Pennock's Fiero Forum
  General Fiero Chat
  Does this N* make me look fat

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


next newest topic | next oldest topic
Does this N* make me look fat by Dave E Bouy
Started on: 05-06-2014 08:32 PM
Replies: 38 (1636 views)
Last post by: OHNIKO on 05-25-2015 02:40 PM
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-06-2014 08:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cuz I gained 150 pounds. For anyone thats interested 3800 Series II s/c & 4 speed manual out, 06 N* & 4T80E into an 85 GT makes for a net weight gain of 140-150 pounds. Now coming in at 3212 with half a tank of fuel and my 250 pound carcass.

DF
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
jediperk
Member
Posts: 588
From: Center of the Universe
Registered: May 2013


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-06-2014 08:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jediperkSend a Private Message to jediperkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Y'up, my N* got a fat arse too! It does help a little bit to move the battery up front and jettison the spare. Mine is in an 87GT and weighed 3068lbs with 3/4 tank of fuel. Honestly though, I love the way mine drives. It sounds great and that Cadillac power-train is smoooth...

You went from a manual to the 4T80 and that is where a good deal of your weight gain came from.

[This message has been edited by jediperk (edited 05-06-2014).]

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-06-2014 09:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya I knew I'd be adding a bunch of weight with that monster tyranny but this thing is amazing. It just keeps pulling. I was always happy with the 3800 but I'll take this any day and with DarthFiero aka Ryan able to tune the 06 & 07 Northstar this becomes a viable swap option.

DF
IP: Logged
DKcustoms
Member
Posts: 1071
From: Central NY
Registered: Oct 2013


Feedback score:    (15)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-06-2014 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DKcustomsSend a Private Message to DKcustomsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Dave, what did you do with your Series II L67?

Any interest in selling it?
IP: Logged
PBJ
Member
Posts: 4167
From: London, On., Canada
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 146
Rate this member

Report this Post05-06-2014 10:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJClick Here to Email PBJSend a Private Message to PBJEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well done! Looking forward to seeing the car in action!

Pete

------------------


88 3800 turbo...10 sec Quarter Mile Member.

IP: Logged
Custom2M4
Member
Posts: 4414
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 114
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2014 01:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Custom2M4Click Here to Email Custom2M4Send a Private Message to Custom2M4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Try adding another 100 pounds for turbos, IC , and exhaust tubing.

------------------

IP: Logged
jb1
Member
Posts: 2140
From: Tullahoma, Tennessee
Registered: May 2003


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2014 03:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Click Here to Email jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:

Try adding another 100 pounds for turbos, IC , and exhaust tubing.


but with how much extra horsepower/torque with that 100 lbs?

------------------


87GTseries 1 3800sc (7.597 @88.53 1.579 60ft)
(series II swap in progress)
85GT Northstar/ 4t80e
86GT 3800 n/a---sold
Northstar Rebuild

IP: Logged
jediperk
Member
Posts: 588
From: Center of the Universe
Registered: May 2013


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2014 03:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jediperkSend a Private Message to jediperkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:

Try adding another 100 pounds for turbos, IC , and exhaust tubing.



Did you have to do anything to your 4T80/axles to handle the extra power? I ask b/c once I no longer need to use mine as a daily driver I plan on upgrading the heads and cams and adding NOS and I know the 4T80 is as stout as they come but just want to make sure...
IP: Logged
jediperk
Member
Posts: 588
From: Center of the Universe
Registered: May 2013


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2014 03:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jediperkSend a Private Message to jediperkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Dave E Bouy:

Ya I knew I'd be adding a bunch of weight with that monster tyranny but this thing is amazing. It just keeps pulling. I was always happy with the 3800 but I'll take this any day and with DarthFiero aka Ryan able to tune the 06 & 07 Northstar this becomes a viable swap option.

DF


Y'up, this engine comes alive above 3500rpm. Around town it feels just like a 4.9, then you get on the gas and at the point where the 4.9 hits the wall the N* comes to life! The way it pulls harder and harder all the way to redline is incredible.
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2014 09:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jediperk:


Y'up, this engine comes alive above 3500rpm. Around town it feels just like a 4.9, then you get on the gas and at the point where the 4.9 hits the wall the N* comes to life! The way it pulls harder and harder all the way to redline is incredible.

That's it exactly. I keep expecting it to hit that wall but it just accelerates and accelerates and accelerates and........well you get the idea and suddenly you're doing 100 +.

DF
IP: Logged
DLCLK87GT
Member
Posts: 2684
From: South Jersey, USA
Registered: Feb 2009


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2014 09:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DLCLK87GTSend a Private Message to DLCLK87GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
can any of you point me to your, or any good N* builds with all the needed info? I've done plenty of searching but haven't found a good complete one yet. I found a few that started off great but then just ended. I want to do a swap and would prefer the v8 vs the L67/L32 just because it's different.....the whole reason i got into Fieros. Thanks.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
jediperk
Member
Posts: 588
From: Center of the Universe
Registered: May 2013


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2014 05:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jediperkSend a Private Message to jediperkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by DLCLK87GT:

can any of you point me to your, or any good N* builds with all the needed info? I've done plenty of searching but haven't found a good complete one yet. I found a few that started off great but then just ended. I want to do a swap and would prefer the v8 vs the L67/L32 just because it's different.....the whole reason i got into Fieros. Thanks.


If you want to do a V8 Fiero and are starting from scratch I'd recommend going LSX. They are way less complicated, expensive and have more power potential than just about anything. Plus, if you want to have a high revving V8 it can do that too with some titanium push rods...
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2014 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by DLCLK87GT:

can any of you point me to your, or any good N* builds with all the needed info? I've done plenty of searching but haven't found a good complete one yet. I found a few that started off great but then just ended. I want to do a swap and would prefer the v8 vs the L67/L32 just because it's different.....the whole reason i got into Fieros. Thanks.


I don't have build thread and I agree that there aren't a lot of complete N* swap threads. What I did was kinda glean some from a bunch of different threads as far as any cradle mods are concerned. I was lucky in that I started with a cradle that had already been modified for a N* manual swap so the front cross member had already been relocated but since I was using the 4T80E I did have to fab all new mounts. DarthFiero provided a lot of the info I needed for the wiring and I doubt if I would have figured it all out without his help. Darth also tuned my ECM/TCM. One thing I would strongly recommend if you want to go Northstar is to go with an 06 or 07 just for its tunability compared to the first gen and y2k Northstar. I still have a couple of bugs to work out but I am pleased as heck with this. I do have some pics of how I did my mounts and exhaust which I'd be happy to post if anyone is interested.

DF

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2014 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Dave E Bouy

1442 posts
Member since Sep 2004
 
quote
Originally posted by DKcustoms:

Dave, what did you do with your Series II L67?

Any interest in selling it?


Hey DK. I sold my L67 4spd as a complete dropout last fall. Partly in order to finance this swap.

DF

IP: Logged
PBJ
Member
Posts: 4167
From: London, On., Canada
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 146
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2014 09:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJClick Here to Email PBJSend a Private Message to PBJEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Street Legal Friday night at St Thomas Drag way tomorrow. Will I see you there?

Pete

------------------


88 3800 turbo...10 sec Quarter Mile Member.

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2014 06:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by PBJ:

Street Legal Friday night at St Thomas Drag way tomorrow. Will I see you there?

Pete



Nah. Like I said I still have a couple of.bugs to work out. I keep going lean at lower rpms and I think I still have air in the cooling system cuz it runs hottish at low rpms too.

I know, I know. No low rpms at a drag race. I do want to try this out at the track sometime this summer. Probably Grand Bend tho. I popped in at Port Franks thinking you guys might be there the other day but no boats in the water yet.

DF
IP: Logged
DKcustoms
Member
Posts: 1071
From: Central NY
Registered: Oct 2013


Feedback score:    (15)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2014 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DKcustomsSend a Private Message to DKcustomsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Dave E Bouy:


Hey DK. I sold my L67 4spd as a complete dropout last fall. Partly in order to finance this swap.

DF


Thanks for the reply
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2014 10:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by PBJ:

Street Legal Friday night at St Thomas Drag way tomorrow. Will I see you there?

Pete



Nah. Like I said I still have a couple of.bugs to work out. I keep going lean at lower rpms and I think I still have air in the cooling system cuz it runs hottish at low rpms too.

I know, I know. No low rpms at a drag race. I do want to try this out at the track sometime this summer. Probably Grand Bend tho. I popped in at Port Franks thinking you guys might be there the other day but no boats in the water yet.

DF
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2014 10:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Dave E Bouy

1442 posts
Member since Sep 2004
Double double

IP: Logged
Back On Holiday
Member
Posts: 6238
From: Downingtown, PA
Registered: Jul 2001


Feedback score:    (17)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 153
Rate this member

Report this Post05-11-2014 12:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Back On HolidayClick Here to Email Back On HolidaySend a Private Message to Back On HolidayEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-13-2014 08:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
OK but you asked for it......

Out with the old


The Beast



I started with a cradle that had already been modified for a N* 4spd manual swap but since I wanted to go with the 4T80E more mods were necessary


Sizing things up for mount locations


Front trans mount and ya my welding sucks!


I thought I had pics of the other mounts but I guess I deleted them already

My cheapo exhaust




Since this was a manual car it had no trans cooler in the rad so this is what I've used. Its a frame rail trans cooler I got from Summit Racing. I just used compression fittings to attach to the existing 4T80E lines


Since I was using the stock 2006 ECM/TCM as tuned by Sinister Performance aka Darth as well as for other reasons I had to add 6 new electrical circuits. This involved adding an addtional fuse panel which I hid where I used to have a console glove compartment. The blue thing is a Bluetooth adapter thats plugged into my OBD II socket. This sends engine trans info to my android tablet and since I the CAN bus doesn't interface with the Fiero speedo or tach I'm getting that info thru my tablet too. There are wiring mods that should make my tach and speedo work, I just haven't gotten to that yet. I'd like to add that Darth has been an incredible resource for me particularly in matter of wiring and of course tuning. Many thanks Ryan


Notice I have 2 coolant filling locations. I started out just using the modified Fiero T-stat housing but was afraid I wasn't getting all the air out of the system so I have since added the pressure tank from a 2000ish Saturn with the air bleeder. So far I'm not sure its made a difference. I still get up to 210-220* at idle. Getting the rpms above 2000 and the temps drop immediately. At some point I will get rid of the modified Fiero T-stat housing.


I have been chasing a lean code that only shows up at low rpms and my Torque app also shows crazy short term fuel trims at idle or low rpms. Once I get above 2200 rpms or so everything settles out just fine. After doing some research on line I have thought I'm chasing a vacuum leak, however just for convenience sake I eliminated the pcv fresh air inlet hose and replaced it with one of those little filter type vents on the front valve cover but since in stock applications the pcv draws air out of the inlet duct post MAF I now wonder if there is metered air not being drawn out as the ECM is used to. Don't know if that makes sense but thats my theory for now. Anyway if you look at this next pic closely you can see where I plugged the hole in my air inlet duct that the pcv tube used to connect and you can see the filter vent thingy on the front valve cover.


If anyone is looking for particular info just holler

[This message has been edited by Dave E Bouy (edited 05-13-2014).]

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
FIEROFLYER
Member
Posts: 3971
From:
Registered: Oct 2002


Feedback score:    (13)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post05-13-2014 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIEROFLYERSend a Private Message to FIEROFLYEREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Looks good
IP: Logged
jediperk
Member
Posts: 588
From: Center of the Universe
Registered: May 2013


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 12:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jediperkSend a Private Message to jediperkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post


This thread just got a lot more interesting! Great pics...
IP: Logged
FIEROFLYER
Member
Posts: 3971
From:
Registered: Oct 2002


Feedback score:    (13)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 178
Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 10:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FIEROFLYERSend a Private Message to FIEROFLYEREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
When I first read the title I had flash backs to my ex asking if a dress made her look fat and all I could think of was the dress was not the problem.
As for the engine being so big well I would say it does not waste any space in the engine bay that's for sure.
IP: Logged
jb1
Member
Posts: 2140
From: Tullahoma, Tennessee
Registered: May 2003


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 12:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Click Here to Email jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
you solid mounted the motor/trans to the cradle?

------------------


87GTseries 1 3800sc (7.597 @88.53 1.579 60ft)
(series II swap in progress)
85GT Northstar/ 4t80e
86GT 3800 n/a---sold
Northstar Rebuild

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 05:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jb1:

you solid mounted the motor/trans to the cradle?


Yes, everything is mounted steel on steel. I really had no hesitation doing this since I had previous experience with a N* mounted this way and it is very smooth. Much smoother than the 3800 mounted on poly that used to be in this car.

DF
IP: Logged
cyrus88
Member
Posts: 305
From:
Registered: Jun 2003


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 06:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cyrus88Send a Private Message to cyrus88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by FIEROFLYER:

When I first read the title I had flash backs to my ex asking if a dress made her look fat and all I could think of was the dress was not the problem.
As for the engine being so big well I would say it does not waste any space in the engine bay that's for sure.


As Al Bundy said once "it's not the dress that makes you look fat. It's the fat that makes you look fat."
IP: Logged
jb1
Member
Posts: 2140
From: Tullahoma, Tennessee
Registered: May 2003


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-14-2014 06:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jb1Click Here to Email jb1Send a Private Message to jb1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Mine is solid mounted as well with poly cradle bushings.. that's why I was asking .

------------------


87GTseries 1 3800sc (7.597 @88.53 1.579 60ft)
(series II swap in progress)
85GT Northstar/ 4t80e
86GT 3800 n/a---sold
Northstar Rebuild

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-27-2014 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Dave E Bouy:

Since this was a manual car it had no trans cooler in the rad so this is what I've used. Its a frame rail trans cooler I got from Summit Racing. I just used compression fittings to attach to the existing 4T80E lines




OK as it turns out this transmission cooler wasn't cutting it and I have since added a more typical tube and fin type trans cooler up in front of the read that so far seems to be doing the trick.
IP: Logged
Paul.S
Member
Posts: 107
From: Grand Rapids MI
Registered: Nov 2014


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-13-2014 01:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Paul.SSend a Private Message to Paul.SEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Dave E Bouy:




If anyone is looking for particular info just holler


I love the clean look of your wiring. How did you do it? -Paul

------------------
1988 Fiero Formula 25k miles, garaged since 1988

IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-13-2014 07:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The wiring was carefully routed to minimize clutter and then was wrapped in this http://www.delcity.net/stor...dable-Sleeving/p_278 stuff and where tape was required I used good old fashioned hockey tape.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Paul.S
Member
Posts: 107
From: Grand Rapids MI
Registered: Nov 2014


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-13-2014 11:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Paul.SSend a Private Message to Paul.SEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Dave E Bouy:

The wiring was carefully routed to minimize clutter and then was wrapped in this http://www.delcity.net/stor...dable-Sleeving/p_278 stuff


Thanks for the link! What sizes did you use? Thanks, -Paul

------------------
1988 Fiero Formula 25k miles, garaged since 1988

IP: Logged
jmbishop
Member
Posts: 4419
From: Probably Texas
Registered: Jul 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 168
Rate this member

Report this Post12-16-2014 02:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopClick Here to Email jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This thread sucks, just when you think you've decided what your next swap will be a thread like this pops up.

I've actually wanted too do a Northstar for a long time but when I've looked I've had trouble finding anything I'd trust to be a good engine, rebuilding them has to be done right and it's not cheap. No matter what swap is next I plan on doing Megasquirt and there is plenty of info from people who have already done it on Northstars.
IP: Logged
zzzhuh
Member
Posts: 826
From: Colorado
Registered: Jan 2014


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-16-2014 07:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for zzzhuhSend a Private Message to zzzhuhEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That northstar looks absolutely amazing with purple! Any big differences besides the noise/money from a 3.8SC to a 4.6L Northstar?
IP: Logged
weaselbeak
Member
Posts: 2580
From: se iowa
Registered: Jun 2008


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 76
Rate this member

Report this Post12-18-2014 04:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for weaselbeakClick Here to Email weaselbeakSend a Private Message to weaselbeakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Your 3800 looked so good I would not have found the fortitude to pull it apart.
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-18-2014 08:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by zzzhuh:

That northstar looks absolutely amazing with purple! Any big differences besides the noise/money from a 3.8SC to a 4.6L Northstar?


I find that the 3800 had more torque down at the low end but the N* will snap your neck when you kick it down at cruising speeds. I may be comparing apples and oranges however. I also swapped in the caddy transmission in place of the 4 spd manual that was in the car when I had the 3800.

DF
IP: Logged
Dave E Bouy
Member
Posts: 1442
From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (6)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post12-18-2014 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave E BouyClick Here to Email Dave E BouySend a Private Message to Dave E BouyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

This thread sucks, just when you think you've decided what your next swap will be a thread like this pops up.

I've actually wanted too do a Northstar for a long time but when I've looked I've had trouble finding anything I'd trust to be a good engine, rebuilding them has to be done right and it's not cheap. No matter what swap is next I plan on doing Megasquirt and there is plenty of info from people who have already done it on Northstars.


I've been kicking around the idea of selling this N* as a complete drop out if you, or anyone else is interested. I would sell it as is or work out a deal to do the installation into your Fiero......... My life has gone thru some interesting changes in the past 6 months and I'm looking at going in a different direction. Would still want to keep a hand in the Fiero world but likely use this car as a daily

[This message has been edited by Dave E Bouy (edited 12-18-2014).]

IP: Logged
jmbishop
Member
Posts: 4419
From: Probably Texas
Registered: Jul 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 168
Rate this member

Report this Post12-18-2014 09:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopClick Here to Email jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I really would consider the offer if it would fit my budget. I just don't have the money at this time to buy a setup like yours.
IP: Logged
OHNIKO
Member
Posts: 2118
From: Southern Ontario, CANADA
Registered: Jul 2003


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-25-2015 02:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OHNIKOClick Here to Email OHNIKOSend a Private Message to OHNIKOEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
hey Dave, found it! this info will be helpful with the car & it's build history
thank you
IP: Logged

next newest topic | next oldest topic

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock