I finally got my gas tank removed to replace the fuel pump and I found an insane amount of rust in the gas tank. I mean it literally looked like I emptied the fryer at a fast food resturaunt. The "gas" if that's what you could call it, was almost black, and there was so much sludge and rust in the tank, I don't know what to do.
My question is two fold.
One: Is there a way to clean the tank good enough so that I can still use it?
Two If not, is there an aftermarket tank that is better than the original, and if not, would I be better off trying to get one from a junk yard or something to replace mine?
I didn't get any pictures inside the tank, but here are a couple of pictures of the fuel pump assembly
I replaced the fuel sending unit when I replaced the pump 3 years ago. I replaced them both, but then didn't do anything with the car, so they've been sitting since. I believe I used a guide from this website to replace it
Also, I didn't plan on just letting it sit, but money, moving to a new house, having another kid, and everything else had priority over the fiero. I'm at a point now where I can work on it again, so I want to finally get it on the road. I've had it a little over three years I think, but it hasn't run since about 1998 according to the previous owner.
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There are cleaners you can pour in the tank, let it set, slosh it around and drain. Then its best to also apply the coatings you can buy. You pour it in and turn the tank around in all directions to coat the entire interior and after it cures, your good.
yes, I despise ethanol in my gas. I have a gas station right down from me that sells ethanol free gas, which is what I use in all of my outdoor equipment, from my tractor to my chainsaw, but I never used it in my vehicles because I go through it so quick it never sits in the tank. If I had known the fiero was going to sit so long, I would have used ethanol free.
Ok, so here's what I'm thinking. I've washed out the tank with water to get all of the lose rust and other gunk out of it. Now here's what I'm planning....
I think I'm going to fill it back up with water and muriatic acid to dissolve all the rest of the rust in the tank, then flush it out really good with water, then pour about a gallon of acetone in there to try and displace the remaining water, then empty that and let it dry out. Then order some if that tank coating and coat the inside of the tank.
Depends how bad the rust is. I would look for a replacement tank. Some people have luck with sealed tanks some don't, there are a few types of sealers.
Use a shop Vac! I put the hose in the exhaust port on my vacume, and then placed the other end in the tank, with a sock over it as a secondary filter. The air is warm, and very low humidity coming out of the exhaust. I let it run like this for a half hour, and not a drop to be seen anywhere afterwords with my endoscope.
that damage is not a new problem. Store a car w/ low fuel will pull wet air just from weather heating/cooling even before E10 push by Obama via EPA rules.
Pump says have up to 10% but could be much less. If you have 1 gallon (128fl oz) then 12.8 fl oz Max could be Ethanol.
Ethanol need 98+% dry to stay in solution w/ gas. Water will pull Ethanol out of gas and sink to bottom as water/Ethanol mix.
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Originally posted by 2703adam: Ok, so here's what I'm thinking. I've washed out the tank with water to get all of the lose rust and other gunk out of it. Now here's what I'm planning....
I think I'm going to fill it back up with water and muriatic acid to dissolve all the rest of the rust in the tank, then flush it out really good with water, then pour about a gallon of acetone in there to try and displace the remaining water, then empty that and let it dry out. Then order some if that tank coating and coat the inside of the tank. Does this sounds like a good plan?
No. Fiero Tanks have plastic baffles that can damage this way.
Dry out water w/ just enough heat to boil it out. Heat only at the small front end so heat doesn't damage the baffle.
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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT: Welcome to the world of Ethanol I strongly suggest you either use this > http://pure-gas.org/
Problems are: Gas stations often lie Gas stations often have no clue what in their tanks.
EPA and State control what gas mix(s) are available and Stations have No Say what fuel they pump.
Again, Pump says have up to 10% but could be much less. Depends how EPA and states say exactly what mix fuel "fixes" local air quality.
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
Take the tank to a radiator shop. My tank looked like yours and it's like brand new now. I've never seen a shop that hasn't had the ability to clean them out inside till they are like new. I gave my shop the goop to coat the inside too and they did an excellent job of basically giving me back a brand new gas tank. I think I paid about $75 dollars for it all 2 years ago or so and it took a couple days. With the coated inside I don't expect this tank to ever have another issue for the life of the car.