In terms of the supercar middle finger comment ill say one thing... i own and race a STOCK s2000 because its "faster" than my fiero is... the s2000 takes a backseat to the ferrari and lambos hands down so.... until you start road racing you cant see what the advantages of the fancy supercars are.
As far as my car goes. Thaks everyone for the support! I started down the 3800 path 10 years ago at the age of 18 with no experience or knowledge on cars except for what i have been able to absorb from juatimbart and a few friends here in town. Its come from at that time dreaming of owning a 14 second car to now racing and deiving a 9 second car to work and back... i owe alot to the people here that started the 3800 swapidea and helped me along the way.
Do we get to know what turbo you have yet? Couple of people have asked in 1/4 mile thread.
Congrats again, I know it's been a long battle. You doing it motivated me to order a replacement intercooler, and looking at heading to the track sept 11/12. Didn't realize at the time but the small leak I'd had since freezing it up a few years ago, had turned into a big leak. Was causing misfires, not cooling properly, and on my last track pass it actually stalled the car when I launched. Hopefully with a fully working intercooler I can finally crack that 9 second barrier and give you some company.
------------------ 10.132 @ 131.69MPH - 1.42 60' Billet 6262 Precision turbo, PT1001 intercooler, ST1 cam, 140lb springs, comp pushrods, HV3, stock L32 bottom end and heads.
Question 1, Did you need to do anything with your headlight doors ? I've heard some say they start popping up over 100 mph.
Question 2, Obviously your setup works great, - no doubt about that. Was wondering why single exhaust ? With plumbing with the turbo, maybe duals wouldn't fit.
Do we get to know what turbo you have yet? Couple of people have asked in 1/4 mile thread.
Congrats again, I know it's been a long battle. You doing it motivated me to order a replacement intercooler, and looking at heading to the track sept 11/12. Didn't realize at the time but the small leak I'd had since freezing it up a few years ago, had turned into a big leak. Was causing misfires, not cooling properly, and on my last track pass it actually stalled the car when I launched. Hopefully with a fully working intercooler I can finally crack that 9 second barrier and give you some company.
Im sorry i am vague about the turbo... Its a custom built GT37 turbo.... T4 .83 exhaust housing with a GT37 wheel (unknown specs, i think its the 76mm wheel version). The compressor side is a fully machined GT37 cover with a GTX4294 compressor wheel. I am still working on dialing the compressor cover in for the 100mm exducer found on the GTX version of this wheel. I have a few more things to do and this turbo will really wake up.
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Question 1, Did you need to do anything with your headlight doors ? I've heard some say they start popping up over 100 mph.
The giant air dam in the front is a huge upgrade. It turns all the air coming over the hood into downforce and very little makes it under the car.
as far as my exhaust goes, There is a single 3 inch dump off the turbo right out the back of the car. It also has 2 goofy rusted WG dumps.
As far as my car goes. Thaks everyone for the support! I started down the 3800 path 10 years ago at the age of 18 with no experience or knowledge on cars except for what i have been able to absorb from juatimbart and a few friends here in town. Its come from at that time dreaming of owning a 14 second car to now racing and deiving a 9 second car to work and back... i owe alot to the people here that started the 3800 swapidea and helped me along the way.
maybe in 1986, turbo buick bent 6's have been running in the 9's for over 2 decades, in much heavier cars I might add..
not knocking Dark or his Fiero.. but no one should be shocked that a turbo buick 6 is in the 9's.. now get it in the 8's..
The difference between a 9 second fiero and an 8 second one is huge. I would guess about 100 times the difference between a 15 second one and a 14 second one. I would be surprised if there is ever an 8 second Fiero unless it is a single purpose car built with way way more invested then dh.
As one f the early detractors of DarkHorizon, I must commend this man on his efforts. Who the faq am I to say anything bad about a guy that has been known to give advice to those in need?
The difference between a 9 second fiero and an 8 second one is huge. I would guess about 100 times the difference between a 15 second one and a 14 second one. I would be surprised if there is ever an 8 second Fiero unless it is a single purpose car built with way way more invested then dh.
With a bit more attention to details (weight and some more turbo), some luck in the transmission... id say this car had some chance of doing 8s. There is arguably .5 seconds available today in an even harder launch that has been well proven in other fieros.
With a bit more attention to details (weight and some more turbo), some luck in the transmission... id say this car had some chance of doing 8s. There is arguably .5 seconds available today in an even harder launch that has been well proven in other fieros.
Well you are a lot more qualified than I am to post a credible opinion. I stand down. Even though 8 seconds sounds huge to me. If anyone can do it, it would be you.
Well you are a lot more qualified than I am to post a credible opinion. I stand down. Even though 8 seconds sounds huge to me. If anyone can do it, it would be you.
It wouldnt be easy but i potentially can try chasing it a bit next year. A big brake upgrade is next on the list which could show big gains at the tree. More horsepower will be availible soon as wellm
I wouldn't try that with any of those big buck genuine super Ferraris either.
I wouldnt hesitate to drive any of my cars 1000 miles... only thing my fiero would need is a bit more exhaust parts and i would probably put a stock front bumper on because i have a few laying around. Its a street car first and a race car second but its a really hunky street car.
The all time fastest 1/4 mile in a turbo 3800 Grand Prix is 8.65. The record is held by Zoomer from ZZ Performance. I believe that his engine is a race only twin turbo engine with massive intercoolers. It took many more hours, far more equipment and quite a bit more money to build than Scotts. Scott, the low budget man, has hit the nines with his home garage creation that probably cost 1/10 of what Zoomer's car cost. Its a remarkable achievement. Scott holds the 3800 Fiero record while Zoomer holds the all time 3800 record. One guy uses all the high technology equipment available to race while the other uses pure creativity, ingenuity and engineering skills to achieve the goal. It would not surprise me if Scott does hit the 8's but if 8.65 is the goal, that is setting the bar high. I cannot say that Scott won't hit it just that he is facing someone who did it with a nearly unlimited budget. Regardless my hat is off to Scott. He's done something that few of use will ever achieve.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Hats off to DH he has done more with less just like the old HotRoders did he is not worried about how pretty it looks but he is laughing as he kicks your ass i bet keep it up DH
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