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Trouble getting to the forum. Anyone else? by Raydar
Started on: 03-19-2016 09:51 AM
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Seemed to start yesterday, sometime.

Page timeouts and "not responding".
Pings and tracert seem to work okay.
Cleared DNS resolver cache with no change.

Other websites seem to work okay.

Anyone else having issues?

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I've always found PFF to be slow, compared to other sites. I often have to reload pages. I am getting timeouts. I tried through 2 ISPs on different devices.

It's sortof hit and miss.

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yup. verrrrry slowwwww.
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Same here and about the same time.

I have to keep closing it out and going back a little later.
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I got in it a while ago, and while reading through posts the forum stopped. I left the forum and tried to go back in but it wouldn't load. Restarted the computer and made three more tries to get in before I gave up. I just tried now and got right in.
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Issue seems to come and go quite frequently.

Seems alright right now.
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I was having the same issue last night.
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Apparently, there are database rebuilds in progress,
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Operates fine for me. The speed is good and it doesn't even log me out after a period of inactivity. If this were a car I would be willing to pay a little over Blue Book. It's a good site.
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I've always found PFF to be slow...


Always?

Then there's something else going on with your configuration/connection/internet service, as PFF normally opens up very quickly for me every time it's accessed.

Having said that... I've been experiencing problems with PFF the last couple of days as well, but this is highly unusual.
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PFF normally works, for me, about as well as any web page. And much better than some.
These past couple of days have been... different. Happened again just a few minutes ago.
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Sadly, PFF has been under a DDoS attack since yesterday...
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

Sadly, PFF has been under a DDoS attack since yesterday...


Hey everybody! We must be more important than we thought!!
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Sadly, PFF has been under a DDoS attack since yesterday...


Lame.
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Sadly, PFF has been under a DDoS attack since yesterday...


No idea what they hope to gain.
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No idea what they hope to gain.


Me neither...
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Always?

Then there's something else going on with your configuration/connection/internet service, as PFF normally opens up very quickly for me every time it's accessed.


Not necessarily. Techno-babble. Blah, blah.

If you test the download speed for a page on PFF, how many milliseconds does it take to load that page? Compare that to your Google Business email account.

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got that...Patrick?
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Sadly, PFF has been under a DDoS attack since yesterday...


Greaaaaat. Sorry about that.
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Okay......

Being I'm a low tech man in a high tech world, what's a "DDoS"?
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Okay......

Being I'm a low tech man in a high tech world, what's a "DDoS"?


Distributed Denial-Of-Service: Form of electronic attack involving multiple computers, which send repeated HTTP requests or pings to a server to load it down and render it inaccessible for a period of time. Often used by freedom fighters on the Internet, usually attacking the systems of greedy corporations who want to sacrifice YOUR freedom for their profits.


Ha Ha!

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Distributed Denial-Of-Service: Form of electronic attack involving multiple computers, which send repeated HTTP requests or pings to a server to load it down and render it inaccessible for a period of time. Often used by freedom fighters on the Internet, usually attacking the systems of greedy corporations who want to sacrifice YOUR freedom for their profits.

Ha Ha!



Actually, it doesn't have to be HTTP or ICMP packets; it could be any open TCP port. There are many ways to deal with this. The problem is, for every method of prevention Cliff takes, there is a countering move that can be taken, unless the attacker(s) are ended.
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Ha Ha!



I couldn't agree more.

LMFAO!
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Has anybody been kicked out of O/T recently?
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got that...Patrick?


Ummm... no.

I guess ignorance is bliss though, as my access to PFF is immediate 99.99% of the time.
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Has anybody been kicked out of O/T recently?


Kicked out? Was there a boot that came through your screen? Or did it show something about database maintenance?
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Ummm... no.

I guess ignorance is bliss though, as my access to PFF is immediate 99.99% of the time.


Sorry, Patrick. I wasn't sure where your abilities were, but I thought I broke it down.
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Sorry, Patrick. I wasn't sure where your abilities were, but I thought I broke it down.


I know a little about a lot of things. I'm definitely no internet expert. All I was implying is that I don't know how PFF can be criticized for being "slow" to load when there are obviously some of us who generally speaking never have a problem with it.

 
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If you test the download speed for a page on PFF, how many milliseconds does it take to load that page?


If I've got to compare "milliseconds", then I don't see any real problem. The only time I've seen an issue with a thread opening is when a whole lot of YouTube videos are embedded in posts (usually occurs in O/T). Then yes, it can take quite awhile for the thread/page to completely load. But I don't know if that's a PFF or a YouTube issue.

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I doubt there is a 200Mb connection for the PFF servers--but I could be wrong. The only way for me to test wouldn't make Cliff happy, because of the load, and wouldn't be accurate, anyway. I could only say ”at least” xMb.

The page load speed tests always return milliseconds. Well, mine do, anyway. My point was that PFF is noticeably slower than other sites. Yes, some pages take a while to load, but it's easy to strip out the images. I think there's a text-only version of PFF, but not sure where it is.

”Immediately” is subjective. Milliseconds is objective.

I just had an evil thought concerning the DDoS people. Oh Cliff, do you know about reflected TCP traffic? Source-routed packets? Packet editing? I'm sure you have packet floods blocked, but you'll need to set up port mirroring and have some fun.
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The DDos attack is still going on but I've at least been able to make sure (for now) it doesn't bring the server down.
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Can't you figure out who the asshat jackoff jerkwad perpetrator is then have him arrested? They do it on CSI:Cyber in 43 minutes....EVERY time.
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Can't you figure out who the asshat jackoff jerkwad perpetrator is then have him arrested? They do it on CSI:Cyber in 43 minutes....EVERY time.


Hahahaha I wish
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Can't you figure out who the asshat jackoff jerkwad perpetrator is then have him arrested? They do it on CSI:Cyber in 43 minutes....EVERY time.


It doesn't work that way, in real life. Maybe 5 or so years ago, there were complaints about spam and the lack of effort by the authorities to stop it. They said they were working hard to stop it, but if we thought we could do better, to go ahead. That was in December. Within 2 months, 2 spammers were caught and arrested, due to the efforts of private individuals.

These 2 individuals were proud of what they'd done. It was ”fun” because they were ”bored”. Despite their guilt, they were let go and given monetary compensation for their brief incarceration. The excuse was that these 2 people were underprivileged. They used a different word, but that was the gist. These individuals paid for an ivy-league education out of their pocket money. The authorities have no current interest in stopping cyber-crime.

If your car is stolen, they don't take fingerprints or make any effort to catch the thief. In today's political climate, you're more likely to be arrested for reporting the theft.
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If your car is stolen, they don't take fingerprints or make any effort to catch the thief. In today's political climate, you're more likely to be arrested for reporting the theft.


Where do you live?
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If your car is stolen, they don't take fingerprints or make any effort to catch the thief.
In today's political climate, you're more likely to be arrested for reporting the theft.


I can see that. After all, Police would look at the owner as their first suspect! (for insurance fraud)

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Police dont care about much crime, thats why theres so much of it. I had a trailer stolen once at midnite. They drug it off not being able to hitch it and no lights. Cops said they had 5 departments looking for it and didnt find any sign of it. From sparks and noise, they should would have seen or heard it for blocks. 2 days later, I myself found the ramps and other parts laying in the middle of a 4 lane street less than 1/2 mile away. Cars were swerving to avoid them. If they were looking, they must have been blindfolded...they were in plain view and if they run over them, theyd have torn up their cruiser.

On topic, I did notice yesterday morning I couldnt get in. Message said page could not be reached and timed out.
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Police dont care about much crime, thats why theres so much of it. .


It makes you wonder WTF they think their job is...

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It makes you wonder WTF they think their job is...



It gets back to priorities. Want more police coverage? Want more room in the prison? Then support those efforts when it comes up for a vote. Now that may mean your taxes will go up.

I lived in an area where my neighbor would complain about crime (well, encroachment from another city), but said he would never support a tax hike to hire more township officers. So... what do you do at that point? You have limited staff to cover a very large area and if crime increases, they will not be able to handle all the calls.

Where I live now, police coverage is good and crime is managed.
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