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Topic: newest project
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DustoneGT
Member Posts: 1252
From: The U.S. Superstate
Registered: Dec 2002
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That is starting to look a lot like a vega or monza wagon, just with a much cooler front nose on it.that looks like a lot of effort going into the car. How does the 12 inch stretch affect handling and drivability?
Is this going to be a drag car? IP: Logged |
bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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 here are some pics of the front gear drive dist for the northstar will be installing it this week end IP: Logged |
TaurusThug
Member Posts: 4269
From: Simpsonville, SC
Registered: Aug 2003
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make it go VROOOMMMMM!!!------------------
'86 Fiero GT
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mrfixit58
Member Posts: 3326
From: Seffner, Fl, USA
Registered: Jul 99
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| | | quote | | Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: here are some pics of the front gear drive dist for the northstar will be installing it this week end |
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Bubbajoe,
Did you make that sprocket or is it a modified cam sprocket? Great work,
Roy
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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that is a modified sprocket no need to make a new one ------------------
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mckay_lee
Member Posts: 121
From: St George, UT
Registered: May 2001
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HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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Bump this sucker, any updates?------------------
Don Hites
88 GT, Getrag 5spd, 4.9 v8 with a Delta cam and other heavy mods.
88 Coupe 5spd Duke
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Sootah
Member Posts: 2457
From: St. George, Utah
Registered: May 2001
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Gokart Mozart
Member Posts: 6679
From: Metro Detroit
Registered: Mar 2003
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HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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Bump, and any updates?------------------
Don Hites
88 GT, Getrag 5spd, 4.9 v8 with a Delta cam and other heavy mods.
88 Coupe 5spd Duke
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Ottawa_86gt
Member Posts: 230
From: Ottawa
Registered: May 2002
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AHHH! Gawd no! it's the Fiero/Civic! Nooooooooooooo!
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Sootah
Member Posts: 2457
From: St. George, Utah
Registered: May 2001
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C'mon nah, time for an update.IP: Logged |
HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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Any news?IP: Logged |
fieroturbo
Member Posts: 1061
From: Currently stationed in Brunswick, ME
Registered: Jan 2003
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I didn't bother reading pages 2-5, cause I'm lazy, tired, and exhausted. So if someone mentioned this, I'm sorry.If you're going to stretch the frame by 12", why not do a longitudal engine conversion? You know, instead of the engine going sideways, have it go front to back. You could get a Porsche transaxle (AND MOTOR!!!), and work from there. Held motor sports has a cradle to mount those, maybe you could get that and modify it. Just a thought.  ------------------
Nitrously yours,
Airman Michael C Casaceli
United States Navy
Will work for Race legal HKS boost controller and custom ECM. [This message has been edited by fieroturbo (edited 01-05-2004).] IP: Logged |
bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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complete pics of the new ignition system tomorrow night ib bad shape right now
bad back so have to slow down for a while JoeIP: Logged |
HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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| | | quote | | If you're going to stretch the frame by 12", why not do a longitudal engine conversion? |
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He is, he's using a Porshe transaxle. ------------------
Don Hites
88 GT, Getrag 5spd, 4.9 v8 with a Delta cam and other heavy mods.
88 Coupe 5spd Duke
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HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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| | | quote | | bad back so have to slow down for a while Joe |
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Understood, no project is worth doing if you have to kill yourself in the process! I assume your working in a heated garage?IP: Logged |
HitesFiero
Member Posts: 369
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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Hows your back?------------------
Don Hites
88 GT, Getrag 5spd, 4.9 v8 with a Delta cam and other heavy mods.
88 Coupe 5spd Duke
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Howard_Sacks
Member Posts: 1871
From: Cherry Hill, NJ
Registered: Apr 2001
  
  
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You ever try Tai Chi Joe?Seriously. | | | quote | | Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: bad back so have to slow down for a while Joe |
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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been in ruff shape since Xmas have done little work on the body but have finished the ignition plat and now working on the trans adapter but slow no heated garage for me have to bear the cold and snow will try to get some pics as soon as I can stand long enough JoeIP: Logged |
Master Tuner Akimoto
Member Posts: 2267
From: South Florida,USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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Total ratings: 271
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Get better soon Joe wish you the best.------------------
Tuners of the Quickest 4.9
12.51@118 mph 4.5/4.9 (RSR)Hi Perf. Caddi-V8 Fully Blueprint&Balanced Rotating Assembly
Custom Intake Manifold
Custom Machined Heads
Victor Reinz Head Gaskets
50-150HP Nos Power Shot.
Holley 510-0-4412C Carb. IP: Logged |
bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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Master Tuner Akimoto Thank you I hope so I want to get back to the build free of aganizing painIP: Logged |
Raydar
Member Posts: 24106
From: West ATL GA 'burbs Douglasville
Registered: Oct 1999
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Wow. Haven't checked this for a while.
Take care, Joe. People who have never had back pain just don't understand how bad it can hurt.  Hopefully, you'll get better soon.
Cool project! Nice work! ------------------
Raydar
88 3.4 coupe.
Coming soon...
88 Formula, presently under the knife. IP: Logged |
bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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 as you can see here have started to make up the trans adaptor
out of 3/4 6061-T6 aluminum
in this pic you can see where the stock fiero slave has been mounted to actuate the porsche clutch arm finish trimming of the adaptor will be completed when all the nessesary components are mounted
 space is a premmium with the water pump so some minor trimming was requiered
 Bob and I spent the last 2 days getting this far work is slow but I will be getting there soon[This message has been edited by bubbajoexxx (edited 01-24-2004).] IP: Logged |
STRATOHACKER
Member Posts: 820
From: Columbus, OH U.S.A
Registered: Jun 2003
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Awesome !!!! What a unique car you are building and it should go like stink IP: Logged |
NotAFieroAnyLonger
Member Posts: 4413
From: 75762/Texas/USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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Are you trying to drag the project out like me..???  hahahaLooking GREAT Joe! ------------------
AKA. "SmoothGT"....
Custom Built SHAVED~WIDEBODY~GT!!
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PURPLE REIGN
Member Posts: 3571
From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold
Registered: Sep 2002
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| | | quote | | Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger: Are you trying to drag the project out like me..??? hahaha Looking GREAT Joe! |
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uh huh..........and what's your excuse smooth ? IP: Logged |
Fierobsessed
Member Posts: 3924
From: Las Vegas, NV
Registered: Dec 2001
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OMFG. That looks to be one of the most interesting Motor Transmission setups for a Fiero yet. Will be very interesting to see it go.IP: Logged |
jstricker
Member Posts: 12097
From: Russell, KS USA
Registered: Apr 2002
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Joe,Maybe this isn't your point, but I don't see that you're going to be saving a lot of money with the new ignition front mounted. The distributor is going to be about +/- $300, you need to fab the gear to the intermediate sprocket, billet timing cover, (the one pictured is $160 from CHRFab), mod that for the distributor, then you have to address the fuel delivery. If you want to go carb, the only carb intake I know of is from CHRFab and that's $525, then you have to by a carb for another $200. I don't know what the machining cost of the components would be (for someone to have it hired done) but I know that $250 doesn't go very far for precision work like this. That makes the total cost around $1435. You can buy the Holley Commander system, Plug and Play, from CHRFab for $1,495. I certainly understand if you're doing this just because it's fun and you want to, more power to you, but I saw a couple of posts talking about this being an economical alternative and I don't see it being one (not to mention I can't imagine the distributor front mounted fitting in a transverse installation anyway, but it could be made to run off the WP drive possible). John Stricker
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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jstricker
as you can see here is the front drive dist cost for every thing $400 can.
as for the fuel system i made my own manifold
 
and set it up with DELLORTOS
thats one carb per cylinder as dellortos are 2carbs with a common float bowl
as each carb has its own settings for each barrel cost $400.can
CHFAB these parts would cost me (manifold 650 US thats 990 can. ignition HPV! 600 thats 940.can.
by the time I get them so I have saved plenty
and to use Design ! Nstar setup thats 3000+ no thanks[This message has been edited by bubbajoexxx (edited 11-13-2006).] IP: Logged |
Nashco
Member Posts: 4085
From: Portland, OR
Registered: Dec 2000
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Even if there were cheaper routes, I still think that four carb setup would be worth it. It looks SWEET! I'm not much of a fan of carburetion, but no self-respecting gearhead can't show appreciation for that much complexity. Bryce
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jstricker
Member Posts: 12097
From: Russell, KS USA
Registered: Apr 2002
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Joe,I hope you didn't take my comments wrong. I certainly understand why you did it the way you are. First off, you have the capability and the tools to do the machine work, and there's a busload of it in the quality work you've done. Second, you're not daunted by having to fabricate things. Believe me, I know where you're coming from. I was told that I couldn't use the late model Northstar Throttle Body on the early, magnesium intake manifold, but I have it done and ready to go. My point was that for OTHER, more human (as opposed to superhuman ) hobbiests, it wouldn't figure out to be very cost effective, I don't think. Whatever *I* think about it's cost effectiveness, you're doing some beautiful work and it's going to be a unique transplant (not to mention the rest of the car). I'm enjoying the thread immensely. John Stricker
| | | quote | | Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: jstricker as you can see here is the front drive dist cost for every thing $400 can.
as for the fuel system i made my own manifold
and set it up with DELLORTOS
thats one carb per cylinder as dellortos are 2carbs with a common float bowl
as each carb has its own settings for each barrel cost $400.can CHFAB these parts would cost me (manifold 650 US thats 990 can. ignition HPV! 600 thats 940.can.
by the time I get them so I have saved plenty
and to use Design ! Nstar setup thats 3000+ no thanks |
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virii01
Member Posts: 515
From: Lincoln, NE, USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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...looks around the room....
....wait for it..
....wait for it...
BUMP
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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NEWEST PICS SO FAR 
ENGINE AND TRANS CONNECTED 
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meximan
Junior Member Posts: 10
From: Austin Texas USA
Registered: Feb 2004
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I would try it without the quarter window.IP: Logged |
Rickady88GT
Member Posts: 3415
From: Central CA
Registered: Dec 2002
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Wow that is cool
That tranny looks small, and the bell housing makes it look like the flywheel is micro sized.
I like it so far.------------------
Rickady88GT QuadCam 3.5 V6
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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just finished the shifter fore the porsche trans axle will post pics tomorrow night .
Have more to do tomorrow will have all the pivcs taken then so you will have a recient update IP: Logged |
fierodustin_86
Member Posts: 801
From: Joplin, Missouri
Registered: Aug 2002
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Just a little curious and I dont know if anyone else has asked or if I'm just ignorant, but does engine turn the right way for the trans? Will it all work? I actually have NO idea and would just like to know for furture reference.
dd------------------
 86 Fiero SE
email: fierodustin@yahoo.com
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bubbajoexxx
Member Posts: 1368
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Aug 2003
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the trans I am using is mid engine and has the diff allready flipped , rear engine porsche 911 need to have the diff flipped overIP: Logged |
fierodustin_86
Member Posts: 801
From: Joplin, Missouri
Registered: Aug 2002
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thanks joeIP: Logged |
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