I have 4 sale the plates to bolt a chev motor in the rear of a fiero.
I have the 1" thick motor plate, to bolt the fiero stock trans to the chev V8.
I have the altenator bracket, and the front motor mount.
these are a copy of V8 archie's kit.
they have been machined from 44W high strength steel, on a CNC machine.
I work at a machine shop, so the parts are made exactly to the original.
feel free to contact me with any questions.

www.ripnet.com/fieroparts

email fieroparts@ripnet.com

$400 USD
$450 canadian.
ship to anywhere.
ship to USA is approx. $80.00 US

chris

Seems to me any one can get both bolt patterns and make a plate, why would you need to copy someone else's work? Not only that but you state that its an exact copy at that.
I'm all for competition but do it of your own merit, don't just make copies of someone else's work and sell it.

Look, go back to your shop, draw up some designs and make a product you can put your name on.
Hell put your copy on a sheet of paper and trace it out, then smooth it out, make it look more like the it is part of the tranny and not a plate used to bolt to parts together that don't belong bolted together.

Sorry if this is harsh, I have had a bad couple of days.

quote Originally posted by salmonfieros: I have 4 sale the plates to bolt a chev motor in the rear of a fiero. I have the 1" thick motor plate, to bolt the fiero stock trans to the chev V8. I have the altenator bracket, and the front motor mount. these are a copy of V8 archie's kit. they have been machined from 44W high strength steel, on a CNC machine. I work at a machine shop, so the parts are made exactly to the original. feel free to contact me with any questions. www.ripnet.com/fieroparts email fieroparts@ripnet.com $400 USD $450 canadian. ship to anywhere. ship to USA is approx. $80.00 US chris

Uh... Salmon.... this looks like you just admitted to copyright infringement. Got an attorney? Might want to line one up.

[This message has been edited by Doc John (edited 06-10-2007).]

quote Originally posted by HellYes:

Why if he wants to be part of the Fiero community then he will make this right, if he is just wanting to make a quick buck he will just come back with a different name.

This is a rip off!!! $400 for three chunks of steel he copied off someone else. I bet he got paid while he was making them.
Buyer beware!!!

I have one that I'm willing to part with, includes all of the above, ram style manifolds, bolts and everything. Mountin the starter is made a little easier with the kit I have (and was going to use), you don't have to cut into the transmission.

Anyway, shoot me an email if you're interested with a reasonable price, dankuzma@hotmail.com

Salmon -

I'm not an attorney, but I work with a whole gaggle of them:

17 U.S.C. 501 -
17 U.S.C. 513 These cover copyright infringement. Take a look at s. 506 - $2500 fine. S 509 could potentially go after the tooling or shop.

18 U.S.C. 2319 is also relevant. This one comes with jail time!

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I'm just informing you of the potential implications. Be real careful.

[This message has been edited by Doc John (edited 06-17-2007).]

Just change somthing about it and they will go away . Some are just mad they had to ask the wife if they could spend 2,000
on the other guys kit.Now if you could of sold them the same kit for 500.00 they would be all over it.The way I look at it is like this most body kits are a copy of a highend car just open your eyes we are all in the wrong.Also even if you made you own kit they would say its a copy .
Just my 2 cent

[This message has been edited by luckesc4vett (edited 06-18-2007).]

quote Originally posted by luckesc4vett: Just change somthing about it and they will go away . Some are just mad they had to ask the wife if they could spend 2,000 on the other guys kit.Now if you could of sold them the same kit for 500.00 they would be all over it.The way I look at it is like this most body kits are a copy of a highend car just open your eyes we are all in the wrong.Also even if you made you own kit they would say its a copy . Just my 2 cent

lol so if we would have started with his kit it would have cost less? Where is the fly wheel? Starter block? I didnt pay full price for my kit, and I didn't open my mouth because I did. Its theft when you steal someone else's ideas and make money on it. I wouldn't have said a word if he wouldn't have blatantly stated its a copy of an Archie kit. Now for ever more anything he sells will have that shadow on it.

Im not trying to start anything but when I see the word lawyer. Please give it a rest.You can easy just say (I was just joking or I wanted to see how many people I can get to cry.I have to say that if it was me I would just make them for myself this way knowone can get upset with me.I know it hurts because some of you had to pay so much for that steel plate and flywheel
but not everyone can do this.Some would like to have that a car down the road with the v8 in it or maybe thats all they have is a car with big dreams.So to the guys that are trying to make things happen for yourself I say do what you have to do to make things cheaper for yourself.Take a look at all the big dogs building race cars and replicas, boats thay all copy each others parts Thats how this world works.Now we all should know that archie is not the first to build a v8 kit and yes he to has done his work but it was not his idea and yes he must of seen (the other guys ) kit so that is how he came up with his so called v8 kit.yes he has done more to make his kit work for the home builder but he did not come up with it.I do think he has done a very good job of holding off the copy cats but its only going to last for so long.

This blatant piracy is like inviting Chinese business ethics to the good ole USA.

Salmon, Sloth85GT, and luckesc4vette, how does it feel to be a friggin idiot?

Ill take 2.

competition only makes you stronger and if thats somthing you cant deal with well remember only the strong will live on.
Archies kit is the best kit out there so. I dont think he has anything to worry about so let him copy the plates.
Archie comes with every thing ,video and a number to call .Now can he top that ( no)
so y worry or make this a case.

Also I dont go around calling names because thats just not me but if it makes you feel like a big man good for you.
And we know who im talking about.Just try to grow up just a little.

[This message has been edited by luckesc4vett (edited 06-18-2007).]

Competition is not stealing someone else's work and copying it.

But I find it amazing that salmonfieros and luckesc4vett both have the same typing style in their posts. It's almost as if ... *gasp* ... they were typed by the same person.

I dont think so Im from Pa.I dont run around in a fiero I just use them for building lambo replicas.
Like I was saying we all steal.Now lets look at the fiero its a poor mans corvette.Did pont steal the body style from chevy I would think so.Is there a body kit out there that looks just like the corvette (yes)Call it what you want we all do it. I think your just mad someone has done it and you cant,
I can tell you this there are alot of people buying the 500,00 set up so that goes to show you that people are looking to do this cheap.(SO STEAL IT IS ) Dont get mad at me I have my own set up !!!!!!!!!!!!!

quote Originally posted by luckesc4vett: I don't think so I'm from Pa.I don't run around in a fiero I just use them for building lambo replicas. Like I was saying we all steal.Now lets look at the fiero its a poor mans corvette.Did pont steal the body style from chevy I would think so.Is there a body kit out there that looks just like the corvette (yes)Call it what you want we all do it. I think your just mad someone has done it and you cant, I can tell you this there are alot of people buying the 500,00 set up so that goes to show you that people are looking to do this cheap.(SO STEAL IT IS ) Dont get mad at me I have my own set up !!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are so willing to support this then what is the name of your business? It wouldn't take more than 30 minutes of work to make the plate look different then the one Archie sells, then he can put his own name on it. Read my first post, all I said was to make a change and put his own name on it.
Do I want something from someone that cant take a few minutes to make a product his own?
The bolt patterns are common knowledge and if you have access to the machines to make them it shouldn't be a big deal to make the kit without copying someone else's.

Being a copy cat and installing a v-8 is one thing.
Copying (reproduceing) someone's work and research is another!!!!!!!!!
There is allot more to this swap than people realize here.
JMO

I'm not a thief, and many here are not also!!

[This message has been edited by GKDINC (edited 06-19-2007).]

Slow down folks. No one even knows if Archie has a copy right or patent on that and I am betting he doesn't. Even if he does some things are not covered as there can be minor things to make it different. Just making note as ""Internet self made Lawyers"" make all kinds of talk but nothing rarely happens.

If Archie has a Patent on it or copy right you blew his chance of anything as no one bought it to proof anything anyhooooo. Just some thoughts to think about. Rick

Do you offer a copy of the SBC to go along with this Copied V-8 install kit? Seems easy enough to me if this is what you do!

logged onto his site and phoned today to enquire about an engine cradle was quoted $450 CND ??...

quote Originally posted by SuperchargedV6: Slow down folks. No one even knows if Archie has a copy right or patent on that and I am betting he doesn't. Even if he does some things are not covered as there can be minor things to make it different. Just making note as ""Internet self made Lawyers"" make all kinds of talk but nothing rarely happens. If Archie has a Patent on it or copy right you blew his chance of anything as no one bought it to proof anything anyhooooo. Just some thoughts to think about. Rick

Its the blatant way he stated it was a direct copy of Archie's kit.
He could have made some changes and stated it does the same thing as Archie's kit and I would have only asked for a picture

I understand I was just making a few good points. He seems to be a scum bagging thief who sells stuff way above price. Rick

quote Originally posted by luckesc4vett: Im not trying to start anything but when I see the word lawyer. Please give it a rest.You can easy just say (I was just joking or I wanted to see how many people I can get to cry.I have to say that if it was me I would just make them for myself this way knowone can get upset with me.I know it hurts because some of you had to pay so much for that steel plate and flywheel but not everyone can do this.Some would like to have that a car down the road with the v8 in it or maybe thats all they have is a car with big dreams.So to the guys that are trying to make things happen for yourself I say do what you have to do to make things cheaper for yourself.Take a look at all the big dogs building race cars [band replicas, boats thay all copy each others parts Thats how this world works.Now we all should know that archie is not the first to build a v8 kit and yes he to has done his work but it was not his idea and yes he must of seen (the other guys ) kit so that is how he came up with his so called v8 kit.yes he has done more to make his kit work for the home builder but he did not come up with it.I do think he has done a very good job of holding off the copy cats but its only going to last for so long.

Archies kit is completely different than the kits that were out there before him. He didn't copy anything. And the "well, we can't all afford a archie kit." defense is total BS. The reason good people like Archie can stay in business is that there are just enough honest people not ripping them off to make it worth it. Also, you are comparing apples to oranges. This kit doesn't even include everything in the budget archie kit, and you want to hold it up next to the master build kit.

* Engine/Trans. Adapter Plate 6061 Aluminum
* Front Engine Mount
* A/C Mount
* Alternator Mount
* Torque Strut Rod
* Starter Mounting Block
* Harmonic Balancer Pulley
* Custom Billet Flywheel
* Fasteners as Required
* Printed & Video Instructions

$950

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quote Originally posted by CTFieroGT87: This blatant piracy is like inviting Chinese business ethics to the good ole USA. Salmon, Sloth85GT, and luckesc4vette, how does it feel to be a friggin idiot?

First of all, go **** yourself. I didn't make the kit and I also stated it is an IMPROVEMENT over his kit, not a direct copy. A flaw was found that the maker of the kit improved on.

So before you go bashing someone, think through what you're saying. This is a kit I purchased to from a friend that made a few for a couple of us, NOT a reseller, NOT to make a profit. I gave up on my V8 project and sold off my Fieros, I still have the kit and think it would be good to get rid of so someone else can make use of it and all of my money doesn't go to waste.

Thank you for your time.

So if anyone IS interested in the kit, let me know via pm or preferrably email.

I am willing to bet the images taken from the fierostore are not used with permission and his website should be shut down. How hard is it to take a picture?

Archie will have his followers to back him up as well as his products.

Salmon just take an engraving gun and place an autograph on each price...copyright infringement solved. Just like music, make 1 single change problem solved.

The price of both "kits" is bullsh!t. These parts don't cost sh!t to be made.

Archie will be there for any tech support. So if you need support call Archie for his "kit" if not go with Salmon's "kit".

quote Originally posted by Doc John: Salmon - I'm not an attorney, but I work with a whole gaggle of them: 17 U.S.C. 501 - 17 U.S.C. 513 These cover copyright infringement. Take a look at s. 506 - $2500 fine. S 509 could potentially go after the tooling or shop. 18 U.S.C. 2319 is also relevant. This one comes with jail time! I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I'm just informing you of the potential implications. Be real careful.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that copyright infringement only covered protected material in print only. You can't copyright a product. You can protect it with a patent, but is not covered by copyright.

first of all, i didn't create this nice little article.

I HAVE EMAILED THE MODERATOR, AND HE WILL LOOK INTO WHO STARTED THIS NICE LITTLE THREAD.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO, BUT BREAK INTO OTHER PEOPLES ACCOUNTS, GET A LIFE LOOSERS!

I own a machine shop, and have made these from scratch, its not hard to do with a 1/2 million dollar CMM assholes!
and a nice laser cutting machine.

anyways, i am leaving this thread up for the moderator to see, and he will get to the bottom of this fake, co artist, who has nothing better to do than creat **** .

rock on, and if anyone wants a kit, contact me outside this unsafe site!

chris

I'll take plausible deniability for $100, Alex.

4 months ago... dang, let it die...

people here need to get off archie's nuts already, its rediculous