son picked TeckWraps High Gloss white vinyl.
1.52m x 15m (59.8" x 590.6", 4.98ft x 49.2ft, 1.66yd x 16.4yd)
at $337 shipped. This was enough to make some mistakes and still have some left over.











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A month of all my spare weekend time later....
Finally Finished....




Thanks again to all the contributors in the fiero community.








This is him at the DMV waiting for his driving test. He insisted on driving his own car. He told me the instructor asked him questions about the car during the entire test.


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Report this Post03-18-2020 11:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cvxjetClick Here to Email cvxjetSend a Private Message to cvxjetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Great story and post....and car! Nice to see a young man taking on a "Project car"....Biggest mistake is to hand your kids everything. Most kids nowadays can't change a flat, let alone do proper maintenance on their car.

As far as new and expensive cars vs older-simple-cheap cars....I personally like the simple older cars that are A) Easy to work on, and B) Durable....I admit to lusting after the forged aluminum A-Arms on the C4 Vette back in the 80s-90s...But came to the realization that simple stamped steel A-arms are more durable and very in-expensive...They offer 80-90% of the performance for 1/10 the cost...

Keep up the good work!
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First Post....


Great post!

Nice to read something positive in the midst of this current world calamity.
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Report this Post03-18-2020 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RexgirlSend a Private Message to RexgirlEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thank You for sharing your wonderful family story!! It reminds me of my Dad and I, and the memories he left me.
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Report this Post03-18-2020 07:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Beautiful car and great story

Thanks for sharing. Great to see the next generation take an interest in these goofy oddball cars that we love!
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This is awesome. Well done!
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Report this Post03-19-2020 11:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaClick Here to Email Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Great job on the wrap. Looks like a late model car. The only reservation that I would have about owning a 30+ yr old car as a first daily driver vehicle would be that it will need TLC and probably a higher level of maintenance than with a newer vehicle.

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Perfect, and welcome.
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The car looks great! How long did the wrapping take? i assume that you fixed the mechanical problems?
thanks for the post
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Originally posted by longjonsilver:

The car looks great! How long did the wrapping take? i assume that you fixed the mechanical problems?
thanks for the post
jon



Yeah we got most all of it sorted out. I have a new compressor ready to go in for the A/C just waiting on the new pressure sensors.
I recently installed keyless entry for him but will need a 12v relay to make the trunk pop work.
Guess Ill be wiring up a new stereo soon as well cuz yesterday the tailight fuse popped which caused the radio to malfunction and the headlights to not go down.
Replacing the fuse sorted the lights but the radio has no sound now and lights up all weird (All possible things lit up) when I turn on the headlights.

The wrap took about a month of my spare time on weekends. For someone that knows what they are doing it would take less time, but I was learning as I went and mistakes waste time.
You could cut that time in half with a good helper.
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Report this Post04-29-2020 04:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for copperhensClick Here to Email copperhensSend a Private Message to copperhensEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My first car was a Fiero. That was only a few years ago, I still have that Fiero and have since gotten two others. When I first bought my Fiero, I knew nothing about working on cars(didn’t even know how to change a tire), but had liked it for the headlights. I’ve since moved on to rebuilding an engine and know much more than I used to. No one at my high school knew what it was, and even driving the Fieros around now people always turn their heads. Your son picked the right car!
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I would like to know more about your wrapping process. Where did you obtain your supplies? How did you learn about wrapping? How do you go about cutting and fitting the pieces? Costs vs paint?

I think wrapping is a good idea for a daily or track car. Lots of options, and maybe more cost effective/easier to repair when needed?
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Originally posted by da.slyboy:

I would like to know more about your wrapping process. Where did you obtain your supplies? How did you learn about wrapping? How do you go about cutting and fitting the pieces? Costs vs paint?

I think wrapping is a good idea for a daily or track car. Lots of options, and maybe more cost effective/easier to repair when needed?


My son picked TeckWraps High Gloss white vinyl.
1.52m x 15m (59.8" x 590.6", 4.98ft x 49.2ft, 1.66yd x 16.4yd)
https://teckwrap.com/
at $337 shipped. This was enough to make some mistakes and still have some left over.

I bought this kit from amazon...it had everything I needed
https://amzn.to/3fk8Moz
and this knifless tape
https://amzn.to/2L0cNQS
You will also need a heat gun or hair dryer....heat gun is better.

How to wrap....out of all the folks I watched on youtube I learned the most from Christian, aka ck wraps
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrSpyderGT
Using knifeless tape
How to do corners
When to use overlays vs stretching
How to avoid peelback
are key in being successful.

This was my first project wrapping.
Like any paint job I had to work my way around the car...slap some bondo in/sand rough spots. Blemishes will show through the wrap just like paint.
I just took it one panel at a time. The relativly flat design helped a ton and made the job less intimidating.
The front and rear bumpers were a challenge but I got through it with some prayer ;-)

Repair is as easy as putting it on in the first place. Heat up and peel off the old stuff...stick a new piece.
It is very tedious work. Paint is quicker for sure but I was quoted $1500 to paint the car. With this total cost was around $360 tools and all....and I could do it in my garage. He got a couple nicks in it while removing the old rear glass in favor of new ones so we just pulled that piece and slapped on a new one.

After tires, brakes, ignition system, etc etc that went into the car to get her running again...I was looking to save a few bucks if I could.

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Awesome! Turned out really good.

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Report this Post05-09-2020 10:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for QuadfatherClick Here to Email QuadfatherSend a Private Message to QuadfatherEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for posting the details about how you did the wrap. My DIY Rust-oleum paint job hasn’t met with my expectations, so your experience gives me hope that a wrap might be a good way to salvage it.
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