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Abandoned Fiero at Silent Auction by Wisconsiknight
Started on: 10-18-2018 03:06 PM
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Report this Post10-18-2018 03:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsiknightClick Here to Email WisconsiknightSend a Private Message to WisconsiknightEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey all, I need some advice from you Fiero experts.
Theres an 87 SE at an abandoned vehicle auction near me. Its got the 5 speed and the VIN says its a V6. 60k miles on the odometer.

Interior looks to be in good shape, but the cover on the underside of the steering column was removed and some of the wires were fiddled with. There are also two batteries sitting in the passenger side which leads me to guess it has electrical issues.

I could probably purchase it for $500 or less, but I don't know enough about Fieros specifically to have a good sense of the risk. It could be a complete basket case or it could be ready to turn the key and go. Since its abandoned there is no key and I cant really do any kind of detailed inspection.

Worst case scenario, it has a blown motor/trans...how much are these worth? I'd like to get it and get it driveable but theres no telling whats wrong with it and I'm not sure how much money its worth risking for. Any advice is appreciated!
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Worst case scenario...


...is a rotted frame. As we warn everybody, check the rear upper frame rails for rust. Plenty of threads/info on this.

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Report this Post10-18-2018 03:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsiknightClick Here to Email WisconsiknightSend a Private Message to WisconsiknightEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have read that, but in this scenario I can't open the trunk to check. What percentage of them suffer from this? Is it something like a 50/50 shot that the frame is bad or worse?
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What percentage of them suffer from this? Is it something like a 50/50 shot that the frame is bad or worse?


Arizona car - .01% chance of rust

Upstate NY car - MUCH MUCH MUCH greater than .01% chance of rust.
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Report this Post10-18-2018 04:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for USMUCLSend a Private Message to USMUCLEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
87 SE V6 5-speeds seem to be rare these days. If it is not rusted, it's a good find.
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Report this Post10-18-2018 04:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Do you own any other Fiero's? Rust was already mentioned but you could turn it into a parts car if it indeed had rust. New York car, chance are it does have rust for sure.
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Report this Post10-18-2018 05:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsiknightClick Here to Email WisconsiknightSend a Private Message to WisconsiknightEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The auction is for vehicles that were abandoned on a military base, so the car probably did not spend its entire life up here but who knows. I tried to get underneath it but they're so low I couldn't see much. It did look semi-rusty but not rotted. The parts of the frame I could see and feel were not rusted through but did have rust on the surface (which I thought was strange because arent the frames galvanized steel?).
To answer the other question, I am curently Fiero-less. Jist on the hunt for a fun project car when I stumbled accross this one. It seems like the trans has some value on its own, so even if it turns out to be a rust bucket I could possibly sell the trans, scrap the rest and break even, no?
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...so even if it turns out to be a rust bucket I could possibly sell the trans, scrap the rest and break even, no?


Sure, parts cars have some value. It just depends on what your time is worth to you. Not everybody is willing to spend hours/days tearing a car down for maybe a few hundred dollars.
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Report this Post10-18-2018 06:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnWPBClick Here to visit JohnWPB's HomePageSend a Private Message to JohnWPBEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Worst case scenario, as stated, is that the frame is rusted bad.

EVEN IF this is the case, if the interior is in good shape as you said, you can make your $500 back pretty easily. Just the 87 headlight motors and wiring harness alone can easily fetch $200 (20 minute job, and fairly easy to remove) or more if it is beyond repair. More work for sure, but the 60,000 mile engine and transmission alone could easily fetch $500. If you do not want to do the work yourself, post the car here in the mall, or on craig's list for $450 for a parts car, and I am pretty sure you could get that back out of it.

The bottom line, if you pay $500 for it you will not lost any money.

If you get a chance, post some pictures and video of the car. That can really help us determine value. You can also turn on the LED light and start recording video on your phone. Start recording and pass the phone up behind the rear tires and aim it at the frame rails all around the axle area. Pay close attention to the passenger side, as this is where the battery can assist in rotting a frame rail.

Good luck, and keep us posted!

EDIT TO ADD: Can the car be titled? Are they giving some sort of release paperwork or something? I know Towing companies can apply for a title to a car they impounded after a certain amount of time passes.

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You can check the frame rail by reaching in past the rear wheel. You should be able to determine if there's any appreciable rust on the section you can access behind the wheel well liner. The tray underneath the radiator will usually show early signs of rust. If it's badly rusted, or if there's scaling on the control arms or cradle, chances are you have more severe rust on the frame rails.

If the car has a remote trunk release, remove the cigarette lighter and apply 12 volts to the 2 wires, then hit the trunk release. It's easier than removing the release button to power through it.
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Report this Post10-18-2018 07:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsiknightClick Here to Email WisconsiknightSend a Private Message to WisconsiknightEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
THANK YOU ALL! This is the sort of info I was hoping to find!
I really hope that its in good enough shape to be worth fixing and driving, but if not I'm willing to take the time to part it out.
Ill try the phone tricks yall mentioned and see if I cant get a better idea of the rust situation.
In the mean time I'll put in a bid for $500 and see what happens. I'll be sure and update you all either way!
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Report this Post10-19-2018 01:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LornesGTSend a Private Message to LornesGTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Be careful of all the added fees for some of auctions.
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Report this Post10-19-2018 07:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for andrewwSend a Private Message to andrewwEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If its got decent taillights you're golden. Those would be worth the money you pay for the car.
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Report this Post10-19-2018 08:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
SE tail lights are very plentiful.....
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Report this Post10-20-2018 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsiknightClick Here to Email WisconsiknightSend a Private Message to WisconsiknightEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well...it looks like I was outbid. Much to my surprise, someone was willing to gamble more than $500 so I will not be the new owner of that particular Fiero. I'll keep my eyes open now though. I've kinda got the itch for one
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Report this Post10-23-2018 04:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ReallybigSend a Private Message to ReallybigEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I just seen an 88 formula sell at a police impound auction for $1200!!! No keys, no guarantees. Just before it, a 2005 caddy sold for $600. Crazy!
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