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Pontiackid86's 84 DGP IMSA Stage III build thread. by pontiackid86
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Report this Post09-18-2010 08:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks a bunch guys. I cant wait to get her on the road.,... It drives me nuts just sitting in it. Thomas i'm going to be comming to you foir visors when i get everything running wise situated.
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sounds good to me. I would love to make a set for that car.

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put an engine in this soon...

Anyone should be able to get a stock Duke in and running quick.

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put an engine in this soon...

Anyone should be able to get a stock Duke in and running quick.



I'm having trouble finding a good running duke to put in there temporarly. i want to steer away from the 84 duke cause of the fire problems I was told i can use an 85-86 if i use an 84 ignition system on it.

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I'm having trouble finding a good running duke to put in there temporarly. i want to steer away from the 84 duke cause of the fire problems I was told i can use an 85-86 if i use an 84 ignition system on it.


What fire problems on the 84? The fire problems were resolved with the recall that replaced the 3qt oil pan to the 4qt oil pan.
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Nice machine and good work PK. I am officially green with envy.

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What fire problems on the 84? The fire problems were resolved with the recall that replaced the 3qt oil pan to the 4qt oil pan.


He's probably referring to the defective connecting rod problem.
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What fire problems on the 84? The fire problems were resolved with the recall that replaced the 3qt oil pan to the 4qt oil pan.


I don't think they changed the pan, I think they just changed the dipstick and added more oil to the pan to reach the new full line

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He's probably referring to the defective connecting rod problem.


Yeah, I thought the connecting rod problem was the 3qt oil pan running low and throwing a rod through the block.
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... I was told i can use an 85-86 if i use an 84 ignition system on it.


True.
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It's been 26 years.....if it hasn't blown up yet, I'd think an 84 engine would be fine.....
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I'm having trouble finding a good running duke to put in there temporarly. i want to steer away from the 84 duke cause of the fire problems I was told i can use an 85-86 if i use an 84 ignition system on it.


I have an 86 duke! How bad ya want it? :P
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I have an 86 duke! How bad ya want it? :P
I want it really bad. PM me with the details.

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Re: recall
I've heard it both ways. A bad batch of connecting rods and the specification of 3 quarts of oil. But the fix for the low oil was a different dipstick, not a new oil pan.

My 86 owners manual still called for 3 quarts (w/ or w/o filter) so it must have taken them a while to get that straightened out!

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Hey PC --- How's your dad doing ---- didn't know which post to look in so I just chose this one. PS - cars looking pretty good !
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Hey PC --- How's your dad doing ---- didn't know which post to look in so I just chose this one. PS - cars looking pretty good !


Hes doing good. hes going to be going back in for bypass surgery in a few weeks, they doctors expect him to pull through just fine. Thanks for asking .. thanks for the complement on the car to brotha
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Can you PLEASE chop the top???? like the car - IMSA chop top notchie would be AWESOME

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Can you PLEASE chop the top???? like the car - IMSA chop top notchie would be AWESOME


No can do dude. Car has way to much history behind it to do that kind of custom work. it woul look pretty good though

My other fiero might see a choptop someday though

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PM sent, I found a 87 4-tech, not sure of the details of the engine(mileage, etc) but PM you the info
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I may have landed a motor for it
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Yea chop tops look cool, but I don't like them. Why? Because I barely have any headroom as it is, my head hits the headliner on non-sunroof Fiero's.
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Yea chop tops look cool, but I don't like them. Why? Because I barely have any headroom as it is, my head hits the headliner on non-sunroof Fiero's.



Thats because you are an abnormaly tall individual i feel small in my fiero.

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Thats because you are an abnormaly tall individual i feel small in my fiero.


Would you PLEASE do some work on that car?!
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Thats because you are an abnormaly tall individual i feel small in my fiero.


Yes I am. I have the seat all the way back, it fits my long legs. The challenge is the size 15 shoe doesn't fit well under the dash.

 
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Would you PLEASE do some work on that car?!

Your talking to PK right? He just started a dash swap on his 87. Personally I don't plan to do a dash swap, I like the current dash, with some small tweaks.
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Would you PLEASE do some work on that car?!



Lol why so you dont have to compete aganst my 87 in custom fastback at littiz

If all goes well i'm going to have a motor for it this weekend. Than its gungho for littiz

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Lol why so you dont have to compete aganst my 87 in custom fastback at littiz

If all goes well i'm going to have a motor for it this weekend. Than its gungho for littiz



When my car is finished in 50 years, there will be no competition.
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Got an email about another score on an original part to this car... i'm sure im going to catch a lot of sh*t for it but these are original to the car so there going back in... yes thoes ugly sheep skin/suade seats



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Sheepskin! I can dig it!

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Sheepskin! I can dig it!




Lol i really dont like them either to much but i want to replace everything that the RPO sheet said it has so this kinds screwed me seat wise.... but i can learn to dig um.

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Ehh its just one of thoes cars that you have to be careful what you do with it. This wasn't a car that I put together. It was something put together back in 1984 for a very special purpose in the IMSA races. It wasn't something someone threw together in a garage.


I'm wondering about the history of your car. Your car is a street car and not one of the IMSA tube chassis race cars. Is it the street car in the Car and Driver article? If so it looks quite different i.e. new paint, wheels, interior changes, etc. Is the original paint under the dole race team style paint? While I have no doubt your car is a very early DGP IMSA I do question wether it is the C/D car built by John Callies and his group. If so do you have any documentation of that? What is the special purpose of this car? Please explain the history.

Not that I'm doubting you but there seems to be many differences between your car and the magazine car. I'd like to see some documentation to prove it's historical signifigance to the Fiero community. Without such proof it's just a nice conversion. Either way you still have a very nice car and I wish you success in your project

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Looks good now... Thanks for selling it to me... I'm gonna put a supercharged chevy small block in it... and bolt on turbo whistlers on the tailpipes...


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Looks good now... Thanks for selling it to me... I'm gonna put a supercharged chevy small block in it... and bolt on turbo whistlers on the tailpipes...




The whistler is the dumbest crap I have ever seen. Thats just my opinion

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lol - How could you make fun of this??

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Looks good now... Thanks for selling it to me... I'm gonna put a supercharged chevy small block in it... and bolt on turbo whistlers on the tailpipes...


Lol dreamer's


Cars still in my driveway people.

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I'm wondering about the history of your car. Your car is a street car and not one of the IMSA tube chassis race cars. Is it the street car in the Car and Driver article? If so it looks quite different i.e. new paint, wheels, interior changes, etc. Is the original paint under the dole race team style paint? While I have no doubt your car is a very early DGP IMSA I do question wether it is the C/D car built by John Callies and his group. If so do you have any documentation of that? What is the special purpose of this car? Please explain the history.

Not that I'm doubting you but there seems to be many differences between your car and the magazine car. I'd like to see some documentation to prove it's historical signifigance to the Fiero community. Without such proof it's just a nice conversion. Either way you still have a very nice car and I wish you success in your project



I know the car does have somthing to do with the dole team. Just not sure how it relates to it yet. (having the vin researched) The car in the mag is the actual racer. Mine (if the vin comes up what i'm sure it will come up) is a promo car to the racer. I have no doubt that it is because even when looking under the car theres things under there that i'v never seen on a normal fiero (defuser's bracket's etc). I still need the vin checked but also if it wasent the real thing most times people would get the kit and do there own thing with it not do it up to be a replica of the dole car (pannels paint SD4 which isant in it anymore)

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I know the car does have somthing to do with the dole team. Just not sure how it relates to it yet. (having the vin researched) The car in the mag is the actual racer. Mine (if the vin comes up what i'm sure it will come up) is a promo car to the racer. I have no doubt that it is because even when looking under the car theres things under there that i'v never seen on a normal fiero (defuser's bracket's etc). I still need the vin checked but also if it wasent the real thing most times people would get the kit and do there own thing with it not do it up to be a replica of the dole car (pannels paint SD4 which isant in it anymore)


I don't know if this helps or not, but wikipedia has a listing of Fiero VINs...
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I don't know if this helps or not, but wikipedia has a listing of Fiero VINs...



I might look into that. I dont know if theres is a VIN decoder or not. I'm looking to bring up the vehical's in depth history.

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all i'm sayin' is this... pretendin' you 'can't get it running' while beboppin' around town in your sweet chop top widebody has gotta be misery... come clean already lol
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all i'm sayin' is this... pretendin' you 'can't get it running' while beboppin' around town in your sweet chop top widebody has gotta be misery... come clean already lol


Lol with any luck it will be running this weekend.
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I've seen several DGP IMSA's painted up like that. Your car wasn't the only one. Is the SPI fender tag still on the car? Can you take and post a pic of it? It appears you're making good progress on this car, good luck with your build

edit to add--- I just ran a search on The_stickman2 looking for any history he may have found on your car. All that was there was speculation as to it's history. It appears to be a very early car but from what I saw there was never any documentation found as to who built it or what is was built for. Looking through that thread it doesn't appear to be a validateable prototype/promotional car. I'm not saying it isn't what you hope it to be, but nothing has surfaced to prove it is such.

RAREW66 commented in some of the threads and really only seemed mainly interested in the SD4 as those parts are harder and harder to find.. He is a big time Fiero collector and very knowledgable as to Fiero history. If he wasn't interested in the car I would say it most likely wasn't built by or for Pontiac/GM.

It may have been built by DGP, or another company or race team for promotional purposes, but I don't know how you could prove that. You could possibly run a title search on the car to track down previous owners and that may lead you back to who, when, where, and for what, the car was built.

I wouldn't be suprised though if you find out in the end it is merely an IMSA bodied fiero that had an SD4 installed. If that's what it turns out to be you still have a VERY interesting special car, build it and enjoy it

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[This message has been edited by av8fiero (edited 09-23-2010).]

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