I looked around online and found this is indeed true but the information I have found is spotty at best regarding what restaurants and states participate in a EBT fast food program. Looks like fast food chains have been taking EBT since 2005 in LosAngeles . I'm going to go live under my rock again, I liked my rock and my rock is not Government subsidized.

Let them use it at McDonald's all they want. The more unhealthy their choices, the less time they'll be on government assistance.
It's a self correcting problem.

Oh what irony, The Dems want to take extra money from the rich corporations and give it the less less fortunate only for the less fortunate to give it right back to the oh so nasty corps they voted to take it from.....Is this the circle of life the Lion King refers to??

quote Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000: Oh what irony, The Dems want to take extra money from the rich corporations and give it the less less fortunate only for the less fortunate to give it right back to the oh so nasty corps they voted to take it from.....Is this the circle of life the Lion King refers to??

Unless they're growing their own, how many options for buying food does anyone have that doesn't give money right back to "nasty corps?"

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Unless they're growing their own, how many options for buying food does anyone have that doesn't give money right back to "nasty corps?"

Many places without looking far, Farmers markets, small meat markets, Family owned diners and farms,etc...... I do not know how it is were you live but around here you can spit and hit a small business that is not a large global company like Mc Donald's. Food does not always come from large producers. In the past I have gone in with friends and bought a cow and had it cut up at a meat market, the cow came from a private farm feed with natural grass from that farm. If you can not find non corporate food your not trying.

quote Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000: Many places without looking far, Farmers markets, small meat markets, Family owned diners and farms,etc...... I do not know how it is were you live but around here you can spit and hit a small business that is not a large global company like Mc Donald's. Food does not always come from large producers. In the past I have gone in with friends and bought a cow and had it cut up at a meat market, the cow came from a private farm feed with natural grass from that farm. If you can not find non corporate food your not trying.

And they all avoid Monsanto?
I'm not saying you can't find "non-corporate" food, but pretty much anything at a grocery store does. Do you think farmer's markets take EBT cards? I don't know. Do your friends take an EBT when you bought that cow? Maybe the private farm did?

Keep in mind this thread is about someone on government assistance. (I did say "anyone" in my previous post, but I was primarily referring to people on assistance, and anyone else to a lesser extent - sorry for any confusion)

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Unless they're growing their own, how many options for buying food does anyone have that doesn't give money right back to "nasty corps?"

Back to this -->your question was: " How many options for buying food does ANYONE have that doesn't give money right back to the "Nasty corps"?" I was replying to that one word "Anyone" And yes here in Wisconsin EBT cards can be used for any approved food vendor including natural food suppliers. There is food stores here that have sections devoted to local growers and producers like the small dairy stores like lamers dairy store and some of the small family cheese factory's like union star cheese. They are around if one takes the time to look.

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For a few years, untill they were caught. The casinos in California allowed you to withdraw Cash,useing the EBT card.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Keep in mind this thread is from the perspective of someone on government assistance. (I did say "anyone" in my previous post, but I was primarily referring to people on assistance, and anyone else to a lesser extent - sorry for any confusion)

Are you saying Kris is on government assistance? Are you meaning your post if of someone on government assistance?

I can think of 10 locally owned (within 100 miles) grocery stores in my area. With at least 5 of them not being owned by the same (local) family. I know for certain these stores stock TONS of Made In Oklahoma products. They've branded it such MIO. Huge marketing campaign. I've also managed one of them and personally paid local farmers and growers for their food stuffs that we stocked in the produce department. Okra was a big one if I recall. Anyway, here, to my knowledge; EBT is take home food only. Nothing that has been prepared. Meaning the pizza place Papa Murphy's is exempt as their product is a fresh "take and bake" pizza. Quite delicious too. Not sure if their salads apply as I think that is pretty much ready to go.

Anyway. I'd hate to see it. Personally if you are getting any government assistance I think there should be very strict rules and restrictions about health, diet, working and living conditions. Don't like the rules. Pay your own way.

What before it comes, what about the babies? Extract them from people whom can't take care of themselves. They are doing those children a huge disservice as it is.

***Harsh and unrealistic. I just wish people would make responsible and sensible decisions for themselves and the ones that are dependent upon them. I only mean DIRECTLY dependent. Not their government dependencies at the rest of the populations expense.

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Anyone up for some sodomy?

Using a EBT card at a McDonalds would not be outside the realm of possible. The thing you have to realise is a EBT card in many states will carry 2 balances. One will be the food alotment and the other the cash aid alotment. The cash aid can be used anywhere, so purchasing fast food with it would be doable. They've done that to eliminate having to mail out checks. Instead your cash aid is available as a debit type transaction so you could go to a ATM and withdraw from that section of the EBT card. The food side of it however can only be used to purchase foods. So, while he may have used a EBT card to pay for the food at McDonalds, that doesn't mean he used the food stamp portion of it.

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quote Originally posted by ls3mach: Are you saying Kris is on government assistance? Are you meaning your post if of someone on government assistance?

Did you even read the tread? It's about someone buying food at McDonald's using an EBT card.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: I can think of 10 locally owned (within 100 miles) grocery stores in my area. With at least 5 of them not being owned by the same (local) family. I know for certain these stores stock TONS of Made In Oklahoma products. They've branded it such MIO. Huge marketing campaign. I've also managed one of them and personally paid local farmers and growers for their food stuffs that we stocked in the produce department. Okra was a big one if I recall

Ask them if they use any Monsanto products or other "big corp" feeds, seeds, fertilizers or pesticides. The big corporation isn't just the end point where the product is sold.
Farmer's Markets are probably your best opportunity, but even they have to use big corporation products to bring their product to market.

In my area my favorite "grocery store" is Earth Fare. They are a large company but offer local products when possible and strive to carry healthy foods.

quote As one of the largest natural food retailers in the nation, Earth Fare makes healthy eating convenient, affordable, fun and – of course – delicious! With 28 stores in eight states, we offer everything from ready-to-go meal options, local and organic farm fresh fruits and vegetables, and full service meat, poultry and seafood departments. Our Food Philosophy makes us different. What really sets Earth Fare apart from other stores is the list of things we don't offer...like any products containing high fructose corn syrup, artificial trans fats, artificial colors and sweeteners, and synthetic growth hormones in meat and milk. We believe food should be as close to the ground as it gets, and we are proud to read the labels so you don't have to!

http://www.earthfare.com/Company.aspx

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quote Originally posted by Khw: Using a EBT card at a McDonalds would not be outside the realm of possible. The thing you have to realise is a EBT card in many states will carry 2 balances. One will be the food alotment and the other the cash aid alotment. The cash aid can be used anywhere, so purchasing fast food with it would be doable. They've done that to eliminate having to mail out checks. Instead your cash aid is available as a debit type transaction so you could go to a ATM and withdraw from that section of the EBT card. The food side of it however can only be used to purchase foods.

This is a perfect exploitation for my question. Thank you however there is still the shocking reality that EBT is now accepted at a fast food establishments all across the US and this just more abuse. I remember when Whole Foods posted a sign saying they now accept EBT cards....Whole Foods is a store you go into and walk out with a bag of grocery's and not a penny left to your name, you would think someone on food stamps would buy lower quality food's to sustain a longer food supply for the future. I know if I was on food stamps I would buy a lot of simple and cheap food so I knew where the next meal was coming from, I could care less if it went back into feeding the "nasty corps". There are plenty of ways to get food without feeding the evil corporations who process food and then sell it. As LS3 stated there are plenty of mom and pop stores that accept it. I have never been on EBT so I dont know the rules, just what ive read online it just see a disturbing trend of lawmakers making it easier to be 100% reliant on government assistance. Why the hell would you want to work and save up for a nice steak dinner when the steak house now accepts food stamps as a form of payment?

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: Why the hell would you want to work and save up for a nice steak dinner when the steak house now accepts food stamps as a form of payment?

But that's just it, they aren't excepting food stamps. Yeah you might be swiping the EBT card, but the payment won't be processed through the food stamp portion of your EBT. It will be processed on the cash aid portion of the EBT. That's the thing to remember. The EBT cards, atleast in California and here in Utah, aren't food stamp only. Your food stamp and cash aid benefits get loaded to the card under 2 seperate sections. I know because when we first moved here we got foodstamps while we were getting established. When you swipe the card it comes up with 2 options "Food" or "Cash" on the card reader. Cash can be used for almost anything and the food portion can only be used for non prepared food. So the basically the EBT card is dual purpose, it's not just food stamps anymore. Thankfully we are established now so I don't have to deal with that anymore, but I've been through it so I've seen how it works. By the way EBT stands for Electronic Balance Transfer, so nothing in that says it's a "food stamp only card". It's just the card they started using now to eliminate the printing of food stamps and cash aid checks.

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quote Originally posted by Khw: But that's just it, they aren't excepting food stamps. Yeah you might be swiping the EBT card, but the payment won't be processed through the food stamp portion of your EBT. It will be processed on the cash aid portion of the EBT. That's the thing to remember. The EBT cards, atleast in California and here in Utah, aren't food stamp only. Your food stamp and cash aid benefits get loaded to the card under 2 seperate sections. I know because when we first moved here we got foodstamps while we were getting established. When you swipe the card it comes up with 2 options "Food" or "Cash" on the card reader. Cash can be used for almost anything and the food portion can only be used for non prepared food. So the basically the EBT card is dual purpose, it's not just food stamps anymore. Thankfully we are established now so I don't have to deal with that anymore, but I've been through it so I've seen how it works. By the way EBT stands for Electronic Balance Transfer, so nothing in that says it's a "food stamp only card". It's just the card they started using now to eliminate the printing of food stamps and cash aid checks.

Count Indiana and Michigan under the same system....cash and food.

quote Originally posted by Khw: Using a EBT card at a McDonalds would not be outside the realm of possible. The thing you have to realise is a EBT card in many states will carry 2 balances. One will be the food alotment and the other the cash aid alotment. The cash aid can be used anywhere, so purchasing fast food with it would be doable. They've done that to eliminate having to mail out checks. Instead your cash aid is available as a debit type transaction so you could go to a ATM and withdraw from that section of the EBT card. The food side of it however can only be used to purchase foods. So, while he may have used a EBT card to pay for the food at McDonalds, that doesn't mean he used the food stamp portion of it.

This is a good point. Some people receive their child support payments on these cards if I recall correctly.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: This is a good point. Some people receive their child support payments on these cards if I recall correctly.

Yes, in California if the DA had been able to get child support from my Ex, I beleive I would have been issued a EBT card to use the money they collected. Unfortunately they could never "find" her but they sure as hell had no problem finding me when I had to pay child support...

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Keep in mind this thread is from the perspective of someone on government assistance.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Did you even read the tread? It's about someone buying food at McDonald's using an EBT card.

Did you even read what you wrote?

Unless I am not familiar with the word perspective. I seems as though you were implying Kris was on governement assistance.


Regarding the Montesanto remark. Tons of things come from that. I wasn't arguing that point. I was just backing that there are ways to still support the little guys. Granted they aren't always the cheapest or most feasible, but I try to go for local businesses when I can. It is the only way I even have employement. I'd prefer not to work for "the machine". Eventually it is likely all that will exist.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: Plus. The food at McDonald's garbage. I gotta get really ripped to eat there. Then I end up with like 43lbs worth of food off the dollar menu. 19 double cheese burgers 50 nuggets and who knows what else might happen. I don't think I've at there in 2 years. Wait. I recall the last time. I had to meet a customer on the turnpike to trade some material. He wanted to hangout and chat for a bit, so we ate their. I think I might have pooped my pants from that stuff before I got back to my shop. :shudder:

Only reason I eat there is because I work during the night and its the only place open. Perhaps 2 times a month. Im convinced I live on nothing but peanut butter and tortillas.

EBT cards weren't allowed to purchase hot or prepared foods, but lately States are allowing them to be used in fast food restaurants. How they are getting around this is by claiming that elderly, disabled and homeless people do not have ready access or cannot cook their food or do not have access to refrigeration. So EBT's can now be accepted at Fast Food establishments. In some cases, even liquor stores can get around the law and accept EBT by saying they are providing EBT holders 'cooking wine & spirits'.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: Unless I am not familiar with the word perspective. I seems as though you were implying Kris was on governement assistance.

Very astute. I did indeed use the word perspective, and apparently my meaning wasn't clear. I was referring to the topic being the person Kris was talking about, not Kris personally.
I was not implying Kris was on government assistance.

To try and avoid any other confusion, my entire line of discussion in this thread has been about how someone on government assistance has limited options in buying food that doesn't at some point involve feeding the coffers of large corporations. (re:, jetsnvettes2000's irony comment)

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Very astute. I did indeed use the word perspective, and apparently my meaning wasn't clear. I was referring to the topic being the person Kris was talking about, not Kris personally. I was not implying Kris was on government assistance. To try and avoid any other confusion, my entire line of discussion in this thread has been about how someone on government assistance has limited options in buying food that doesn't at some point involve feeding the coffers of large corporations. (re:, jetsnvettes2000's irony comment)

Before the edit I also assumed you were speaking about me but then you clarified. I have never been on any sort of government assistance just to clarify. I just did a quick google search for the requirements in my state and it states if someone is living in your household you can claim their income family or not :WTF:. So 3 or 4 people move into a single home, one holds a crappy job and everyone benefits more from that loophole. Now I know how some people at work get food stamps even though everyone there makes more then the maximum amount. I personally feel you should have to put into the system before you are allowed to draw from it. X amount of taxable income = x amount of time allowed on government assistance.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Let them use it at McDonald's all they want. The more unhealthy their choices, the less time they'll be on government assistance. It's a self correcting problem.

You pay there health care to are you sure you want that?

quote Originally posted by Tstang429: You pay there health care to are you sure you want that?

I pay their health care and their food stamps. Unhealthy choices mean I pay both for a shorter period of time.
But it goes beyond my wallet. It also allows them freedom of choice, to eat how they please and shop where they want and reap the benefits or consequences of their choices.
I wouldn't dream of trying to improve their life by limiting their choices. They might end up more healthy and less free. That's not a good trade off.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: I wouldn't dream of trying to improve their life by limiting their choices. They might end up more healthy and less free. That's not a good trade off.

QFT

not sure which costs me more
EBT buying McDonalds or the Diabetic buying McDonalds......

but - WTF - McDonalds is not something I would eat - so....
but, cant be to high & mighty about it....I did start smoking again.....

Find a Grocery Store in Detroit. Just a fun thing, if ya need something to do.....

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: Find a Grocery Store in Detroit. Just a fun thing, if ya need something to do.....

This. ^

Kroger finally pulled out of Detroit a few years back. Now, there are no major grocery stores in the entire city of Detroit. None. When I lived there, I had to travel to Harper Woods to get to the closest grocery store. While not a long drive, it still is not possible for those without transportation to get there.

The EBT program has for some time (I think since it went to a carded system) had the "double balance," where persons on it receive both 'food stamps' and 'cash' balances. The idea behind the 'cash' balance is it's supposed to be utilized to pay for items often utilized at popular grocery stores that food stamps will not pay for, i.e., medicines & over-the-counter remedies, bath supplies, etc.

It should be noted however that the 'cash' balance put on the cards is very low in relation to the food stamps balance. However, the issue is that there are a tremendous amount of individuals out there receiving way more money than they likely should be receiving under the EBT system, meaning subsequently they are also receiving larger 'cash' balances on their accounts.

Does anyone else find it disheartening that someone can be so quick to judge the same type of people that were willing to step forward and help him in the past?

Strange how having a job and making a few dollars makes people forget the part of their past where they relied on others.

quote Originally posted by Fiero84Freak: The EBT program has for some time (I think since it went to a carded system) had the "double balance," where persons on it receive both 'food stamps' and 'cash' balances. The idea behind the 'cash' balance is it's supposed to be utilized to pay for items often utilized at popular grocery stores that food stamps will not pay for, i.e., medicines & over-the-counter remedies, bath supplies, etc. It should be noted however that the 'cash' balance put on the cards is very low in relation to the food stamps balance. However, the issue is that there are a tremendous amount of individuals out there receiving way more money than they likely should be receiving under the EBT system, meaning subsequently they are also receiving larger 'cash' balances on their accounts.

My Wife's Aunt gets Child support deposited monthly on an EBT card. She does not get food stamps. She used to get a check through the state, but this was said to be simpler. She is not on any form of welfare, but her Ex husband sends money to the State, and then deposits the money on her card.

Her Aunt has never been without a job as far as I have known her, on top of that she runs a farm, and everything she owns is paid for. Both of her kids are well rounded (though teenagery) and well mannered kids. Yet people like you and Kris would wrongly judge her if she paid for a meal at McDonald's with her EBT card. Good thing not everyone is so quick to judge. Not everything is as it seems.

Brad

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: My Wife's Aunt gets Child support deposited monthly on an EBT card. She does not get food stamps. She used to get a check through the state, but this was said to be simpler. She is not on any form of welfare, but her Ex husband sends money to the State, and then deposits the money on her card. . Brad

Yeah, I was going to reply to what he said earlier but was busy with dinner prep. The "cash" portion of EBT is not neccesarily "smaller" than the "food stamp" portion and it isn't only for medicine, OTC medicine and bath room stuffs. My Ex, before I gained sole custody of my daughter, got around $600 in cash aid + my child support payment depositied to her EBT card each month and only about $400 in food stamps. The "cash" side of the EBT card is for utility payments, rent, clothes, transportation and pretty much anything else that doesn't fall under what can be purchased with food stamps even including what can be purchased with food stamps. So it's not neccesarily some small trivial amount to cover minor grocery store non food items. Heck, if they get food stamps and cash aid they probably have Medi-cal also so they don't need money for RX's and Medi-cal even pays for some OTC meds also (we had Medi-cal when we first got here but have since obtained medical insurance outside Medi-cal).

quote Originally posted by Fiero84Freak: The idea behind the 'cash' balance is it's supposed to be utilized to pay for items often utilized at popular grocery stores that food stamps will not pay for, i.e., medicines & over-the-counter remedies, bath supplies, etc.

I'm not affraid to admit here on this forum that I have utilized the welfare system in the past. We moved here to Utah with 2 grand to our names with which we used some of it to pay for our move. I had no job lined up and stayed with freinds who helped us move. We used about half what we had left to get into our own place and I started working within a few days of our move, but we were on hard times and needed help to restart our lives after the damage done in California. I understand the frustration people have with those who use welfare as their means to exist, I feel it to. However I have to hope there's more people out there like me and a few others I've seen post here that have used it when they needed it to get their life back on track. I don't mind the idea of helping those kind of people. I don't mind helping those that do work but just don't make enough also. It's just the ones who don't work and rely on welfare to provide them a life that disgust me.

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quote Originally posted by Khw: I'm not affrais to admit here on this forum that I have utilized the welfare system in the past. We moved here to Utah with 2 grand to our names with which we used some of it to pay for our move. I had no job lined up and stayed with freinds who helped us move. We used about half what we had left to get into our own place and I started working within a few days of our move, but we were on hard times and needed help to restart our lives after the damage done in California. I understand the frustration people have with those who use welfare as their means to exist, I feel it to. However I have to hope there's more people out there like me and a few others I've seen post here that have used it when they needed it to get their life back on track. I don't mind the idea of helping those kind of people. I don't mind helping those that do work but just don't make enough also. It's just the ones who don't work and rely on welfare to provide them a life that disgust me.

Thanks for using it like it was intended, instead of abusing it.

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: Does anyone else find it disheartening that someone can be so quick to judge the same type of people that were willing to step forward and help him in the past? Strange how having a job and making a few dollars makes people forget the part of their past where they relied on others. Brad

I agree that he may have jumped to conclusions, but I think that it should be noted there is a difference between private help and public help.

Plus, I think this was more of a complaint about the system itself than about the people. That's how I read it, at least.

Then again, by your measure, I'm "out of touch" so maybe I shouldn't have an opinion on this.

I was not trying to sound like a prick. I will post more details when I get off work. If I sounded snive im sorry.

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: Yet people like you and Kris would wrongly judge her if she paid for a meal at McDonald's with her EBT card. Good thing not everyone is so quick to judge. Not everything is as it seems. Brad

Wow. Ok. I don't why you want to attack in that manner. What makes you think I would judge something like that? No where in my response did I state nor do I personally care what individuals do with any sort of welfare they receive.

What I said - and this is from personal experience - is that there are a tremendous amount of individuals out there receiving a lot more welfare benefits than they *likely* need. One little "trick" with this EBT system - if you are unaware of it - is that currently if you work as a cashier at any general food supply store, you can actually read both the EBT "food stamp" and EBT "cash" balances on cards of persons who have them. It's apparently not considered invasion of privacy, since the cashier has to know how much balance is on the card to both properly ring up the items and to inform the individual who holds the card the remaining balance(s) (if asked). It can be a serious waste of productivity - as was found early on - if individuals "go over" their EBT balance, and the workers have to "put items back."

Having worked as a cashier in a grocery store throughout high school right around the time the electronic EBT system was put into place, I have seen some balances on cards that would REALLY irritate the absolute hell out of individuals. Now keep in mind that cards are refilled monthly, and I personally am able to spend at the most around $200 a week on feeding a family and providing all the necessities (this includes non-food supplies, like bath toiletries and such). I have seen supposed "cash" balances on a good deal of cards nearing the thousand and a select few above. That is a TREMENDOUS amount of money, considering that EBT "food stamps" are usually in most all cases HIGHER than the "cash" balances (you don't even want to know the actual food stamp balances).

The thing is if there are people that are on these programs, then they need to be able to properly gauge and ration the monetary funding given to them. However when you are given balances this high, it can lead to excessive waste. THAT is the issue I have. If I personally have to gauge and ration my own grocery fund NOT using welfare, than individuals whom are on the programs need to be rather proactive and do the same. Can one go to McDonalds? Yes, you can. No one is stopping you. (Although I thought that people couldn't buy "hot food" with EBT?.... maybe it's changed since I've worked in that sector). Should one go? Probably not, considering it's super bad for people. The same money you spend there can get you at the grocery store proper proteins and healthy options. I can go to Kroger, spend $10, and have lunch, dinner, and lunch for the next day on ingredients I buy and it takes 30 minutes of my day to prepare it (keep in mind I work both a full time career job and a night job daily, and still have time).

You know people also seem to forget that there could potentially not be a thing as welfare. No EBT, no housing assistance, nothing. My family was on welfare quite a lot when I was growing up, and I remember the paper food stamps and trips to churches quite well, primarily because my father was an abusive alcoholic who couldn't (or wouldn't) work and drank himself to death 18 years ago with liver cirrhosis, while my mother worked her ass off and took any help she could get. I've been there. I also understood fairly quick I would never subject my family to it, and thus why I got a degree and make plenty of money now.

And like Kris said, not trying to be a prick or an jackass, but please don't be too quick to judge. That seems to be becoming a problem here.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: My Wife's Aunt gets Child support deposited monthly on an EBT card. She does not get food stamps. She used to get a check through the state, but this was said to be simpler. She is not on any form of welfare, but her Ex husband sends money to the State, and then deposits the money on her card. Brad

I wasn't aware they did that. Thank you for educating me on the subject.

I found in the past that going to McDonald's and buying 10 bucks worth of Dollar burgers was far less expensive than going to the grocery store and getting groceries for 3 people.

Get dinner for 3 people with 10 dollars, see how well that works out.

I'm not saying that there are not healthier choices out there, but to judge someone you don't know based on a decision you have zero information about with a set of standards that you are pushing on someone else seems like the wrong way to me.

As I said before, My wife's Aunt gets a NON-GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY (not welfare) deposit on her EBT card every month, her Ex Husband who decided to sleep with a woman half his age, and start using hard drugs pays monthly to some court thing, and they deposit the money on her card.

There could likely be times that there are thousands of dollars on that card as he is sporadic with payments.

For someone, anyone to judge her as "abusing the system" because she uses that card for ANYTHING is completely wrong no matter what set of beliefs you have.

My wife, who gets SSD payments monthly had a choice to get the same card, but instead had the money deposited into her bank account.


Brad

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: I found in the past that going to McDonald's and buying 10 bucks worth of Dollar burgers was far less expensive than going to the grocery store and getting groceries for 3 people. Get dinner for 3 people with 10 dollars, see how well that works out.

I do it all the time for a family of 5. Nachos is about a $10 dinner as well as spaghetti. Other things are cheaper such as mac and cheese with tuna or hotdogs. Homemade mac n cheese with smoked sausage in it is also in the $10 range. Hamburger gravy and biscuits... I could go on with even more but you get the idea. There are easily things you can make that will be in the $10 range although not nearly as convienent as going through a drive through. However between my wife and I, we share cooking duties, we rarely go to a drive through or eat out. We can fix our own food at home for less.

Hey when marijuana is legal for recreational use, I wonder if they'll be able to buy it too.

quote Originally posted by 2.5: Hey when marijuana is legal for recreational use, I wonder if they'll be able to buy it too.

They can buy it now... Take the EBT card to a atm, withdraw from your cash balance and go score some.

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: I found in the past that going to McDonald's and buying 10 bucks worth of Dollar burgers was far less expensive than going to the grocery store and getting groceries for 3 people. Get dinner for 3 people with 10 dollars, see how well that works out. I'm not saying that there are not healthier choices out there, but to judge someone you don't know based on a decision you have zero information about with a set of standards that you are pushing on someone else seems like the wrong way to me. As I said before, My wife's Aunt gets a NON-GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY (not welfare) deposit on her EBT card every month, her Ex Husband who decided to sleep with a woman half his age, and start using hard drugs pays monthly to some court thing, and they deposit the money on her card. There could likely be times that there are thousands of dollars on that card as he is sporadic with payments. For someone, anyone to judge her as "abusing the system" because she uses that card for ANYTHING is completely wrong no matter what set of beliefs you have. My wife, who gets SSD payments monthly had a choice to get the same card, but instead had the money deposited into her bank account. Brad

One of my friends made these as she's studying this kind of thing for school.

I'm just sharing this, obviously results will vary depending on where you live.






I agree though, that judging the situation without knowing the information might be jumping the gun. I think the conversation has also somewhat moved from there though. What should be allowed under actual welfare (not something like Brad's wife's Aunt)? Anything?