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New engine swap, 4.9 V8 to a 2.0 4 cylinder by FieroMaster88
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Report this Post05-09-2012 07:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroMaster88Send a Private Message to FieroMaster88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here's some pictures of the parts:
Exhaust pipe:

Intercooler pipe:

Intercooler parts:

Fabricated 2.5" Exhaust:




It took about 3 hours to build the exhaust and I'm really happy with the results. I have enough pipe left over to build another exhaust too. Next project is the intercooler.

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Nice work on your exhaust. I got asked all the time why I didnt run the outlets on both sides on my last Fiero (88GT L67). Easier, cheaper, lighter and flows better came to mind. I tried to get the point across to Dean on my current build. I still think he is going to try to have a symmetrical exhaust. I don't see the point.

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My car came stock with a 4 cylinder, single exhaust so it's only fitting that it has a single exhaust now.
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My 88 2.5 had the dual trumpet exhaust from the factory I think. Both cutouts in the bumper are stock. It just seems odd to have one exhaust tip per cylinder originating from one pipe. It doesn't get any more for show than that!
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Took a couple pictures today after cleaning the car up.




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And a crappy video I took with my Iphone. Sound is not that great and never mind my belt squeak.

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Took a couple pictures today after cleaning the car up.




I like the in dash boost. Nice! Your car looks great. However, mirrors are for show cars. IMO, they have no place on performance cars. And you sir, have a PERFORMANCE car. I did see mirros right? lol
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The car is a little bit of everything. Show and go.
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Just an update. The dog bone mount broke when driving the other day. I am going to redo the engine mounts now so the engine doesn't move and it won't need a dogbone. I need to install the water to air intercooler too.
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I know this swap isn't popular, but I must say it's one of the swaps that looks like it belongs in a Fiero. Only thing that looks odd about it it the writting being upside down. Good job!

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Looks pretty good. Thats a rare engine too! And those rims were something like I was wonting for the Formula. I just cant ever seem to locate the proper offsets.

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I redid the engine mounts today. I welded better, stronger brackets and polyeurthane mounts. I no longer need the upper dogbone which is good because it broke. I also leveled the engine. Before it was sitting about an inch high on the right side. The car is much smoother to drive now. No pictures because I was focused on what I was doing. Maybe now I can finally get to my intercooler install.
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Yeah, get to that w2a instal!
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Finally have a couple hours with nothing to do so I'm going to work on the w2a setup. I'll take some pictures and post em up later.
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Hell yeah!
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I had to order a couple parts for the charge pipes so not much progress. I got the w2a intercooler in its location:
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I must be missing something, how are you going to route the charge pipes into the heat exchanger if the inlet and outlet are against the firewall?
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One of the best looking engines GM ever made, looks great!
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The inlet and outlet are not aginst the firewall. There is about 7 inches there. I ordered 2 silicone 90 degree couplers for them. It gives me a more direct routing to the turbo.
Now that I look at the pictures on my laptop and not my phone I see that it does look like the inlet and outlet are against the firewall. It's deceiving because they are not. I ordered these for the inlet and outlet

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Did a little troubleshooting on my temperature gauge today. It is well into the red before the fan was kicking on. I was not too worried about it because the engine did not seem that warm. Today I let the car idle until the fan kicked on then checked the temperature reading with a second gauge. It read 190 degrees coolant temperature. The gauge in the car was pegged in the red. I guess I need to find a new gauge.
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Did a little troubleshooting on my temperature gauge today. It is well into the red before the fan was kicking on. I was not too worried about it because the engine did not seem that warm. Today I let the car idle until the fan kicked on then checked the temperature reading with a second gauge. It read 190 degrees coolant temperature. The gauge in the car was pegged in the red. I guess I need to find a new gauge.


Good job on the Brazilian engine in a Fiero. I had an 87 Funbird with the turbo 2.0. Not bad little motors - just like to eat head gaskets and warp heads about every 40K miles.... That stupid bolta through the carrier and through the head sandwiching, combined with the TTY bolts (dont ever reuse them!, unless you went ARP)

Watch the boost, keep it from detonating, and have fun.

Oh - wondering what happens when you dont do that???





I see you transplanted the tach/boost gauge - I always did like the Funbird dash.... Nice touch!
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I'm working on an intercooler setup right now. I have a wide band o2 and plan on getting some tuning done after I'm finished with the intercooler to avoid a major failure. It is a fun swap that's for sure.
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Another slow afternoon at work. I think I'll work on the intercooler setup some more.
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Off topic, but I want to get my fiero up on a lift like the one you have pictured fieromaster88. Can you show / tell me where you place the feet before you lift? (I don't want to crush the cooling tubes or floor pan)
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Got the charge pipes all installed. Next will be installing everything on the wet side.

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Off topic, but I want to get my fiero up on a lift like the one you have pictured fieromaster88. Can you show / tell me where you place the feet before you lift? (I don't want to crush the cooling tubes or floor pan)


The hoist arms in the rear go to the engine cradle and the front arms go to the front frame rails. I'll try to get a picture next time I have the car in the air.
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Nice!!!! You going to have the tune checked and adjusted to take advantage of the new tubby and lower charge temps?
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Nice!!!! You going to have the tune checked and adjusted to take advantage of the new tubby and lower charge temps?


That's the plan. I hope to see an increase in fuel mileage too.
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I installed a charge pipe coupler to replace one that was split. I'll be driving it again tomorrow. I should have time next week to finish the intercooler install. I have to get the radiator and pump mounted, run the water hoses then wire up the pump and fan. It's been too damn hot at work to even care. 100+ degrees in the shop is getting a little old.
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And people thought I was crazy for putting AC in my garage! Ha!
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And people thought I was crazy for putting AC in my garage! Ha!


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Portage Mi eh?

Maybe we can have a little 4 cylinder shoot off sometime this summer?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...2pI&feature=youtu.be

and my phone can't do loud sounds very well lol
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I wish we had a/c at work. It sucks working on cars when it's so hot. Oh well. Maybe I'll get the intercooler done next week when it cools off. I drove the car today, god I love this engine setup! Still working out the bugs but it's way more fun that the 4.9 was.

Picture from the other day:
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Portage Mi eh?

Maybe we can have a little 4 cylinder shoot off sometime this summer?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...2pI&feature=youtu.be

and my phone can't do loud sounds very well lol


Any pictures of your swap? Ecotec turbo?
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Took the dog for a ride today:


Hopefully I get some time to finish installing the wet side of the w2a intercooler soon...
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Had a guy I know who details cars come polish the car today. It looks amazing! I'll have to get the camera out and take some pictures. I still have not had time to work on the intercooler. Hopefully soon...
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Pictures after it was detailed and polished:



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Tease... I was looking for some w2a pr0n!
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I should have time to work on it this week. What should I use for a tank?
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You can use the tank that silicone intakes sell. Or call Dean, he has my old one. We didnt use it on my build.
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