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GM Port Fuel Injected Engine Weights by tb30570
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What are the weights of these engine families?

4 cylinders-------------------------------------------------------------

220-240 lb - Saturn I4 (LK0, L24, LL0)

302 lb - GM 122 OHV N/A (1.8, 2.0, 2.2)
GM 122 SOHC N/A (1.8, 2.0)
GM 122 SOHC T/C (1.8, 2.0)

307 lb - Ecotec N/A (L61, L42, LAP, LE8, LE5, LAT, LE9, LAF, LEA, LCV, L34, Z22YH)
http://www.fastfieros.com/t...upercharged_2005.htm
330 lb - Ecotec S/C (LSJ)
http://www.fastfieros.com/t...upercharged_2005.htm
360 lb - Ecotec T/C (LNF, LK9, LDK, LHU, LTG, Z20LET)

325 lb - GM Quad-4 (LD2, LG0, W41, LD9)

Chevrolet Vortec I4 (LK5, LLV)

6 cylinders-------------------------------------------------------------

Chevrolet Aluminum 60 degree Bowtie V6 N/A (10051141 block & 10048649/10218168 heads)
Chevrolet Aluminum 60 degree Bowtie V6 T/C (10051141 block & 10048649/10218168 heads)
http://www.lunghd.com/Downl...d_Links/V6_Parts.pdf

285 lb - Buick Aluminum V6 N/A (TAperformance)
341 lb - Buick Aluminum V6 S/C (TAperformance)
Buick Aluminum V6 T/C (TAperformance)
http://www.taperformance.com/products.asp?cat=141
http://www.taperformance.com/products.asp?cat=452

Chevrolet Aluminum 90 degree Bowtie V6 N/A (14011069 block & 10134359 heads)
Chevrolet Aluminum 90 degree Bowtie V6 T/C (14011069 block & 10134359 heads)
http://www.s-series.org/htm...erfParts/136-139.pdf

362 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 1 (L44, LB6, LB8, LH0, L32)
340 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 2/3 (LH0, L82, LG8, LA1, LX9)
GM 60 Degree V6 OHV T/C (LG5)
465 lb - GM 60 Degree V6 DOHC (LQ1)

380 lb - GM High Feature V6 N/A (LY7, LLT, LFX, LCS, LP1, LF1, LFW)
GM High Feature V6 T/C (LP9, LAU)

349 lb - GM High Value V6 (LX9, LZ4, LZE, LZ9, LZ8, LGD, LZG)

GM 54 Degree V6 N/A (LA3, L81, B258I, X25, X25XE, X30XE, C25XE)
GM 54 Degree V6 T/C (B308)

392 lb - Buick V6 N/A (LN3, LG7, L27, L36, L26)
448 lb - Buick V6 S/C (L67, L32)
Buick V6 T/C (LD5)

425 lb Chevrolet Vortec V6 N/A (LB4, L35, LF6, LU3, LG3)
http://www.pirate4x4.com/fo...wthread.php?t=354933
Chevrolet Vortec V6 T/C (LB4)

8 cylinders-------------------------------------------------------------

360 lb - Cadillac OHV V8 (HT4100, HT4500, LW2, L26)

468 lb - Northstar V8 N/A (4.6, 4.0)
Northstar V8 S/C (4.4)

478 lb - Chevrolet LS N/A (LS1, LS2, LS3, LS4, LS6, LM4, L33, LH6, LC9, L76, L92, L98, L77, L99)
Chevrolet LS S/C (LS9, LSA)
513 lb - Chevrolet LS7

576 lb - Chevrolet LT1 OHV V8
609 lb - Chevrolet LT4 OHV V8
632 lb - Chevrolet LT5 DOHC V8

Chevrolet SB Vortec V8 (L30, L31, LR4, LM7, L59, LQ4, LQ9, LY2, LY5, LMG, LH8, LY6, LFA, LSX)

Chevrolet BB Vortec V8 (L21, L29, L18)

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LS4 Total Engine Weight (Dry) is 478 lbs (does not include power steering pump, wiring harness, or computer)

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The Northstar 4.6L N/A engines weigh 468 lb dry.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

The Northstar 4.6L N/A engines weigh 468 lb dry.


I'm surprised a N* is lighter than the LS4
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one more for you Buick / Rover V8 320 lbs dressed dry weight
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The Saturn 1.9l DOHC weighs 240lbs. The SOHC is 10 or 20 pounds lighter, iirc.
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how is a lt4 220lb more than an lt1 that is the same engine,, with different heads,, with the lt4 being alum heads..

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

how is a lt4 220lb more than an lt1 that is the same engine,, with different heads,, with the lt4 being alum heads..


Agreed, LT1 weights are off. I have an iron-head LT1 in my Firebird and there's no way it weights over 780lbs WITH the T-56 transmission attached.
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Depending on the car, some LT1's had iron heads and some had aluminum heads.
Mine has alum heads.
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

how is a lt4 220lb more than an lt1 that is the same engine,, with different heads,, with the lt4 being alum heads..


here is the source. I thought it was strange too.

http://www.corvetteactionce...-lt1-lt4-weight.html
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Originally posted by LT188GT:

Depending on the car, some LT1's had iron heads and some had aluminum heads.
Mine has alum heads.

NO LT4'S HAD IRON HEADS, SO THEY SHOULD NOT BE HEAVIER THAN AN IRON HEADED LT1..
almost all gen1/2 sbc are 575 lb 598 with iron intake
over 1000 lb not a chance.. not even a big block.. untill you fully dress it.. and with iron everything.. tops 1000 lb
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I see the lt4 lb's been adjusted in o/p good..
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Originally posted by engine man:

one more for you Buick / Rover V8 320 lbs dressed dry weight


light engine. I don't know if I'd still consider it a GM engine by the time it saw port fuel injection though.
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I tried to sneak it in
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Quad-4 weighs 325lbs.

as per this page: http://texaslocost.homestead.com/Quad4page.html
Confirmed similar numbers on other pages for a complete (Starter, alternator, flywheel, etc) engine.

Ecotec LNF weighs 360lbs.

as per this page: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/tag/ecotec

Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4 pushrod weighs 302lbs.

as per this page: http://www.bacomatic.org/~d...brary/txt/engfyi.htm

BTW...the 2.0l L4 OHC I had way back when was TBI, not PFI...if it really matters!

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You should add the stock iron duke to the list just for the sake of comparison.
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Here are a few of the popular swap engines to add to the list

Point of reference stock Fiero 2.8L @ 348 lbs
4.9L Cad 360 lbs
3800SC 448 lbs
3.4TDC 492 lbs

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Your list as set up is kind of deficient in denoting the differences in the engine families... for instance you make no distinction between iron and aluminum heads in the 60* category. Also the LX9 3500 doesn't fit in with the other LZ/LG 'High Value' engines as it doesn't share the same VVT architecture...

The 3800, or Buick V6 as you listed it also has some significant changes between Series I and II... the LN3, LG7, L27 and the Series 1 L67 don't share the same block with the L32 and Series II L67.

Here is a reference for the LX9 3500, which will be essentially the same for all non-VVT aluminum head 60* V6 engines.(2.8MPFI/3.1MPFI/3100/3400)
Official LX9 Weigh-in

No alternator, power steering or A/C = 340lbs.

362 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 1 (L44, LB6, LB8, LH0, L32)
340 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 2/3 (LH0, L82, LG8, LA1, LX9) <- Note there were RWD/FWD versions of the LH0

The 3.4DOHC is about 465lb, that is with all accessories. Not 500lbs, Dennis.
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Originally posted by tb30570:


I'm surprised a N* is lighter than the LS4


Me too! I have both and I haven't weighed them but the N* has three more cams. Since they are both aluminum, how can the N* be lighter?
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Me too! I have both and I haven't weighed them but the N* has three more cams. Since they are both aluminum, how can the N* be lighter?


The LS4 I weighed was fully dressed except for the power steering pump, wiring harness, and computer. There were some pretty hefty cast iron brackets used on this engine that were still on it when I weighed it, and I'm sure that helped tip the scales a bit. I did weigh some of these components individually...

LS4 Engine Weights

Shortblock (dry): 259 lbs (incl crank, rods, pistons, cam, lifters, oil pan, balancer)
Heads (each) : 23 lbs (incl valves, springs, retainers, locks)
Pushrods/rocker arms: 13 lb
Valve covers (both): 6 lb
Intake, TB, hardware, fuel rails: 17 lb
Misc brackets, hardware: 21 lb
Front cover / water pump: 15 lb
starter, alt, hardware: 24 lb
mounts, pulleys, hardware: 12 lb
coil packs (both banks): 8 lb
a/c compressor: 15 lb
head gaskets: 2 lb
head bolts, other gaskets, hardware: 5 lb
front exh manifold: 16 lb
rear exh manifold: 11 lb
exh crossover: 8 lb

Was the Northstar also weighed fully-dressed or was it stripped down to the bare longblock when it was weighed?

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That's right. I forgot about the alternator mount on the ls4. It is a massive cast iron piece. I always wondered why they didn't just cast it out of aluminum.
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You need to split up the LS engine family quite a bit more.

The engines with DoD/AFM will weight slightly more than those without.

The truck engines that are iron block will weigh more than the aluminum block engines.

There are changes between the Gen 3, Gen 4, and different sets of Gen 4, which will also affect weight slightly.

For the most part, the differences shouldn't be too large though.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Here are a few of the popular swap engines to add to the list

Point of reference stock Fiero 2.8L @ 348 lbs
4.9L Cad 360 lbs
3800SC 448 lbs
3.4TDC 492 lbs




Where did that 3800SC info come from? Wikipedia said a L36 (3800 series 2 N/A) is 392lbs, does the supercharger, brackets, and heavier (beefier) internals really add up to that much more weight?
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Originally posted by mattwa:


Where did that 3800SC info come from? Wikipedia said a L36 (3800 series 2 N/A) is 392lbs, does the supercharger, brackets, and heavier (beefier) internals really add up to that much more weight?


50lbs really isn't all that much, and going from a plastic intake to a bunch of metal on top, makes a fairly big difference.
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50lbs really isn't all that much, and going from a plastic intake to a bunch of metal on top, makes a fairly big difference.


True. Makes sense to me.
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Originally posted by carbon:

Your list as set up is kind of deficient in denoting the differences in the engine families... for instance you make no distinction between iron and aluminum heads in the 60* category. Also the LX9 3500 doesn't fit in with the other LZ/LG 'High Value' engines as it doesn't share the same VVT architecture...

The 3800, or Buick V6 as you listed it also has some significant changes between Series I and II... the LN3, LG7, L27 and the Series 1 L67 don't share the same block with the L32 and Series II L67.

Here is a reference for the LX9 3500, which will be essentially the same for all non-VVT aluminum head 60* V6 engines.(2.8MPFI/3.1MPFI/3100/3400)
Official LX9 Weigh-in

No alternator, power steering or A/C = 340lbs.

362 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 1 (L44, LB6, LB8, LH0, L32)
340 lb - GM 60 Degreee V6 OHV N/A Gen 2/3 (LH0, L82, LG8, LA1, LX9) <- Note there were RWD/FWD versions of the LH0

The 3.4DOHC is about 465lb, that is with all accessories. Not 500lbs, Dennis.
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you give me the details, and I'll add them to the list.
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Originally posted by mattwa:


Where did that 3800SC info come from? Wikipedia said a L36 (3800 series 2 N/A) is 392lbs, does the supercharger, brackets, and heavier (beefier) internals really add up to that much more weight?


The Eaton supercharger, LIM , pulley, Belt are not light. Probably easily add 50 lbs.

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The 3.4 DOHC does not weigh 492lbs, Dennis. It weighs 465lbs.

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here is a pretty good source for weight data:

http://gomog.com/allmorgan/engineweights.html
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

The Northstar 4.6L N/A engines weigh 468 lb dry.


Fuel for the fire:



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you'res is missing parts.. put the intake and gear on. and exhaust headers and front dress.. brackets..

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I am aware.

Do you think that the items that bolt to the engine total 160 lbs?

The next time I have a fully dressed engine out of the car, I'll weigh it.

Edit: That was a rhetorical question. Of course the ancillaries don't weigh 160 lbs.

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Originally posted by Will:

I am aware.

Do you think that the items that bolt to the engine total 160 lbs?

The next time I have a fully dressed engine out of the car, I'll weigh it.

Edit: That was a rhetorical question. Of course the ancillaries don't weigh 160 lbs.




but your wrong..
starter 20
alt 11
p/s pump 12
brackets 25
headers 30
intake and efi 39
a/c compressor 22
water pump,
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but your wrong..
starter 20
alt 11
p/s pump 12
brackets 25
headers 30
intake and efi 39
a/c compressor 22
water pump,
belt tentioner


LOL!

You've obviously never done anything with a Northstar.

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Also: http://www.englishbaby.com/...rammar/your_vs_youre

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LOL!

You've obviously never done anything with a Northstar.

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Also: http://www.englishbaby.com/...rammar/your_vs_youre




those are weights out of my ac delco parts book..
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

those are weights out of my ac delco parts book..


I love parts book engineering.
A book is not an engine.

 
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

but your wrong..
starter 20
alt 11
p/s pump 12
brackets 25
headers 30
intake and efi 39
a/c compressor 22
water pump,
belt tentioner


I haven't weighed all of these components, and I don't intend to any time soon, as I have too much to do to take the time.

These are my estimates:

starter: 10 (gear reduction starter)
alt 11
p/s pump 0 (not used)
brackets 20 (engine mount and accessory mount brackets)
headers 10 each (single wall fabricated stainless steel manifolds)
intake and efi 10 (nylon manifold)
a/c compressor 22 (seems high)
water pump, 0 additional (Included with the engine on the palet)

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hahhaha the 8 injectors are ten at least.
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Report this Post08-04-2012 10:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillClick Here to Email WillSend a Private Message to WillEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Over a pound per injector?

Go back under the bridge, troll.
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what does a turbo 3.1L LG5 weigh with the turbo and inner-cooler?
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Report this Post12-06-2012 11:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have my doubts that the LX9 weighs the same as the other high value motors. it should weigh in closer to the Gen III 60*V6. if I had to guess, I would say the rest of the high value engines would be a tick heavier.

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