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Got My New "V8 Pontiac" .... by GTGeff
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Just In Time For the 2014 Car Season.









Found this supplier at SEMA last Fall. So what do you think?
( Never mind the gray bearded one modeling it.)
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Looks Great - I like the shirt!
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Looks great Jeff

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Nice shirt!

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Huh. I'm not a fan. Maybe if Pontiac ever produced an even a halfway decent V8.
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Originally posted by RobertGT:

Huh. I'm not a fan. Maybe if Pontiac ever produced an even a halfway decent V8.


You are joking, right?
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Huh. I'm not a fan. Maybe if Pontiac ever produced an even a halfway decent V8.


I would consider the 389 a more than halfway decent V8. I can attest as my 389 was dyno'd at 448 hp. Have you ever owned a Pontiac v8?

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Love it !

Pretty darned cool Jeff.
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I second the 389. Theyre almost legendary. 421 isnt a slouch either . I had a 57 Star Chief with a 347 that was pretty racy too, especially with the L1 trailer gear.
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Well, I am stuck with my 350 Chevy engine (LT1). I will attempt to post up pictures tonight of the matching sign I got for the "Stinger" and other miscellaneous goodies for my "Pontiac" garage.


Thanks for the comments on the shirt. I think they come across as kind of retro / old school. Those are available through my wholesaler if anybody would want to do a group buy to save on some shipping costs.

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Even the lowly 301 Pontiac was good for an easy 200K.
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Huh. I'm not a fan. Maybe if Pontiac ever produced an even a halfway decent V8.


My bone stock 455-HO in my 72 Trans Am will suprise a lot of muscle cars. Pontiac built some great performing engines in its day........
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85 Trans Am 0 to 60 in 9.5 seconds, 2014 Hyundai Accent 0 to 60 in 7.7 seconds.
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Originally posted by Csjag:

85 Trans Am 0 to 60 in 9.5 seconds, 2014 Hyundai Accent 0 to 60 in 7.7 seconds.


The 85 T/A also has 29 year old technology and only came with a Chevrolet engine
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Yes you are right, the point I am trying to make is that a fast 0 to 60 time doesn't always equal "fun to drive"
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If my Formula ever gets a V8 I'll need one of those shirts.

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I had lots of fun with the 326 in my 63 lemans. My Pontiac LS4 is my current favorite.
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85 Trans Am 0 to 60 in 9.5 seconds, 2014 Hyundai Accent 0 to 60 in 7.7 seconds.


That was a chassis hookup thing, not a lack of power. Try getting the burnout of an HO 455 with your Accent. And why cherry pick the 80's? Why not look at the power available in 69 or 70?

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Theres a world of difference between a 72 and 85 TA. I had a 72 455HD. You could lite up the tires at will. A Hyundai can only do that on ice. How many thumbs up do you get driving down the street in a Hyundai ? Do you ever feel good just going for a drive in it ? Is it fun ? Anyone walk up and say 'cool car' ? I cant bet money on it, but pretty sure a 72 TA had a Pontiac Motor Division engine. I dont even remember any Chevrolet 455 ?

It dont make any difference if the Hyundai can do 130 mph and 0-80 in 3 seconds....Ill still NEVER own one.

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Theres a world of difference between a 72 and 85 TA. I had a 72 455HD. You could lite up the tires at will. A Hyundai can only do that on ice. How many thumbs up do you get driving down the street in a Hyundai ? Do you ever feel good just going for a drive in it ? Is it fun ? Anyone walk up and say 'cool car' ? I cant bet money on it, but pretty sure a 72 TA had a Pontiac Motor Division engine. I dont even remember any Chevrolet 455 ?

It dont make any difference if the Hyundai can do 130 mph and 0-80 in 3 seconds....Ill still NEVER own one.



The big engines were as follows, chev 454, Buick 455, Pontiac 455, olds 455 rocket. Either way, pontiac v8s were actually very well built before the emissions standards came in. My Pontiac 350 came with around 300 horsepower. The ls4 is still a gm engine though, Pontiac stopped building their own engines in the late 70s. They just threw parts bin motors into firebirds and other pontiacs around that time; for example, the 403 olds rocket, the left over Pontiac 301s, Chevrolet 305s, etc.

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My bone stock 455-HO in my 72 Trans Am will suprise a lot of muscle cars. Pontiac built some great performing engines in its day........



Other great Pontiac Engines:
62/63 421 available with dual quads or 3 deuce's - also had an HO version rated at 370HP but was closer to 405HP - Over shadowed by the Chevy 409 with 409HP.
67 - 69 428 - actually it was a 427 and was a bored out 421 - up to 390 HP - closer to 420HP

Fun Fact - did you know that:

The Pontiac V8 design is different from most other V8 designs. The external dimensions of the engine, from the 326 - 455 , is the same?

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The same connecting rod length of 6.625" and journal size is the same for traditional Pontiac engines from 287, 316.6, 347, 370, 389, 421, 336, 326, 350, 428, and 455 and the Indy 4 - not to be confused with the SD4 in the Fiero Pace Cars. The "Indy 4" was really the right bank of the 389 - configured as a inline 4 cylinder.

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The big engines were as follows, chev 454, Buick 455, Pontiac 455, olds 455 rocket. Either way, pontiac v8s were actually very well built before the emissions standards came in. My Pontiac 350 came with around 300 horsepower. The ls4 is still a gm engine though, Pontiac stopped building their own engines in the late 70s. They just threw parts bin motors into firebirds and other pontiacs around that time; for example, the 403 olds rocket, the left over Pontiac 301s, Chevrolet 305s, etc.


I know that the ls4 is a gm engine. Pontiac is a gm car. My ls4 came out of a Pontiac. I think that Pontiac is the only one to do a fwd ls4. I'm calling my engine a Pontiac even though I have 427 Corvette covers on it. I just didn't care for the ls4 covers. Besides I have a fake body on my car so I think that a fake engine cover fits right in.
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Originally posted by katatak:
Other great Pontiac Engines:
62/63 421 available with dual quads or 3 deuce's - also had an HO version rated at 370HP but was closer to 405HP - Over shadowed by the Chevy 409 with 409HP.
67 - 69 428 - actually it was a 427 and was a bored out 421 - up to 390 HP - closer to 420HP

Fun Fact - did you know that:

The Pontiac V8 design is different from most other V8 designs. The external dimensions of the engine, from the 326 - 455 , is the same?

Also:

The same connecting rod length of 6.625" and journal size is the same for traditional Pontiac engines from 287, 316.6, 347, 370, 389, 421, 336, 326, 350, 428, and 455 and the Indy 4 - not to be confused with the SD4 in the Fiero Pace Cars. The "Indy 4" was really the right bank of the 389 - configured as a inline 4 cylinder.


Fun facts you've posted there. I bought my 63 326 Le mans brand new from the factory ordered just the way I wanted it when I got out of the Navy. Before that the tempest had half of a v8 in it. I guess that it was half of a 389. I had a 63 Le mans convertible that needed a new engine and a friend of mine who had a Judge and an extra 455 offered it to me. Amazing that it was the same size as the 326.
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What about Cadillac's 508 cu.in. engine?
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85 Trans Am 0 to 60 in 9.5 seconds, 2014 Hyundai Accent 0 to 60 in 7.7 seconds.


ehh.. thats a CHEVY 5.0L engine.
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My 88 has a 6.2L in it, and I'd wear the shirt. Its a Pontiac and it has a V8 in it. The shirt doesn't say the V8 has to be a PONTIAC engine.
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Originally posted by qwikgta:

My 88 has a 6.2L in it, and I'd wear the shirt. Its a Pontiac and it has a V8 in it. The shirt doesn't say the V8 has to be a PONTIAC engine.



THANK YOU. Exactly. It is still a GM vehicle and a GM motor. Geezzz. Do I dare picture what I got for the modified Fiero or the garage walls?

Wasn't the 2.8 a Chevy motor?

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2.8 chevy motor yes...

pontiac when introduced really put a hurt on all the cars when they were racing. I've watched lots of documentaries on old school pontiacs

esentially now days buick, gm blah.. its all the same, but of course when it comes from the vette and goes backwards always down graded.

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