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1984 V6??? by GADJet
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Report this Post01-30-2018 12:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GADJetSend a Private Message to GADJetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am looking at what the seller says is a 1984 V6 Fiero... Is there such a thing? It does have a 2.8 in it, but he swears its a 1984.... Just checking. Thanks.
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I also asked if it was swapped but he says he thinks its factory. I am confused. Thats why I am asking the PROS! Thanks guys.
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Report this Post01-30-2018 01:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Perhaps built in 1984, but an1985 model. The VIN will tell you.
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The 1984 model ran from July of 83 to the end of 1984 equipped with a 2.5L for the Coupe, Sports Coupe and SE. The 140 hp 2.8L V6 was available in the 1985 GT trim model which arrived in Showrooms in January of 1985. This information is common knowledge so barring any anomalies that I am unaware of, it sounds like the car in question has had a motor swap or there is some confusion as to the production date. Check the vin and confirm.

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Report this Post01-30-2018 03:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for edfieroClick Here to Email edfieroSend a Private Message to edfieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
its surprising the number of people that don't know what year car they own.
My vote is that the car is an 85.
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Report this Post01-30-2018 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Get the VIN on a piece of paper and go here!

http://www.nytmare.org/fiero/vin/fierovin.htm
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Originally posted by VanGTP5000:
The 140 hp 2.8L V6 was available in the 1985 GT trim model which arrived in Showrooms in January of 1985.


...and the 1985 SE could be had with a V6.
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Report this Post01-30-2018 09:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robert1234Click Here to Email robert1234Send a Private Message to robert1234Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm confused....the seller can't look up the VIN ?

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Report this Post01-31-2018 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GADJetSend a Private Message to GADJetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by edfiero:

its surprising the number of people that don't know what year car they own.
My vote is that the car is an 85.



Thats exactly what I am thinking. But ill see if I can get the VIN and find out.
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Originally posted by Gall757:

Get the VIN on a piece of paper and go here!

http://www.nytmare.org/fiero/vin/fierovin.htm

OK help me read this because I am confused with the code reading myself. Because the title says 1984 and it has an R code of 9... Which says v6. I am CONFUSED lol.

Here is the code. 1G2AF37R9EP303547
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According to this, it must be a 2.5l original motor with a 2.8l swap. I cant see it being any other way.
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Report this Post01-31-2018 10:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It started out it's life as a 1984 SE, 4 cyl (the 'R' tells us that....the '9' next to it is just a check digit).

edit: It was a late '84. Car # 303,547 out of 336,840 total. Must be a pretty well done swap..

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Can you post pictures of the engine bay?
What transmission?
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Report this Post01-31-2018 11:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've had a few cars with the wrong year on the title.
But most likely someone just swapped it.

I agree with olejoedad
Pics?
What trans?
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Originally posted by 2.5:

I've had a few cars with the wrong year on the title.
But most likely someone just swapped it.

I agree with olejoedad
Pics?
What trans?


Here ya go!

Folder with pics

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Report this Post01-31-2018 12:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for VanGTP5000Click Here to Email VanGTP5000Send a Private Message to VanGTP5000Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Looks like a motor swap. The A/C Heater Climate controller has been swapped out to an 85-88 from it's original 1984 version. I also notice that the car only retains one original 1984 power window switch vs. the driver side which has been replaced.

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Am I wrong I thought the Aero Package other than the Indy didn't come out until the 85 year?
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It has the 85-88 hood / vents, front & rear bumpers
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It also has the cooling tubes for the coil/distributor......
Interesting.

Does the VIN plate match the option tag on the D/S front wheel well?
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Maybe this car is an 85 Fiero that was stolen, then given a clean 84 VIN swap.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

It also has the cooling tubes for the coil/distributor......
Interesting.


I see one cooling tube.... and any output from it would appear to be blocked by a non-factory heat shield. The top of the distributor looks a little odd as well.




I suspect this is a Frankenstein Fiero.
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Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT:It has the 85-88 hood / vents, front & rear bumpers


And lower body & door strips as shown on the 1985 brochure cover...

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Report this Post02-01-2018 12:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Light switch is 85-88.

Need to verify VIN on inner wheel well.
If it is missing, pull the left front speaker out of the dash, there is a VIN on the steering wheel support directly below the speaker opening.
Trans and engine also have partial VIN numbers.
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Report this Post02-01-2018 08:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fairmechanicClick Here to Email fairmechanicSend a Private Message to fairmechanicEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
i also picked up a 1984 v6 fiero. Definitely started out as a 2.5. Someone swapped in a 2.8, also put an aero nose on it, and newer style decklid and vents, and newer rear bumper. So it does happen.
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Some interesting vacuum lines there...
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Interesting plug wire routing, and missing the clips for the wires.

Something doesn't look right with the hose routing by the battery.
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There is a Date of Manufacture stamped on the info tag. This is NOT however reliable to the model year if its in the fall, during model changeover. It could be manufactured in say Sept but be the next model year car. The VIN however will lead you to exactly what year it is. Check several of the VIN ID points though, just the dash one can be changed if its stolen. They cant change them all. I may be wrong, but especially back then didnt the original engine have a matching number ? If thats the case, the engine number matching the VIN number will prove that engine came in that car.

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