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what number Fiero is mine???? by Dotrenrew
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I did not know how to run a search on what I am looking for.

I just want to know what number my car is. I have seen the vin decoder, but it doesn't tell me my number.

I know with the wealth of useless information (some useful) on this site, somebody will be able to tell me.

VIN: 1G2AM37R0EP312188

Thank you in advance.

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From another website vin decoder. 112188

VIN Decoder

1 Made in USA
G Made by GM
2 Pontiac Division
A Fiero (P-Body)
M Sport Coupe
37 NotchbackNotchback
R 2.5L L4 (LR8)
0 Check Digit
E 1984
P Made in Pontiac, MI
312188 112188 of 136,840
release 2.41
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Originally posted by alcazar88:

From another website vin decoder. 112188

VIN Decoder

1 Made in USA
G Made by GM
2 Pontiac Division
A Fiero (P-Body)
M Sport Coupe
37 NotchbackNotchback
R 2.5L L4 (LR8)
0 Check Digit
E 1984
P Made in Pontiac, MI
312188 112188 of 136,840
release 2.41


Awesome, Thanks.
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For future reference, if anyone wants to know the "number" their car is it's pretty easy to figure out. You can even use this to determine what number in ALL Fiero production your car falls into.

The key numbers are the last six digits. They all usually begin with a "2". However - and this thread is a great illustrator because the OP has a 1984 model - when the 100,000 1984 model car was built the sequence rolled over to VIN digits 300,000. However, the reason why all subsequent years will always have a "2" as the sixth to last digit is because after 1984 production never exceeded 100,000 units per year.

For my 1986 GT as example my last digits are 279552. My car is the 79,552nd car built in 1986, and is the 292,763rd Fiero built in total production - 136,840 in 1984, 76,371 in 1985, and then add my 79,552 sequence number for '86.
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Try this VN decoder.
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Originally posted by Fiero84Freak:

The key numbers are the last six digits. They all usually begin with a "2". However - and this thread is a great illustrator because the OP has a 1984 model - when the 100,000 1984 model car was built the sequence rolled over to VIN digits 300,000. However, the reason why all subsequent years will always have a "2" as the sixth to last digit is because after 1984 production never exceeded 100,000 units per year.



So three equals one. Why didn't they just switch to one? Or use zero for zero in the first place? I hate craziness like that.
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Originally posted by jscott1:


So three equals one. Why didn't they just switch to one? Or use zero for zero in the first place? I hate craziness like that.


Must have been developed by the government.

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is there any way to find out the date mine was built?

From what I understand, they didn't start painting them black until later in the model year.

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I looked up how many were painted black in 84. According the Paul Vargys' chart 27,400 were painted black

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1984 White Fiero Sport Coupe (Juliet) in restoration
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/089093.html
1988 Red Fiero Standard Coupe (Bella) in restoration
1990 Black Buick Reatta (Noir)
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Originally posted by jscott1:
So three equals one. Why didn't they just switch to one? Or use zero for zero in the first place? I hate craziness like that.


My somewhat un-educated guess is that probably the reason why the first digit in the last six vin sequence begins with "2" for all years is because it follows two letters. If a "1" would have been placed there, it could have been potentially confused individuals reading the windshield VIN tag as appearing to be a letter "I" ( i ). By using a "2", it's clear that that position is the beginning of the number sequence. Then you can use "3", or even "4", and so on, since those numbers are readily identifiable.

 
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Originally posted by Dotrenrew:
is there any way to find out the date mine was built?

From what I understand, they didn't start painting them black until later in the model year.


That is correct. The only two colors available at start of production in 1983 for the 1984 model year was red and white. That's why you see so many red and white 1984 model cars. Eventually as production increased other colors were made available for 1984.

I believe that you can check the production date on the door sill ID tag. I haven't looked at mine in forever though.

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Looks like mine was born in August of 1984. I wonder when the 84 model
year ended production. If mine is #112188 of 136k built in 1984, they must
have been working 24-7 to squeeze out 24k more cars before 85 production
started.
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Initial demand for the Fiero was incredibly high and Pontiac was not prepared for the amount of individuals who wanted to buy the car. I believe eventually the Fiero plant in Pontiac, MI was running four shifts to keep production steady, hence why production increased exponentially through 1984.
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Originally posted by TopNotch:

Try this VN decoder.


I tried it with my vin, Wondering what "2 built in 1988" means

1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula

Engine: 2.8-liter V6
Body: notchback (GM body type 37)
Number 4976 of 26401 or 2 built in 1988

1
2
3 Region
Country
Manufacturer
Make 1
G
2 1 = North America
1 = United States
G2 = General Motors
2 = Pontiac
4
5 Carline P
E Fiero
6 Body type 1 2-door coupe/sedan (GM styles 11,27,37,47,57,97)
7 Restraints 1 manual belts, no airbags
8 Engine 9 2.8-liter V6 MPFI, GM RPO L44
9 Check digit 2 matches
10 Model year J 1988
11 Plant P Pontiac, MI
12
13
14
15
16
17 Manufacturing
plant
production
sequence
number 2
0
4
9
7
6
204976
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Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT:


I tried it with my vin, Wondering what "2 built in 1988" means

1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula

Engine: 2.8-liter V6
Body: notchback (GM body type 37)
Number 4976 of 26401 or 2 built in 1988

1
2
3 Region
Country
Manufacturer
Make 1
G
2 1 = North America
1 = United States
G2 = General Motors
2 = Pontiac
4
5 Carline P
E Fiero
6 Body type 1 2-door coupe/sedan (GM styles 11,27,37,47,57,97)
7 Restraints 1 manual belts, no airbags
8 Engine 9 2.8-liter V6 MPFI, GM RPO L44
9 Check digit 2 matches
10 Model year J 1988
11 Plant P Pontiac, MI
12
13
14
15
16
17 Manufacturing
plant
production
sequence
number 2
0
4
9
7
6
204976


either 26401 or 26402 were built
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