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Need Opinions please !!! by robert1234
Started on: 11-15-2015 08:31 PM
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Report this Post11-15-2015 08:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robert1234Click Here to Email robert1234Send a Private Message to robert1234Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I bought an 88 formula. It had an exhaust leak on the front manifold, not too bad, so I thought no big deal.
I got my extra manifolds in this week and I decided to change my manifold gaskets and take care of the leak.
I did the easy one first today, then stuck my hand back to the front one and AAAAAAAHHHHHH ! Someone has broken two of the bolts on the same mount, that's why it has a leak.

So, what to do now......do I really have to pull the engine to repair this?

Ideas ?

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Report this Post11-15-2015 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Thunderstruck GTSend a Private Message to Thunderstruck GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
They make/made a kit to drill out the broken bolts.

Hunt one down and fix it right. If you don't, it will leak.
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Originally posted by robert1234:

So, what to do now......do I really have to pull the engine to repair this?


Now we'll see just how devoted you are to your Fiero.

I had the same problem with my '86 GT. I ended up pivoting the cradle down at the back so as to give me more room between the engine and the firewall to get at the broken manifold bolts. I won't pretend it wasn't a helluva job... it was a complete b!tch. Having an A/C compressor in the way makes the job even worse, which of course I have on that GT.

 
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KENT MOORE J-38782 FIERO 2.8L EXHAUST EXTRACTOR KIT. It bolts to the head and guides the drill bits so that the broken studs can be drilled out straight. I snagged one on eBay a few months ago because I knew I'd need it. Here's a couple of images I picked up from the 'net.





* Make sure any used kit you buy online has at least the plate and the drill bit "bushing". I notice a lot of the kits listed on eBay are incomplete.



You'll also need some good quality drill bits and either a close quarter drill... or a right angle drill attachment.




Your other option is to remove the head before dealing with the broken bolts.

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Your in for a real treat that you'll never forget!! Perhaps someone in the audience can offer up a prayer.

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Your in for a real treat that you'll never forget!! Perhaps someone in the audience can offer up a prayer.

Spoon




LOL!

That's funny right there I don't care who you are.
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Report this Post11-15-2015 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robert1234Click Here to Email robert1234Send a Private Message to robert1234Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Prayer ! I think I'll cut the firewall out instead...LOL
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Don't forget to port your manifolds while they are off, good for 8HP.
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Report this Post11-16-2015 12:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Since it's an 88 you have an option for some extra work clearance. Unbolt the dog bone and the top of the strut towers, then jack the car up and unbolt the rear cradle bolts and the cradle will pivot down on the front mounting bolts. There's enough play in the wiring and hoses to lower it quite a bit to get a lot more room to work. Watch for wires and hoses to make sure they don't snag on anything and make sure nothing hits the trunk wall (it shouldn't, but it could be close).

You'll obviously have to support the car in front of the forward cradle mounting bolts. That's very close to the center of gravity of the car, so be careful.
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I pulled the heads. As for breaking off... they do that and doesn't mean the previous owner did it. Just a poor design.
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Originally posted by Formula88:

Since it's an 88 you have an option for some extra work clearance...


Not quite sure what significance the year is as I earlier mentioned I did the same as you've outlined with my '86 GT.
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Report this Post11-16-2015 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for robert1234Click Here to Email robert1234Send a Private Message to robert1234Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Everyone...good information !
Greatly appreciate it !!!
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Report this Post11-16-2015 06:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
DONT replace the studs with OEM...get better, stronger ones.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

DONT replace the studs with OEM...get better, stronger ones.


Yes.... er, uh No.... Um, what he ^ ^ ^ said.

Contact ARP and see what they can offer you.
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