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A Real Mera in Paradise by Fiero-in-Paradise
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Evening Rodney ---- I'd be in for a set of Ambers -- How about with a center back-up light as with the real 308's

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i have new old stock OEM MERA1 rear red and amber lenses.


I could have bought these from Fiero Conversions. They offered them to me a few times thru the years. I should have bought them. I think they wanted around $20 each for them. I would have to call Sue and ask. Nice to be able to sell them now for $1000 for a set of 4. Nice profit margin! If the demand is there I can get them made and sell them for a resonable price.

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Hey Mera7, you say that about a discount to Mera owners, but those prices you PM'd me were outrageous, your bumper was double the price of Rod's, your sails for that price I could build my own. I am not jumping on you, but your making a false statement, if thats helping me, I can do without. Rod I will be contacting you about that bumper I don't think I want to fix mine...already have enought to fix..lol

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If anyone needs an Mera Tailights contact me. I'm looking to have some made. Price should be around $70 or so each.



How long before these would be available?

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if u could buy them for 20. each u should have. sue made me pay far more than that for them.


I called Fiero Conversions today, now Jimmy's Automotive and Custom Inc. I talked to Jim. Seems Sue does not come in much these days. I have known them both for many, many years now. Jimmy told me you paid $25 each for them. If you or anyone would like to call Jim and verify that price be my guest:

http://www.jimmysautomotiveandcustom.com/

Keep in mind this is just the lens. Not the complete tailight assembly.

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Hey Mera7, you say that about a discount to Mera owners, but those prices you PM'd me were outrageous, your sails for that price I could build my own.


I asked Jimmy about these louvers (sail panels). Jimmy still has molds for these. They sell them for $75 each. $150 for a pair.

He does have some (only a few) left over 308/328 kit parts yet. He also still has the mold to make 328 front clips.

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boys, boys.....lets play nice....shall we.

Cam383.....i am not too sure you have a Mera being on a 1986 Fiero.....do you have the Mera ID tag in the rear trunk??
and can you PM me your VIN # so i can confirm that to start??
those are the only real way to claim Mera status.....i do not have a sticker and till i prove what production Mera # i have, even My Mera is in question. i have said it all along....but i have seen thingstho

in keeping with the theme "not to be mean" or pushy but to me your Pictures will help in that clarification.
cant wait to see them.....i have over 10,000 pictures of My Mera and every other one i have found Kit or not. there is actually a bunch of New Meras here in this very Thread??? owners with mulituple Meras helps in the data recovery available all over the WEB!

but sorry to say, for now you are not a Mera owner, same as me...no discount .....i have done a lot of "leg Work" on these Meras and its is only by comparison of the 86 ProtoType, with the similiarities between my Mera X and Proto for me to be saying anything here at all.

if i can get the release of some very significant Mera Histroy from a Member here i/WE will break the Mystery wide open.

i want to make sure that now with the demise of Pontiac.....that these pieces of history get proper mention in all history books around the world, wherever Pontiac Fiero's are concerned. get ya sum!!

see i have found all kinds of wrong information on and about the Mera that warrants a FULL overhaul of ...."What Really, is a Mera?"

you know like the one that says all 1987 Meras were on GT's?? not true!! i have photo proof from theCC factory that at least one SE made it into a very early Mera.. (i have a SE under my "Mera" to confirm, maybe??)....but that is on the first floor as far as false information......so, its out there and I INTEND TO CHANGE THAT.

anyway.....i finally found the little a$$, hole that was causing me all the grief......little bastard, too!
thru a plug in it and so its off the the air fillin station.

be good now, ya here!

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Talking to Jimmy he thought his old 308 molds were somewhere in Toronto. There are most likely also several other sets of molds out there somewhere. Maybe one should do some searching and see if we can find other sources for these parts. Try here:

http://www.madmechanics.com/

I have not been there for a long time. There are many other sites that have to do with Fiero kit cars. Some searching would find them. It would be interesting if we could find some of these old molds. I wonder where they are these days?

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First off Mike I really don't care what YOUR PERCEPTION IS. It is not a one piece if you read my following post I clearly stated I misunderstood what Dan was saying. I have every tell tale sign of a Mera including the tail lights saying Mera also posted in an additional text. So in my perception you are a rip off, AND YOU CAN KEEP YOUR MOLDS AND PARTS AND YOUR OPINIONS OR PERCEPTIONS TO YOURSELF...THANKS. DON'T HATE CAUSE THE KID GOT ONE FOR FREE, JUST CONGRADULATE...

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First off Mike I really don't care what YOUR PERCEPTION IS. It is not a one piece if you read my following post I clearly stated I misunderstood what Dan was saying. I have every tell tale sign of a Mera including the tail lights saying Mera also posted in an additional text. So in my perception you are a rip off, AND YOU CAN KEEP YOUR MOLDS AND PARTS AND YOUR OPINIONS OR PERCEPTIONS TO YOURSELF...THANKS. DON'T HATE CAUSE THE KID GOT ONE FOR FREE, JUST CONGRADULATE...


 
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........ Now for what I found today.....very puzzling.....ok first the rear is all one piece..however no badge..maybe it had it but deck lid was damaged by Ivan, tail lights say MERA1......... thanks.





now to clarify the arrows are pointing to a panel split.....

Cam383.... if yours is not separate from the triangle Sail down to rear.....its a kit.
good thing is.... if it "IS" 2 pieces then first step is completed.......now to the Mera Build Sticker on the Rear Deck lid......do you have one??

also since the Meras demise that left a bunch of overstock of things like tail lights. sold and/or bought by the 308/328 kit manufactures.

Cam? do you have both amber/red Mera 1 lights??
and as to the reverse lights you state that you have none, correct??

lets say the answer is yes and no.....well then its on to the Vin # if your 8th digit is an R= 4 cly. engine.....not possible in a "real" Mera.
also if the 10th digit is a G then its a 1986 Fiero and other than the known "1986 ProtoType".....its is not possible to be a Mera. sorry.

now, if in fact you have a salvaged real Mera complete set up....."numbers matching"......that is still better than a kit. these salvaged Meras are out there. one in HI comes to mind......so do not get discourged.....it will work out to something

that said.....i have paperwork as to the wholesale price for the Real Mera Conversion, "they" Corporate Concepts, did the conversion for, $8,000.

so that is what it cost Pontiac Dealers to convert a Fiero to a Mera......plus some options....the Leather Package .....like Tommy has.....Richard too i think.....anyway.

PEACE Y'ALL,

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if yours is not separate from the triangle Sail down to rear.....its a kit.
good thing is.... if it "IS" 2 pieces then first step is completed.......


Hmmm.... mine was a kit and the panel is seperate. That seam was filled on mine prior to the guide coat, now it's cracking. Good thing the final paint wasn't done yet. Perhaps not all kits are the same?

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Cam,

Mike is correct about your car based on what you have told us. If you car is indeed an 86 it is not an acutal Mera. The one and only 86 prototype is accounted for and documented. Your car may have some Mera specific body panels and taillight lenses. I am sure that what was left over after Mera production ended got spread around and used by various kit makers. I am also sure remaining "Mera" taillight lenses were still much less expensive than the Ferrari originals at the time, and used by those same kit makers. Now, if you send us pictures showing a Mera production #/paint id badge under the decklid of your car then we have something new to start discussing.

When looking for my Mera, I almost did not purchase it. According to all I had read, and been told, no 88 Mera's were built on GT chassis, only Formula's. Only when the original owner sent me a copy of the title for his car, along with all Mera documentation, did I believe it was a real Mera. I later found out that my car was one of six 88 Mera's actually built on a GT chassis. I almost passed on great find.

We have a number of 308/328 kit owners on this thread an all are welcome here. Some of these kits actually eclipse the Mera in authenticity compared to the 308. It is very interesting learning about the diffent versions of these cars. Eventually we hope to see pictures of your car, and we can assist you with your build. Mike as the owner of his molds, and parts, has the right to charge what ever he wants for them. It is you decision if you want to purchase from him or not. If Mike later decides to adjust his pricing based on sales, that is his decision too. He is used to dealing with owners of Porsche's, and actual Ferrari's. What may seem expensive to us, is not unreasonable to people with that kind of disposable income.

There are other vendors out there that offer parts for these cars, but not that many. Rodney makes, and offers quality parts, and has helped keep our Fiero's and to some extent the Mera's going for quite a while. I have purchased many of his parts and been quite satisfied. Rodney does not have the lowest prices, but he offers things we can't alway get anywhere else. To me it make it worth the little extra money to make sure Rodney stays in business. Even he has discontinued parts that I wished he still made.
But, if there is not enough demand, it is not in his best interest to have his money tied up in parts that do not sell in any quantity.

This thread is for owners of these cars to put togher a knowledge base of where we can find parts, how to keep our cars alive, learn about, and enjoy them.

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. Even he has discontinued parts that I wished he still made.
But, if there is not enough demand, it is not in his best interest to have his money tied up in parts that do not sell in any quantity.
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Probably not always true in my case. Most of the parts I have dropped thru the years (I don't think it is that many) were not profitable enough to keep making. Too much work and not enough profit. I have to keep the price of an item affordable. Instead of raising the price to a higher level that might upset people I stopped making some things. Tire covers are one. 88 steering damper is another. I have some items that only sell a few a year yet I keep them in stock. Some things I make and stock now are not worth it but I think many would be disappointed if I drop them. The poly trans mounts are just too much work for so little profit. But I just hate to raise the price anymore. Popular item.

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i would like this argument between rodney and i to not affect the thread or other members here. rodney if you have things positive or negative to say please pm me and not waste everyone else's time. thank you in advance. mike in oklahoma


No argument. Just stating the facts. I hardly think I wasted anyone's time.

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Rodney,

I still miss your nice "Fiero GT" wheel center emblems, and your white "Fiero" brake caliper decals. My GT wheel center emblem is still surviving on the oil filler cap of the 3.4 in my Mera. I couldn't part with it when I sold my yellow 88 GT. Oh I forgot, I have one of your tire covers also.

For the Mera I would purchase a pair "Corporate Concepts" badges similiar to the "Pininifarina" emblems on the side of the 308. A "Corporate Concepts" decal that would fit on the center rectangular plastic part on the door still. How about some "Mera" brake caliper decals? Were the Fiero ones a issue with GM?

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Hi Dan, yes mine looks identical to yours in the picture, everything in every picture of the Mera's I've seen mine has. At this point its all mute

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Hmmm.... mine was a kit and the panel is seperate. That seam was filled on mine prior to the guide coat, now it's cracking. Good thing the final paint wasn't done yet. Perhaps not all kits are the same?




yeah, you are right...... thats my intention. to disqualify the one piece wrap around......if Cam383 has a one piece rear then its setteled.
for me, it is the easiest way to spot a kit. no harm, no foul. call it, reverse psycology

the Vin # will shed some light on the subject also. and notnto forget the lovely pictures......i love pics.

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How long before these would be available?



There are 2 options here. Reproduction molds do exist in the market today for 308 tail light lenses. I have seen these lenses before but not lately. They offered them in red and in amber/clear. It is just the lenses. Not too hard to make a backing to hold the bulbs. If one can find this manufacturer I'm sure they would be willing to make some in amber. I'm not sure if they would have Carello in them or not. There was a 400 series Ferrari that had an all amber 308 type lens back when. There are also some reproduction lens makers out there that can make molds for not too much and make us lenses for I'm sure a lot less than $250 each.


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the answer is after shipping/customs/fees/polishing i have approxiamately 81.00 per lense with my polishing time i would say 100.00 per lense in them.


I've imported parts from Canada and I have never paid any duty fees. To make us all happy show us this paper work.

If you are going to say it be ready to prove it.

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Hi Dan, yes mine looks identical to yours in the picture, everything in every picture of the Mera's I've seen mine has. At this point its all mute


great......see, i am in hope that you in fact have a 1987 Mera and i hope it is based on the SE. that will help me establish where in line i fall if indeed i have a Production Mera....so i need to fill a space with your car...hopefully also as a Fiero the 1987 SE model is limited in itsself. less that 4000.....that cool, no?

all this tension here is killing me......so i chose to ignore it.
but let it be known...... if this thread gets "Trash Canned".....there will be hell to pay.

or i had better get me some printer Ink fast to print all these pages out....hahahahaaaaaa

lighten up yall.....

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if jimmy knows where his 308 molds are why did they want one from me? anyhow...



Because he does not know where they are:

Talking to Jimmy he thought his old 308 molds were somewhere in Toronto.

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On another subject...... I'm still on the hunt for a 328 lower front valence. Don sold his molds to Jimmy and Sue quoted me some absurd price for the spoiler, quoted an equally absurd price for the upper spoiler that goes above the rear window so I politely excused myself from the whole ordeal. If anyone has a source for the lower valence, please let me know.

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Hi all, I'm not jumping on anyone, but from the facts on Mera's mine lines up...at this point I don't even care anymore...its just a cool frigen car and one I will add and sell from my many. I am no way in love with it or gonna die over it, just want to know what its worth and who has parts. I always regret getting on forums and heres another shinning example, everyone knows it all. When the creator of the car tells me its not one of his I'll believe it, as for anyone else its merely speculation as no one has hard facts only assumptions, or what seems to be the norm. As for Mike, I think its your attitude that creates your issues not the other people, who cares if you think its a Mera or not I would think you like money and would want to sell them regardless. Rodney is obviously mad cause you gave out misguided info of his parts and it appears its not the first time, but thats not my business, so I'm out on it. I just don't like being jerked around, when I am trying to do business with someone. So as far as weakness for an apology...I don't really care, your in Ok. I'm in Fl. and retards fight and argue on the web, I am not a retard and quite confident in my manhood to not worry of idle threats. Weather a Mera or not they are all kits. I AM ABOUT MONEY IF i HAVE SOMETHING OR PRODUCE SOMETHING i DON'T CARE WHAT YOU USE IT FOR AS LONG AS YOU PAY ME. Again I have been in the automotive business all my life and if you make $125.00 hr in a shop...you go boy, cause dealers get 90.00 so I'm confused and private owners make far less. I'm out I have work to do and money to make, You all be good, Rodney I will be calling you and Jimmy thanks..thats what these forums are about helping each other. Good night

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While most of these cars tend to look similar, I disagree with the statement that production Mera's are "kits". I purchased mine based on it being an actual Mera. That is what I wanted, and I researched the cars to the best of my ability. Although there are some very nice "kits" out there, that is not what I was looking for. The Mera was never sold as a "kit" and could only be purchased new thru a Ponitac dealer. To me that does not make an actual Mera a "kit" but rather "conversion vehicle" like other tuner vehicles. Firehawk, Roush Mustang, etc. These vehicles had to be purchased new thru a dealer, and were not assembled by the owner. You could buy parts from SLP, Roush, etc to add to your regular Firebird or Mustang, but to have an acutal production version, you had to buy it new thru the dealer. Each vehicle was usually numbered and reatined much better value due to its exclusivity if properly maintained. All Meras are numbered and have a production ID securely attached to the underside of the rear decklid.

Cam, if your car truly is an 86 Mera, you may have all of us one upped as far as exclusivity. The history was wrong about my car, but you are going to need hard proof that more than one 86 Mera was actually produced in order to claim that it is. Otherwise, just enjoy your "kit" for what it is. There are some fantastic ones out there. I give a lot of respect to those owners that actually assembled them on their own.

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I never even knew about the "Stinger". To me it is the best kit out there after seeing it . I would have been completly fooled by one. If I had the time and expertise, I would have liked to build one, but that is not the case for me. I saw a Mera brand new, and for years that is the car I wanted. Enough for me to finally sell my one of only 241 built yellow 88 GT. It went to a great home so I don't feel so bad. While the Mera is not a real 308, it is a blast to drive, and a body style that still turns heads everywhere I go.

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Funny Mike my Porsche only mechanic doesn't charge close to that to work on my Cayenne, but to each their own. I've learned in life people who talk about how much they make are usually compensating..thats just my life lesson learned. A big dose of reality no ones title says Mera they say Fiero, so weather you bought from a dealer or put it together yourself or bought it put together..bottom line its another cars body on a Fiero making it a kit...non factory non original equipment, a copy...hence why Ferrari won the lawsuit. As I've mentioned in previous posts this car was given to me, never had a great desire or insight to own one, but wasn't gonna crush a cool car like this. I came on here to learn about what I acquired not have a pissing contest, I appreciate the input from all wheather positive or negative. As for the badge I have made several remarks to the fact that this car was destroyed by a Hurricane and most parts damaged if not destroyed, along with the deck lid which is where the badge is mounted. Which the previous owner attempted to repair and has stripped down to bare fiberglass and has lost or misplaced most pieces. My plans to determine what I really have is to run a title history find the original owner and hopefuly track them down and inquire about the car to find out its origin. Until I know from them everything else is just speculations, once I have a solid answer I will post a solid reply. I apologize if I offended anyone here, just wanted some info and parts, not to have someone attempt to take advantage of me based on their need to feel superior to others. Dan this is a great post and do not want it canned either, I really really apprecite all your help brother, sent you pics and look forward to talking to ya again, Rick thanks for your input as well, Rodney thanks your tip to Jimmy and Sue paid off great and I will deffinately be getting in touch with you. Night all.

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