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How to Make a Home Brew AR-15 Semi-Automatic Pistol: Legally! by avengador1
Started on: 07-31-2012 11:20 AM
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Report this Post07-31-2012 11:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
http://teapartyeconomist.co...atic-pistol-legally/
 
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It is now possible to build a plastic AR-15 pistol. A man has done it. He did it by using an off-the-shelf 3-D printing machine.

These machines keep getting cheaper. In a few years, every do-it-yourself hobbyist will own one.

Download a program, turn on your machine, and in an hour or two, you will have the parts for whatever you like, including an AR-15.

This is legal, as long as you don’t sell it. You can make a do-it-yourself arsenal. You don’t register anything.

Amidst protests from an AR-15 discussion board that the part would fail and seriously injure him, he successfully fired 200 rounds using the 3D printed lower receiver without any trouble. To test it further, a metal AR-15 upper receiver was attached and a few shots fired with a higher-caliber .223. So far, the part seems to be holding up well and hasn’t shown any major signs of wear.

This certainly isn’t the first 3D printed gun part in existence, but it could be the first that’s been made into a fully working firearm. What’s important to note is that under U.S. law the lower receiver of an AR-15 (or any similar gun for that matter) is the component that is legally considered the “firearm.” It’s the main part that allows the gun to function, and even has the serial number printed on it for identification. Luckily for HaveBlue, making guns yourself isn’t illegal so long as you don’t sell or distribute them.

How does this work? Watch this.

Ain’t technology grand?

The gun control crowd is going to go ballistic!

If you’re going to go something, ballistic is the way to go, I always say.

See the original article here: http://www.gizmag.com/first...inted-firearm/23473/
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Report this Post07-31-2012 12:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for J-HollandSend a Private Message to J-HollandDirect Link to This Post
Yes, you can do things like that. The only question is why?
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Report this Post07-31-2012 05:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
Why? Because they can!
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Report this Post07-31-2012 05:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for User00013170Send a Private Message to User00013170Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by J-Holland:

Yes, you can do things like that. The only question is why?


Beacuse its fun to make things
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Report this Post07-31-2012 05:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NiterrorzSend a Private Message to NiterrorzDirect Link to This Post
actually thats severally illegal. you cannot own an automatic firearm unless you are registered with the ATF, you cannot modify an exsisting semi auto to be fully automatic under any circumstance. you cannot built weapons out of your home without having business permits allowing you to manufacture firearms. BUT its not illegal untill you get caught
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Report this Post07-31-2012 06:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for F355spiderSend a Private Message to F355spiderDirect Link to This Post
per provisions of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, an unlicensed individual may make a “firearm” as defined in the GCA for his own personal use, but not for sale or distribution.

I would call you local ATF and ask some questions.



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Report this Post07-31-2012 06:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
You can bet that BATF is monitoring that item.
He's making receiver(s) w/ no serial # etc and not whole weapon. I'm shock BATF hasn't "interviewed" him or worse.

Have made enough news...

http://www.theregister.co.u...rinted_assault_rifle
http://www.popsci.com/techn...fle-made-3-d-printer
and more... google new: 3d print gun

Only a matter of time before someone stupid posted 3D printer file... plans for that and others are publicly available for a while so...
Better plastic can print allot of tough parts and won't blow up either.

I hope he has good lawyer.

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Report this Post07-31-2012 08:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
And people complain about MIM parts being weak.

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Report this Post07-31-2012 08:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
legal in every way.
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Report this Post07-31-2012 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
You get enough people blowing each other away with them and they'll make a law for it.
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Report this Post08-01-2012 01:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:
legal in every way.

Dealing w/ two issues... Making a Receiver and publishing the print file.
Making the part...
For his own use? maybe/likely yes.
But second he or someone else gives or sells that to anyone, BATF will say he's an illegal manufacturer of restricted parts.

Print file...
Likely BATF and many other Govmnts can say that now for releasing print file, even if their wrong (Remember, BATF etc doesn't care much about the truth), and arrest & charge him accordingly to make an example of...
He need a very good lawyer to get him off. Even if he's free at the end, Govmnt will likely bankrupt him and arrest is public record and many jobs are out of reach because the arrest. Companies HR won't care... Any record = Circular File. Plenty candidates w/o records to look at. Many Co's will fire you "w/ cause" as so as he gets arrested so unemployment won't pay.
Some other countries can have worse penalties for making gun parts.
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Report this Post08-01-2012 07:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blander66Send a Private Message to blander66Direct Link to This Post
As long as the firearm meets the requirements for import part count and is not a sbr/full auto this is perfectly legal, when ak parts kits were dirt cheap lots of people were making there own ak47's. I have build a few guns like this including a 1911 that I machined the reciver myself.

As far as putting the info out there that has been done many times before, check out the we'd site CBC gunsmithing they have cad files for many popular firearms, that's how i generated the g-code to mill my ar-10 lower receiver
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