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Headlight Assembly Compatibility by Stainless1911
Started on: 07-06-2012 01:53 PM
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Report this Post07-06-2012 01:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Stainless1911Click Here to Email Stainless1911Send a Private Message to Stainless1911Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I was wondering if an 84-86 headlight assembly would fit in my 87. I know the 87/88 motors are different but what about the rest of it?

I went on The Fiero Store to see about a headlight motor, drivers side, and it was 109$. My eyes bugged out, and the censors wont let me type what I had exclaimed. It's a Fiero, not a Ferarri!.

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I have a 1987 Fiero, 4 cylinder 5 speed. With an 88 engine.

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Report this Post07-06-2012 02:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for thedrueSend a Private Message to thedrueEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The headlight buckets are interchangeable, infact I don't think the part numbers changed at all. The wiring is incompatible however and running early motors in a later car would be taking a huge step backwards!

Fix the Gen 2 system, usually a 5 dollar set of bushings from Rodney Dickman does the trick and you will have pop-up headlights that will work well for another 25 years.
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Report this Post04-29-2015 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for danielsjc20Click Here to Email danielsjc20Send a Private Message to danielsjc20Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
New to owing a Fiero and this site, just picked up an 1984 se with permanent up headlights. Are there any other light buckets that bolt in?

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Report this Post04-30-2015 02:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Firebird, maybe. Just fix what you've got. Once they're fixed (even the early generation), they'll be good for years (if not forever). If you just want something different, there are probably a dozen different (aftermarket) headlight set ups out there. Personally, I'm waiting to see Danyels 60mm setup.
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Report this Post04-30-2015 08:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageClick Here to Email fierofoolSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
84-86 use Generation 1 motors. 87 and 88 are Generation 2. The headlight mechanisms are the same throughout all years.

Daniel, your motors are rebuildable. Since your headlights are already up, so that you don't get your hand caught, turn on the headlights then plug up the single blue wire on each motor. With that done, you can begin diagnosis by the symptoms exhibited. Do the motors continue to run in the up position or down position? Do the lights go down when you turn them off? Does one work and the other not work?
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Report this Post04-30-2015 07:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
80s Firebirds use the same motor as far as I know, but the mechanism is different. Possibly 80s C4 Corvette motors also, at least they looked the same on both of mine as Fieros. Diagnosing it though you may find the wiring and relays are the problem and not the motors.
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Report this Post05-01-2015 02:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnWPBClick Here to visit JohnWPB's HomePageSend a Private Message to JohnWPBEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I agree with most here, fix the existing Generation II motors. It will cost well under $20 to do so. Gen 1 motors were slower, noisy, and not as reliable. Gen II motors are much quicker and quieter, and a much better and more reliable design. If you are not capable / comftorable fixing them yourself, I am sure if you post a thread, that someone would do it for you for a small fee.

Keep in mind, even if you decide to go with custom 90mm buckets, or most anything else custom, you will still need working motors.
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Report this Post05-01-2015 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageClick Here to Email fierofoolSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, if your gears are bad and the motor keeps running, I offer a rebuild service. Rodney Dickman's gears are $35 per motor plus shipping. My labor charge is $30 per motor plus return shipping which is usually under $20 for 2 motors. So, let's say $80 for gears, $60 for rebuild and $20 for return shipping to you, for $160 you will have a pair of like-new motors. Workmanship guaranteed for 1 year.

But first, we need to determine the true cause of your problem. The motors need to be connected to all their wires and tell us what they do or don't do. It might be something as simple as a $15 relay.
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Report this Post05-01-2015 11:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

80s Firebirds use the same motor as far as I know, but the mechanism is different. .


The 3rd gen firebird motors are the same as the 87-88 Fiero motors but they are the mirror image. A driver side Firebird motor fits on the passenger side Fiero and vice versa.

Firebird motors are usually easier to find since there were so many more of them made.

The vast majority of 87-88 Fiero motors just need the nylon plugs replaced. They cost about $5 for a set and take about 15 minutes to replace. I've done it so many times I could do it on the side of the road in the rain at night by flashlight in about 15 minutes.

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