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Finally bought one. Hello new world by FsburNout216
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So last week after wanting one for about the last 6 years i bought an 88 gt 5 speed. Registered it yesterday and im officially a part of the best club in the world. i just wanted to say hi and introduce myself before i start pestering everyone with little questions here and there. my only question right now is that the tail end feels very loose when i get on the gas. i bought it knowing that the sway bar links were non existant but i thought installing new links would have fixed this. is this just the way fieros are? or do i need to order more suspension parts?

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Could be low tire pressure, bad wheel bearings or most likely bad bushings in the suspension links.

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Welcome!

The 88s are not at all loose anywhere when well maintained, but they are very sensitive to alignments, and getting a good alignment is not as easy as it sounds. Many shops don't know a thing about 4 wheel alignments of mid-engine cars, but it's very easy for them to act like they do.
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Check trans and engine mounts
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What fixed all of mine's loose rear end feeling is a good alignment and new rear struts, I used KYB brand.
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Welcome. You're in a great area of the country to own a Fiero.

All of the suggestions above are good ones. Like any older car, Fieros can be a puzzle. You just need to find the write piece aka "fix". I would start with the simple (tire pressure) and go from there.
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Welcome!! New transmission and motor mounts fixed up my loose rear end.
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Welcome!! New transmission and motor mounts fixed up my loose rear end.


That's what she said!
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Welcome and look forward to hearing about and seeing your car
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Welcome, let's see some pics. If you use Windows, post your images here with PIP.
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sorry all i went out driving. got the a/c working today. i was thinking motor and trans mounts. if not im hoping when i do coilover all the way around that it'll do the trick. havent been on any forums in a dogs age so ill try to get some pics up when i can figure it out. just a pretty simple needing some love black gt. FOR NOW
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well that wasnt so bad thanks for the tip about the pip image poster Patrick
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well that wasnt so bad thanks for the tip about the pip image poster Patrick


You're welcome!
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If it is the same issue that I had when I got my 88 (rear feels like it's swinging out on accel and decel) then this link may help, as it was the same reason for my problem.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...041015-2-052969.html

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Hello fellow NJ Fiero-ist!

Check the bushings first, get some nice poly bushings installed to stiffen the suspension right up! I plan on doing it to mine soon!

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Originally posted by Zerodrag:

If it is the same issue that I had when I got my 88 (rear feels like it's swinging out on accel and decel) then this link may help, as it was the same reason for my problem.

Torque steer after changing rear bushings


After using my '84 duke for four years, the first time I took my '88 Formula to autocross I almost hit the fenceafter making what I thought was a safe high speed change of direction. The rear end let go and the car totally spun out of control. Yep, I discovered that one of those long bolts was loose. Torqued it to spec and have never had a problem since.

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Welcome to the madness. Like everybody else said, proper alignment , tires, shocks and bushings make a difference on an 88. My 88 coupe had a similar problem and I discovered upon close inspection of the rear suspension I found one of the link mounts on the rear cradle was broken due to rust. Good luck with your GT!
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man i was all ready to just ride the car like this a little and buy coilovers as soon as possible but now i got to go get back under the car.. thanks for the idea about the long bolt that sounds like it might be the culprit. ill let you know what happens in a couple hours.
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anyone have any hints to scrub off the old double sided tape on the sails? one was hanging half off so i removed it but need to clean it up to reinstall
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Keep in mind you do not have the original wheels on your car. The 88's had staggered fitment. Smaller on the front than rear. Mid/rear engine cars are really sensitive to correct tire pressures as well.
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had my buddy top off the tire pressure to 35 all around the day i got the car home. should i go more than that? think the tires said max 45. or is it that they just need to be equal.

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FsburNout216, welcome to the brotherhood.

One great thing about the Fiero is that the styling and mechanicals respond very well to upgrades. After you make sure your suspension is tight, I'd recommend 17 inch rims. It updates the look of the car and gets rid of a ton of sidewall flex. Good luck and safe enjoyable miles.

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well... ordering a trailing arm bushing kit. found one bushing that was completely shot. must be what is causing the rear to feel loose. as far as 17s they are definitely in the plan. id like to get the same c5 corvette rims i have on my firebird for the fiero but all in 17 and chrome. but i also want full suspension, big brakes, and a 3800sc. so these rims will do for now. maybe ill go play the lottery.
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That's how these cars go. A project here, another there, then dawns on you, you have $12-20 thousand in your car. ; )
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I'm shooting for 15k. But I only have 8 readily available and would like to buy a small SUV so I have something to drive during motor swap
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If you have $8k on deck you are already ahead of most people.
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Your car will feel better with 30 psi in the tires.
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Make sure all your cradle bolts are tight.
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Trying to stay out from under the car until Wednesday when hopefully my parts arrive.
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Originally posted by FsburNout216:

Trying to stay out from under the car until Wednesday when hopefully my parts arrive.


Where did you order your parts?
Since you are new to Fieros, I'll take a moment to recommend www.rodneydickman.com
Rodney sells all sorts of pieces that will help you to keep your Fiero running and in top form.
He's not the least expensive, but his parts are "top shelf". Bar none.

Welcome to our obsession!

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After upgrading my rear suspension I had the same issue before doing the alignment. Once done it was perfect again.

P.S. welcome fellow New Jersey Fiero fan

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Welcome to the NJ Fiero owners group.
Being a Fiero owner since 1995, I have also found that the car is very sensitive to having a proper alignment. Most tire shops just don't have the skilled personnel to do the job correctly. After you replace the rear suspension parts and tighten everything up, seek out the best alignment shop around.
I also picked up on the fact that you are not using the 88 wheels. The front and rear used different offsets so maybe that has something to do with it. There is an 88 set of wheels on ebay right now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121...665773537%26_rdc%3D1
Consider cruising out to Carlisle for the GM Nationals/MAFOA Fieros at Carlisle event on Saturday June 27th. You can find almost everything Fiero related there including parts and technical advise. Its a great Fiero resource and great fun. The way it now looks about 40 Fieros will be there. Hope to see you there.
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I got a bunch of little things from the Fiero store.. But yes I have heard of Rodney. I think he is currently trying to build the bushings I need in rubber. I went with poly because I'd like to autocross the car when I'm done.
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Hey Dennis did you do your 3800 sc yourself or is there a shop in nj with experience? I plan on doing it myself but it's nice to hand a backup plan

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Originally posted by Shho13:

Hello fellow NJ Fiero-ist!

Check the bushings first, get some nice poly bushings installed to stiffen the suspension right up! I plan on doing it to mine soon!



That worked for me on my 85 GT. Also put on a rear sway bar.
(edit - the sway bar "tightens things up" ,but sorta TOO much. its more stable until it isn't... you have less "warning" on a turn... )

Welcome to the Fiero World!
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poly bushings all the way around got installed on monday. no more wait for it TORQUE STEER. . justkidding i know its not torque steer have just seen it been talked about in other forums this way thought id make a joke since i got nothing else to ask about the car for now. going outside to see if i cant get the paint looking a little better with some wax today. also ordered a roof rack await pictures of my car with 2 kayaks on top
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