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Clutch line connector for F23 & F40 Transmissions by fieroguru
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Report this Post08-08-2014 06:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I had some clutch line connectors made for the F23/F40 transmissions. These have the proper thread and taper to accept the stock Fiero clutch hard line and the other end fits into the bleeder assembly used on the F23 and F40. Unfortunately, I do not have any manual Fieros here that still have the stock Fiero clutch line.

I am looking for 2 people to test these. Ideally the testers will be one person with the F23 and one with the F40. To get the needed info from the test, there are some parameters that the testers must be able to comply with:

• Fiero must have stock Fiero clutch line - I think the stock hardline will have to be bent slightly to extend far enough to the transmission and need a stock setup to verify.
• Fiero cannot have previously installed Thelin's adapter - its flare fitting is wrong, using it severely distorts the taper on the Fiero clutch line and it will leak if installed with my connector.
• The transmission swap must be complete and the car drivable for testing.
• The install/testing must happen within 2 weeks of receiving the connector.
• Must be able to take pictures of the connector installed and emailed to me. I am looking for the routing of the clutch line and any bending of the hard line or mounting tab relocation needed to make the connection. This will vary some depending on transmission elevation and placement side to side.

For your efforts, you get one of these connectors shipped to at no cost and you get to keep it.

So if you have a F23 or F40 swapped Fiero and can comply with the test parameters, please let me know.

Once these are tested/verified, I will start selling them. I have 15 on hands right now and its about 1 month lead time with the machine shop.
Price will be $45 shipped to US and Canada.

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You can put me down for one after the test are conclusive ....
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Report this Post08-08-2014 09:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbClick Here to Email wftbSend a Private Message to wftbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am using the stainless steel replacement line from the fiero store .Presently my fiero slave operates a cavalier master that has been bolted to it .This setup works very well but it would be nice to run direct to the HTOB .You can see my setup in my thread in the construction zone "ecotec swap ". Gladly test this for you if you want me to .
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Report this Post08-15-2014 04:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The O-rings are in... so these are ready to ship to the testers... just need some people who can test this...

If I can't find someone, I will buy a clutch line repair kit and swap out my modified clutch line and brazed fitting for one of the new ones. This will verify they are leak free, but will not verify the stock hard line routing and if there are any tweaks needed.

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if you build me brackets for an f23 mount / shifter, ill test it :P

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Originally posted by hookdonspeed:

if you build me brackets for an f23 mount / shifter, ill test it :P


I already built a F23 shifter bracket and tested it... just never put it into production!

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I already built a F23 shifter bracket and tested it... just never put it into production!


Wait what? The only reason I didn't go with an F23 was because of lack of bolt on modifications..... If you ever want to make and sell that linkage, I'll buy one if I can afford it!

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Originally posted by mitchjl22:


Wait what? The only reason I didn't go with an F23 was because of lack of bolt on modifications (EDIT: and because as you stated, the thlein adapter has the wrong fitting)..... If you ever want to make and sell that linkage, I'll buy one if I can afford it!

-Mitch

Sorry, meant to hit edit, not quote...

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Report this Post08-31-2014 08:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have more than enough other products under development and no F23 on hand, so I will not be making any other parts for the F23 (besides this HTOB connector) for quite some time.

Anyone else out there that could test this HTOB connector?
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Originally posted by mitchjl22:


Wait what? The only reason I didn't go with an F23 was because of lack of bolt on modifications (EDIT: and because as you stated, the thlein adapter has the wrong fitting)..... If you ever want to make and sell that linkage, I'll buy one if I can afford it!

-Mitch

Sorry, meant to hit edit, not quote...



X2 :/ the F40 is a much more expensive swap then the 23.
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Report this Post09-02-2014 11:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm picking my car up on thursday and can test it, I need to install a new clutch/HTOB, and plan to start pretty much as soon as I have the car in hand. it would be an F23 application.

PM me with details.

Edit, just re read the first post, while I could test it, my car will need to be tuned before I can put miles on it to show proof of concept.

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I was unable to find someone to test this part for me, so I have decided to test myself.

The first step was to check it with 120 psi air pressure and it was leak free.


The next step is to cut the clutch line in my car off because it is a 1/4 inverted flare, which is not stock, and is not compatible with this part. Then I will install Rodney's clutch line repair section to restore my clutch line to the OEM connection and install the new clutch line connector.


I am planning to do the clutch line install on Tuesday evening of this week. I would like to drive the car daily for about 3 weeks to confirm its function before I offer these for purchase.
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Report this Post09-23-2014 07:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The new clutch line connector is installed and working like it should. After I bled the clutch hydraulics I took it for a 15 mile cruise through the country and then stopped and idled with the clutch depressed for 5 solid minutes. No leaks or signs of leaking. I will continue to drive the car daily and if everything works like it should for the next 3 week, then they will officially be available for purchase.


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hows it working?
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Still working fine.
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Hello Guru
I lost the part number for the part that your line connector connects to .... the part that inserts into the tranny and your adapter goes into..... thanks for the info...... must be a memory lost on my part grrrr.
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Originally posted by Danyel:

Hello Guru
I lost the part number for the part that your line connector connects to .... the part that inserts into the tranny and your adapter goes into..... thanks for the info...... must be a memory lost on my part grrrr.
Danyel


The bleeder assembly isn't sold individually anywhere except the junk yard. The cheapest method I have found to buy it is: Dorman CM640069 Clutch Master Cylinder
At amazon.com it is $47.11
http://www.amazon.com/Dorma...utch+Master+Cylinder

It will come with everything shown below. Just unclip the bleeder assembly and toss the rest of it.

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sorry i never got back to you about testing but I took the car off the road early this year and i would not have done much of a test .When you get them ready to sell I am going to buy one .
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Report this Post10-17-2014 06:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
These are now available for purchase. I will post a thread in the mall sometime this weekend.
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Cool, I'm in for one. Any idea where I can get the large clip that holds the black adapter to the trans?
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Originally posted by 85sliverGT:
Cool, I'm in for one. Any idea where I can get the large clip that holds the black adapter to the trans?


It comes installed in the slave cylinder, at least on the F40.
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It comes installed in the slave cylinder, at least on the F40.


came with my F23 slave as well.
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Sorry i was referring to the bleeder. This clip:

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Sorry i was referring to the bleeder. This clip:


Yes. The thing the bleeder plugs into is the slave cylinder. That clip comes installed on a new slave cylinder. I don't know where to buy one separate from the slave.
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and don't lose the little silver U shaped clip that comes on the end of the HTOB (it holds the bleeder valve to the HTOB). My F40 arrived at my house without the clip, almost had to buy a whole HTOB just to get that damn clip. (im sure there's a source for them, but I could not find one).

Rob

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The F23 and F40 bleeder valve are the same, therefore I can buy the F23 master cylinder and pull the bleeder off of that one to use with the F40?
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The F23 and F40 bleeder valve are the same, therefore I can buy the F23 master cylinder and pull the bleeder off of that one to use with the F40?


Yes.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:


Yes.


That saves a few dollars. THANK YOU!!!
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