When did Marion Berry move to Canada and become Toronto's mayor. Saw Mayor Rob Fords acknowledgement of smoling crack this am, and brought back memory's of a former washington dc mayor. On a side note, Mike Holmes could be this guys brother, looking at pictures.
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partfiero Member
Posts: 6923 From: Tucson, Arizona Registered: Jan 2002
When I saw this, and he said he would not step down, one question popped in my tiny little brain, well maybe a few. Is it legal to smoke crack in Canada, and if so didn't he admit to breaking the law? And if so, why was he not arrested?
I also heard he may become even more popular because he came clean, even though he is more than likely not clean at all.
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Posts: 20708 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
When I saw this, and he said he would not step down, one question popped in my tiny little brain, well maybe a few. Is it legal to smoke crack in Canada, and if so didn't he admit to breaking the law? And if so, why was he not arrested?
I also heard he may become even more popular because he came clean, even though he is more than likely not clean at all.
He appears to be a pancake away from a heart attack. I'm sure drunken stupors and smoking crack doesn't help.
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Purple86GT Member
Posts: 1592 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
You can't sell it, you can't buy it, you can't have it in your possession, but if somehow you managed to smoke it... Well whatever.. Cannabis is even more lax! And we have "special clinics" for safe injections of illegal drugs... Yeah.. not sure how this all came to be.. I love my country but man, sometimes I have to *facepalm*
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by doublec4: I'm surprised at how much attention this has generated worldwide.
You do have a point. Politicians lying to voters is nothing new. Politicians having double standards for themselves is nothing new. Dog bites man ? Nothing new.
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
Originally posted by Purple86GT: Smoking crack here is a "grey area"
You can't sell it, you can't buy it, you can't have it in your possession, but if somehow you managed to smoke it... Well whatever.. Cannabis is even more lax! And we have "special clinics" for safe injections of illegal drugs... Yeah.. not sure how this all came to be.. I love my country but man, sometimes I have to *facepalm*
It's a constitutional thing....we DO have absoloute ownership ofour own bodies, so once anything is in there, nothing the law can do about it. You own You, they dont.....they just make it damn ill-eagle to get any stuff they dont like that far.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41355 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Although I feel smoking crack isn't appropriate for a mayor, I really don't care if he did it once or twice. As long as he didn't pay for it with tax payer money and isn't high while he's performing his duties.
It's funny how much of an uproar this has caused, and yet the rest of our politicians are involved in scandals, bribery, corruption, and outright incompetency. I can't even count how many of billions of dollars of tax money has been wasted by our politicians and nobody harasses them for more than a few days. They end up saying sorry for their blunder and there are no protests, no trials, no international news. Everyone bites the bullet and these idiots get away with it time after time. This guy does some drugs and the world acts like he dropped a nuke on an orphanage.
Maybe it's just me, but I think this is a pretty minor offence compared to the mistakes I've seen our other politicians make.
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Posts: 39065 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Although I feel smoking crack isn't appropriate for a mayor, I really don't care if he did it once or twice. As long as he didn't pay for it with tax payer money
He is the mayor. How would he pay for anything except with taxpayer money?
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This guy does some drugs and the world acts like he dropped a nuke on an orphanage.
Yeah, it's only money, or sex, or drugs, or tax evasion, or insider trading. What does the wrong mean? If none of these things are wrong, what is? If he has sex with your mother, or your sister, or your brother? He is just taking some drugs. Does he buy them from someone age 15? Is whatever it is ok as long as he keeps it quiet? Tell us, please, how far would a politician, or your neighbor, or your boss have to go before he/she has done something wrong?
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dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
You'd think so... but he's still the mayor of Toronto! This is a city with a population of over 2.6 million people, making it the largest city in Canada and the fourth most populous municipality in North America.
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
Yeah, it's only money, or sex, or drugs, or tax evasion, or insider trading. What does the wrong mean? If none of these things are wrong, what is? If he has sex with your mother, or your sister, or your brother? He is just taking some drugs. Does he buy them from someone age 15? Is whatever it is ok as long as he keeps it quiet? Tell us, please, how far would a politician, or your neighbor, or your boss have to go before he/she has done something wrong?
If he pays for crack with his personal salary, that's his decision. Whether he spends it on crack, hookers, beer or candy bars, it's his money and he's entitled to do as he pleases with it. Yes, his salary is paid for by the tax payers, I understand that, but he's entitled to his salary. It doesn't matter what happens to the money after he's been paid. Now, if he was using money not from his salary and was paying for crack with the city bank account, I'd be more upset.
I'm not disagreeing with you that what he did was wrong. It's pretty deplorable behavior by a mayor, or anyone in general. However, my point is that his actions have been morally wrong and I don't think there is a way that you can quantify the damage he's done in dollars and cents. If it wasn't for the media blowing this whole thing up, and people never knew he smoked crack, nothing would be different in Toronto. He didn't divert funds and kids didn't get text books this year, or roads didn't get fixed. There was no monetary loss and the city isn't short any funds or resources. At this point, we are only embarrassed and some people's feelings have been hurt.
Again, I don't agree with what he did, but to play the devil's advocate, I think there are many other issues of scandal/corruption/incompetence in our government that don't get nearly the attention that this has. These other issues have cost us billions of dollars and there is a direct loss to the city/province/country.
What I also see is that Rob Ford is not a lefty which doesn't help his situation when it comes to the media. Our local newspaper, the "Toronto Star" has always had it out for him and they'll go to any length to see him crash and burn. Their news columns about Ford are starting to look like those brainless/trashy gossip newspapers you see at the checkout line at the grocery store. We even have WWE wrestlers appearing at city hall to get on the news, challenging Ford to arm wrestles and whatever else. The media is turning it into a circus.
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dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
Was the media responsible for that incredible you tube video? I believe that personal drug use should be decriminalized, but that video portrayed him as an emotional train wreck. If drugs are what caused that behavior then his drug use is affecting his job and should be addressed. Crack is one of the drugs which I have no experience with, just going with his video behavior. Is that typical crack behavior?
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Patrick Member
Posts: 39065 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Did you observe Rob Ford holding a crack pipe in his right hand?
I can't believe you think this train wreck should remain in public office. He needs serious help.
I'm not suggesting he should stay in public office. At the very least, he needs to step away for a while and fix his personal issues. All I'm saying is that I think this is getting way more attention than it deserves. Other politicians have made other terrible decisions that actually have had a negative effect on the taxpayers (other than some hurt feelings) and it gets swept under the rug in a few days.
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David Hambleton Member
Posts: 1597 From: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2012
news around here (TO is 45 min away) says its swaering in Jamacian.
But I do agree wholeheartely with one of his news conference statements today.....what he does "off the clock" on his own time really IS none of his employers (in this case the publics) damn business.
I think every news report should use these graphics...It'll be hours before I stop laughing!
...any bets on who'll be next? 
This is a city with a population of over 2.6 million people, making it the largest city in Canada and the fourth most populous municipality in North America.
