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Looking to borrow an 84 door or entire car by seajai
Started on: 03-26-2014 11:20 PM
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Report this Post03-26-2014 11:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am looking for someone around the Mpls/St.Paul metro area who has an 84 door, or an entire car, that I could use to develop and test a way to make my dew wipes work on the 84. I have had multiple inquiries on dew wipes for 84's so I think I'd like to take a stab at it. Let me know what you got and we can work out a deal.

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Report this Post03-27-2014 05:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRClick Here to Email RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Curious why they won't work.... What's different about the 84 door?

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Report this Post03-27-2014 07:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The distance between the door skin and window is about an 1/8"wider than the 85-88's. I've never seen one up close so I'm not sure if it's just a door skin thing or something else, but I'd like to install a new dew wipe and see what I need to change to make it work.
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Report this Post03-28-2014 06:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KEVClick Here to Email KEVSend a Private Message to KEVEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have my 84 Indy sitting in my garage that needs new ones...

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Report this Post03-28-2014 07:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Somewhere miidway through the 84 run they changed the 84 doorskin mounting. My 84 has regular old dew wipes and they work fine.
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Report this Post03-29-2014 01:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by jscott1:

Somewhere midway through the 84 run they changed the 84 doorskin mounting. My 84 has regular old dew wipes and they work fine.


Hmm, that's interesting, so the doorskin to glass measurement is 3/4" and not 7/8"? I wonder what the cutoff point is? Everything I've read says 84's are different. What is the build date for your car? You sure your doors are original?

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Report this Post03-29-2014 02:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for neverendingprojectClick Here to Email neverendingprojectSend a Private Message to neverendingprojectEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by jscott1:

Somewhere miidway through the 84 run they changed the 84 doorskin mounting. My 84 has regular old dew wipes and they work fine.


Yep I had early doors on my '84 but switched to power doors from another '84 with the newer style door skin. I replaced the dew wipes about 10 years ago with GM parts for the later cars and they fit fine.



This is a late '84 door skin, iirc the early skin can be identified by the notch in the area of the yellow line. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while.
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Report this Post03-29-2014 07:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The Fiero parts catalog has a 1st design (P/N# 20590904 RH) and 2nd design (P/N# 20682346 RH) listed for the 84 door skin. The 85-up door skin uses the 20682346 (RH) number. I Google-d the numbers but couldn't find any sort of production date cutoff for the switch.
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Report this Post03-29-2014 09:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rodrv6Click Here to Email Rodrv6Send a Private Message to Rodrv6Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My first 84 was built in February, 1984, and had the first design skins. My other 84 was built in May, 1984, and had the second design...........
Yeah, it doesn't narrow it down much......

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Originally posted by Rodrv6:

My first 84 was built in February, 1984, and had the first design skins. My other 84 was built in May, 1984, and had the second design...........
Yeah, it doesn't narrow it down much......



Well, it's a good start So is the notch / no notch at the end of the door skin a good indicator of 1st or 2nd design?
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Report this Post03-29-2014 04:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for seajaiSend a Private Message to seajaiEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So here is a picture of an early 84 1st design dew wipe next to a new one. Everything is identical except for the large lip opposite the window sweep side.



The new dew wipe will bolt in place of the 1st design and will contact the glass normally. The problem is, without the large lip to slip under the door skin, there is a gap between the skin and dew wipe.







I think a round or D-shaped rubber weatherstrip applied to the gap between the door skin and frame before installing the dew wipe would work.

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