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UNBELIEVABLE experience with West Coast Fiero's by Erwin03
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Report this Post04-25-2018 10:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mptigheSend a Private Message to mptigheEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Erwin, BTW the Eibachs might drop the car more than 1". I've put them on an '88 and now an "85 and they dropped at least 2" each time, but I did have a 3800 in each of the cars so... your results may vary.
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Originally posted by Iain:
Erwin you have pm, I have parts to convert to rear coilovers you can have for the postage.
Iain

Pm replied, thank you so much!

 
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Erwin, BTW the Eibachs might drop the car more than 1". I've put them on an '88 and now an "85 and they dropped at least 2" each time, but I did have a 3800 in each of the cars so... your results may vary.

A friend of mine has these springs on his GT Fastback.
They do look ok on his however I removed a lot of weight and on my car and my ground clearance has increased by 0.7 inc.
The Eibachs would bring it back around stock and that just wont do.
My car rides with 17 inch wheels and that is why I measured what an ideal height would be. (Front needs1.5 inch and rear needs 2.5)
I am a designer so Astetics are important to me 😉
Iain’s help would go a long way! Then cut the front springs.

Thank you guys for helping and thinking with me.

This is the car (even before the manual conversion it was to high)

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I did have a phone call with my lawyer and he stated that if my adress and email were send unrelated to the site the information was published, there is a possibility to start a lawsuit.
The only thing we need to figure out is hwo that works since I am in the Netherlands.
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That's a nice looking Fiero.
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My car with the Eibachs...



By the way, West Coast Fieros has a FB page where you can rate them as a business.. Might want to let others know about what you experienced.

https://www.facebook.com/westcoastfiero/

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Depositing a rating for WCF is tempting, but not tempting enough to be assimilated by the Evil Empire known as Facebook. Not in my opinion, anyway.
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Originally posted by mptighe:
By the way, West Coast Fieros has a FB page where you can rate them as a business.. Might want to let others know about what you experienced.
https://www.facebook.com/westcoastfiero/


I have seen them on FB but before rating it is my intention to see what I can do within the law.
I have a good laywer.

That is a nice car, but i don’t have a 3800 in mine so I need it a bit lower.
I measured exactly how much I want of the car and 1.5 inch is for me the magic drop


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16 euros, 3+ days delivery.

EU law is quite clear Erwin, nothing you can do against WCF as the US is outside EU jurisdiction. Since the host/server is in Europe Cliff is obliged to remove the post or thread if you ask him. Tread carefully involving lawyers, as EU law holds Cliff/Pennocks liable just for hosting the thread.

Roll on Brexit..
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Originally posted by Iain:
EU law is quite clear Erwin, nothing you can do against WCF as the US is outside EU jurisdiction. Since the host/server is in Europe Cliff is obliged to remove the post or thread if you ask him. Tread carefully involving lawyers, as EU law holds Cliff/Pennocks liable just for hosting the thread.

Roll on Brexit..


If Cliff is able to remove my personal details that would be apreciated..
International law regarding personal details is universal and in this case broken by WCF so Ill let my lawyer look into this.
Ofcourse if this forum would be hurt in anyway ill stop it but I feel horrible about what they do!
The way they treat customers and would be customers should not be tolerated.
I hope at least they will be fined
Can you imagine what would have happened if I did gave them our creditcard details?!

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Dam!! I was just looking at their Fiero offerings.. I definitely heard about how long it takes to get stuff from them. Glad I didn’t put in my order for sure. That royally sucks big time.
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Originally posted by Erwin03:


If Cliff is able to remove my personal details that would be apreciated..
International law regarding personal details is universal and in this case broken by WCF so Ill let my lawyer look into this.
Ofcourse if this forum would be hurt in anyway ill stop it but I feel horrible about what they do!
The way they treat customers and would be customers should not be tolerated.
I hope at least they will be fined
Can you imagine what would have happened if I did gave them our creditcard details?!


Check FastRed's post. It appearts that your details have at least been edited out. Not sure about some of the verbiage, though. Some of it is kind of incomprehensible.
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Originally posted by Fast Red:

Erwin03 to you and the forum I apologize My beaver it was uncalled for again I apologize. This whole thing was over twenty dollars I"m in barest. I let my emotions get the best of me. To Erwin03 I can't make up the mistake I made. If you want we will send you the rear spring kit free of charge for a small repayment to you.



Both for keeping the record and to say I'm glad you apologized. That's more than many on this forum throughout the years.
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Originally posted by Raydar: Check FastRed's post. It appearts that your details have at least been edited out. Not sure about some of the verbiage, though. Some of it is kind of incomprehensible.

Looks like his speech-to-text app was drunk.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Looks like his speech-to-text app was drunk.



Yeah gonna have to teach that beaver to behave...
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well an apology is always nice to recieve, I am going to take him up on the offer of the springs.

Curioius if they will follow trough with them.
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I lost several ignition paks when living in so cal due to heat, but after locating to cooler NW I removed the fan with no problems. Keep using the thermal grease on the heat sink plate.

Springs, I also cut the fronts with great results (GT) and the rears just enough for slight looseness at droop. I saved the front cut off and can give the count if it helps. On other cars I have heated the top dull red in order to re-form them, but would not do that to any active portion of spring as even a quench would probably not restore the original tensile strength and just letting a spring cool is" annealing" which is softening , destroying the "spring" quality.
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Originally posted by hobbywrench:

I lost several ignition paks when living in so cal due to heat, but after locating to cooler NW I removed the fan with no problems. Keep using the thermal grease on the heat sink plate.

Springs, I also cut the fronts with great results (GT) and the rears just enough for slight looseness at droop. I saved the front cut off and can give the count if it helps. On other cars I have heated the top dull red in order to re-form them, but would not do that to any active portion of spring as even a quench would probably not restore the original tensile strength and just letting a spring cool is" annealing" which is softening , destroying the "spring" quality.


I live in the Netherlands, I doubt I will have any issue with this.

Still no reply from WCF regarding their offer of springs.
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When I originally started on my Fiero i bought some stuff from WCF. They charged me for the stuff and then used my card to make another trip to my account. They stole several thousand dollars but I caught it in time and the bank charged it back. They said it is not unusual for them to do this--without permission because the customer will be buying more in the future so they just made another draw. WCF is known to be crooked as a dogs hind leg. I wanted to bring them up on federal charges of wire fraud but CHASE wasn't interested in working with me on it. I returned most of the stuff I bought from them and thankfully got my money back. WCF is a BAD business and if you buy something from them be aware they are NOT above double dipping or worse.
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When I originally started on my Fiero i bought some stuff from WCF. They charged me for the stuff and then used my card to make another trip to my account. They stole several thousand dollars but I caught it in time and the bank charged it back. They said it is not unusual for them to do this--without permission because the customer will be buying more in the future so they just made another draw. WCF is known to be crooked as a dogs hind leg. I wanted to bring them up on federal charges of wire fraud but CHASE wasn't interested in working with me on it. I returned most of the stuff I bought from them and thankfully got my money back. WCF is a BAD business and if you buy something from them be aware they are NOT above double dipping or worse.


WTF?!?! Seriously? That's a federal law that was broken, and a felony at that. Chase didn't want to prosecute credit card fraud? Yeah, I already had no intention of ever spending another dime with them, this just made it written in stone.
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My thinking was Chase got the money (or shall we say intercepted) the second transaction and deducted it from their deposits. I don't know quite how it works. I think it would cost CHASE money and in the end they had recovered all (my) money. They probably didn't want to spend what it would cost to prosecute.

I can't believe they are still in business and that people take their cars there. I think they would just suck every dime they could and they would have your car. I was never so glad to be away from that situation.

In the end I guess I am not surprised to hear other stories.
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