just say "thanks but you're not my type" and move on. or sue for sexual harassment. your choice. but remember this next time you're ogling some female. now you know how it feels to be a piece of meat.
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Well this is probably a completely inappropriate post for PFF, even in O/T. Did you not consider that there are potentially fellow members that are of the LGBT community here on PFF, and you did a amazing job of pretty much calling them some fairly bad names and lumping them all together? You probably could have worded your frustration in a much more eloquent manner.
Good job.
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Well this is probably a completely inappropriate post for PFF, even in O/T. Did you not consider that there are potentially fellow members that are of the LGBT community here on PFF, and you did a amazing job of pretty much calling them some fairly bad names and lumping them all together? You probably could have worded your frustration in a much more eloquent manner.
Good job.
Whatever, dude...Ya still aint kissing me....I'll work on a car/trailer/plane with ya.....and then go find a fenale....
Well this is probably a completely inappropriate post for PFF, even in O/T. Did you not consider that there are potentially fellow members that are of the LGBT community here on PFF, and you did a amazing job of pretty much calling them some fairly bad names and lumping them all together? You probably could have worded your frustration in a much more eloquent manner.
Good job.
I have to agree MEM
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Fats Member
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Some here might not like the OP's homo rant but why on earth would anybody think some guy putting his lips on an unwilling stranger is acceptable behavior in any way or fashion?. What possible excuses can you possibly come up with?
I think the guy deserved a royal ass kicking yet also commend the OP for not doing it.
Did you think he was trying to tell you a secret or what?
If someone was getting that close to me in a public space, I think I would notice before their lips touched my cheek. (Unless it was the cheek Yellowstone was talking about, then I could see how you didn't see him coming.)
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Generally, all the gay, trans people I know are very respectful of everyone. All the dancers I know like going out to gay clubs because they arent hit on constantly by guys like at straight clubs. If girls hit on them, they just say theyre not interested and they walk away. I think you caught a total freak by chance.
Maybe it was Ls3Mach....I hear he likes boys/men.
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Spending as much time in Europe and Africa as I have, I've gotten used to getting kissed by women and men. Doesn't bother me a bit. I appreciate the affection.....and my image of my masculinity ain't quite that fragile.
Besides, I've never had someone kiss me on both cheeks and then say "Okay, that's over....let's go screw!"
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Well this is probably a completely inappropriate post for PFF, even in O/T. Did you not consider that there are potentially fellow members that are of the LGBT community here on PFF, and you did a amazing job of pretty much calling them some fairly bad names and lumping them all together? You probably could have worded your frustration in a much more eloquent manner.
Good job.
Too bad! A shame if it hurt their feelings, awwww.
People who tend to be the most publicly hostile towards others, although a personal issue, are most likely playing a deniability defense that perhaps is that they themselves are what they hate.
Sort of like Hitler who hated Jews and Homos was probably a Jew and Homo himself.
MEM plays this good game about his conquest of women (for which he cannot keep a long term relationship with women) and his multiple intimate dealings with homos, leads me to believe that you (MEM) are in fact a Homo.
I have a good friend that is gay. We have many times gone out to have lunch, hit the gym and many years ago during my college days have even had drinks with him at the gay clubs. Not once had he or any gay person hit on me, even drunk. Maybe I'm ugly, but maybe because I'm hetro.
For the most part, Homos and Hetros can recognize each other. So if a gay man said you were cute and kissed you, its because he recognized you were gay.
Come out of the closet bro. Just because you are gay, doesn't make you loose man points or that you can't be macho. With the exception of the hyper-religious creeps here on PFF and everywhere else, nobody isn't going to think differently about you.
You are still kicking azz cool in my book. But just drop the facade and come out. You will feel a whole lot better about yourself.
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Maybe he's not 'brokeback mountain', maybe he just likes ridin' horses,plain 'n simple. Or ridin' whorses. Or maybe he wants a hourse horse to ride HIM?
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Originally posted by Wichita: People who tend to be the most publicly hostile towards others, although a personal issue, are most likely playing a deniability defense that perhaps is that they themselves are what they hate. Sort of like Hitler who hated Jews and Homos was probably a Jew and Homo himself.
I think it's altogether very likely that Hitler's DNA (is it recoverable from any artifacts that are still in Russia?) would reveal that part of his lineage goes back to people who were very possibly Jewish in the religious sense, given what's known today about groups of people and how they migrated throughout the world.
There's long been speculation that the biological father of Hitler's father was Jewish (in the religious sense), but no one has ever credibly established this as fact.
I don't believe that Hitler's anti-Semitism arose out of any kind of deniability defense--what psychologists would call "projection"--because Hitler consciously or subconsciously perceived anything "Jewish" about himself. There are more straightforward explanations, that (via Occam's Razor) make far more sense to me:
Hitler's virulent anti-Semitism was not manifested anywhere in the historical record until after he was demobilized from the German army at the end of World War One. Hitler lived in Vienna as a young adult (age 19-24) during the years before World War One, and I think that anyone who wants to dissect the origins of Hitler's anti-Semitism needs to focus primarily on this period:
Hitler in Vienna
Hitler lived in Vienna between February 1908 and May 1913. He had grown up in a middle-class family, with relatively few contacts with Jewish people, in a region of the Habsburg state in which many German nationalists had been disappointed that the German Empire founded in 1871 had not included the German-speaking regions of the Habsburg Monarchy. Yet the legacy of the Vienna years is not as clear as Hitler depicted it in his political autobiography. His impoverishment and residence in homeless shelters began only a year after his arrival and after he had frittered away a generous inheritance left by his parents and rejected all arguments of surviving relatives and family friends that he embark upon a career in the civil service.
By the end of 1909, Hitler knew real poverty as his sources of income dried up. That winter, however, helped briefly by a last gift from his aunt, he began to paint watercolor scenes of Vienna for a business partner and made enough to live on until he departed for Munich in 1913. It is likely that Hitler experienced and possible that he shared the general antisemitism common among middle-class German nationalists. Nevertheless, he had personal and business relationships with Jews in Vienna and was, at times, dependent in part on Jews for his living. This may have been a cause for discretion about his actual feelings about Jews. It was not until after World War I that Hitler can be demonstrated to have adopted an “antisemitic” ideology.
Germanic Racialism and Anti-Semitism in Vienna
Hitler was genuinely influenced in Vienna by two political movements. The first was the German racist nationalism propagated by the Upper Austrian Pan-German politician Georg von Schönerer. The second key influence was that of Karl Lueger, Mayor of Vienna from 1897 to his death in 1910.
Still in power when Hitler arrived in Vienna, Lueger promoted an antisemitism that was more practical and organizational than ideological. Nevertheless, it reinforced anti-Jewish stereotypes and cast Jews as enemies of the German middle and lower classes. Finally, unlike Schönerer, who was always more comfortable with the elitist nationalism of the student fraternities, Lueger was comfortable with big city crowds and knew how to channel their protest into political gain. Hitler drew his ideology in large part from Schönerer, but his strategy and tactics from Lueger.
As far as the nature of Hitler's sexuality, much has been said, but I think that little is actually known with any certainty.
Generally, all the gay, trans people I know are very respectful of everyone. All the dancers I know like going out to gay clubs because they arent hit on constantly by guys like at straight clubs. If girls hit on them, they just say theyre not interested and they walk away. I think you caught a total freak by chance.
Maybe it was Ls3Mach....I hear he likes boys/men.
LMAO...Roger its not like I dont have buds who are as strage as 3-doller-bill (LOL, we actually enjoy the joking about it) and they know they dont even have to ask to get in my toolbox (no, not that toolbox ), just go for it........this one was so far out in left field its like WTF ?----If I did that to a woman I'd be in jail for sexual assult.
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
Some here might not like the OP's homo rant but why on earth would anybody think some guy putting his lips on an unwilling stranger is acceptable behavior in any way or fashion?. What possible excuses can you possibly come up with?
I think the guy deserved a royal ass kicking yet also commend the OP for not doing it.
Yeh, well...about that Red. I've learned over the years, punching somebody only breaks the bones in my fingers and hand, so I dont do it anymore. I LIKE being able to hold a cup of coffe with my hand. They just aint worth that coffee.
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