Obamabot out of control?
http://godfatherpolitics.co...ize-president-obama/

quote The First Amendment was mandated by the states to protect political speech. The colonists wanted the freedom they didn’t have in England to speak freely about what political leaders were doing. They also wanted to be free to write about what they believed were wrong-headed policies without fear of reprisals. In addition, they insisted on the freedom to “petition the government for a redress of grievances.” The First Amendment was a freedom breakthrough, but you would never know that if you were a student in one North Carolina classroom. A student stood firm in his beliefs about President Obama and challenged his teacher on the claim that Mitt Romney was a bully in high school. The student pointed out that President Obama admitted shoving a girl to the ground in his book Dreams from My Father. The teacher screamed the following in disapproval: “Stop, no, because there is no comparison. [Romney is] running for president. Obama is the president.” It’s obvious that the the teacher is an Obama zombie. The teacher then goes into intimidation mode by telling the student that it is wrong to “disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom.” He points out that what President Obama wrote in his own book is not being disrespectful; it’s being factual. He could have also pointed out that the President was a drug user. The teacher then tells the student – wrongly – that it is a criminal offense to say bad things about a president. “Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?” Referencing the First Amendment, the student, obviously knowing more than his teacher, tells her that any suppression of his opinions would be a violation of the First Amendment. I suspect that these types of incidents are common all across the United States. We are fortunate that not all students are brainwashed. There may still be hope for America. There is a YouTube video that was shot by a friend of the bullied student. You can view it here (sound only):

It IS a crime to slander the POTUS. But....slander (any) is only slander if it's not true. If it's true, it's not a crime. It's also a crime to threaten the President even if you're joking and/or don't mean it.

it's also a crime to be a fraud, oops.. in the end thats what the history books wil list these last 4 years as.

Yup. Tells her student "You cannot criticize any president, past or present" then calls President Bush a "shi??y" president a minute or so later. Well done, teach, well done.

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: ... It's also a crime to threaten the President even if you're joking and/or don't mean it.

Ah, but if he is not legally entitled to be President, then he is not president and is only pretending hence that does not apply.

Just an observation, but this lady sounded like she had an elementary level education. One can thank the governments forced racial quotas for allowing this imbecile to educate young minds.

At least they will be fluent in ebonics when they graduate from her class.

How many of you want to bet that I am going to have a difficult time with teachers when Benjamin enters school? I forsee it.

Tony

Its only against the law if your in the military. Anyone with any balls can criticize any politician they want. Lately, even some military people are talking.

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: How many of you want to bet that I am going to have a difficult time with teachers when Benjamin enters school? I forsee it. Tony

I have two words for you........private school.

Sadly, good public schools are too few & far between nowadays.

schools have become day cares nothing more

I see more and more every year doing the home school thing. That's fine by me, but I still beleive there is something lost by not being in an interactive and diverse climate with students one's own age.
Where's the kid gonna learn dirty jokes when staying home with parent every day?

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Where's the kid gonna learn dirty jokes when staying home with parent every day?

My house, .

Cliff's house, maryjane, or his video teaching series.

quote Originally posted by E.Furgal: schools have become day cares nothing more

There not even good at that. Kids all walk out of school anytime they want after they get out of elementary school.

http://www.sott.net/article...in-Graduation-Speech

The valedictorian of the school calls out the U.S. school system.
It's remarkably interesting to see her views of U.S. schools and she kinda hits the nail on the head.
This is a good read if you don't like schools these days.

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: It IS a crime to slander the POTUS. But....slander (any) is only slander if it's not true.

Only if acted in malice. A public figure, like POTUS doesn't have the same level of protection as a private citizen with it comes to defamation, libel or slander.

The teacher was relieved of duty, with pay, and no real comment from the school system.

Was this the teacher?

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: It IS a crime to slander the POTUS. But....slander (any) is only slander if it's not true. If it's true, it's not a crime. It's also a crime to threaten the President even if you're joking and/or don't mean it.

It will be soon.. even if its not slander.

That was painful to try to listen to People like that make me ashamed to be a teacher.
Rest assured, in my classroom, I encourage my students to stand up for what they believe, even if the consequences mean they get into trouble. I encourage them to stand their ground and speak their mind and we have had some interesting conversations throughout the year. I try to keep my personal opinions and bias out of the classroom and teach the facts of history to the best of my ability. I ask their opinion about current situations, but it is not my place to try to force my views upon these kids. I give them the knowledge. What they do with it is up to them. I try to teach them like my old grandpaw used to say..."You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything."

quote Originally posted by Cooter: That was painful to try to listen to People like that make me ashamed to be a teacher. Rest assured, in my classroom, I encourage my students to stand up for what they believe, even if the consequences mean they get into trouble. I encourage them to stand their ground and speak their mind and we have had some interesting conversations throughout the year. I try to keep my personal opinions and bias out of the classroom and teach the facts of history to the best of my ability. I ask their opinion about current situations, but it is not my place to try to force my views upon these kids. I give them the knowledge. What they do with it is up to them. I try to teach them like my old grandpaw used to say..."You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything."

You're one of the good ones. I believe my wife is, too.

This other person just gives me the chills.

quote Originally posted by mrfiero: I have two words for you........private school. Sadly, good public schools are too few & far between nowadays.

It's a tough battle for private schools.
It's hard to compete with "free."

quote Originally posted by Cooter: That was painful to try to listen to People like that make me ashamed to be a teacher. Rest assured, in my classroom, I encourage my students to stand up for what they believe, even if the consequences mean they get into trouble. I encourage them to stand their ground and speak their mind and we have had some interesting conversations throughout the year. I try to keep my personal opinions and bias out of the classroom and teach the facts of history to the best of my ability. I ask their opinion about current situations, but it is not my place to try to force my views upon these kids. I give them the knowledge. What they do with it is up to them. I try to teach them like my old grandpaw used to say..."You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything."

You sound like my 12th grade Government teacher. We spent more time in hs class just debating topics than we did on actual studies. We'd get in class and alot of us would be talking about different current events and our teacher would add questions here and there, both in support of or against the topic. We'd end up talking about them for the first 1/2 of class or more and then cram our lesson into the last part of class time. Of course I graduated in 89, so Reagan was in office for the vast majority of my High School years, followed by Bush for the last 9 months of my High School years. That gave us alot to talk about. I still think of him as my favorite teacher. We even used to steal his classroom podium that he taught from. We'd paint it different ways and return it. One time we painted it camo and left it in the bushes outside his classroom. At our graduation, we stole it and glued feathers all over it making it look like a duck (since he commonly used ducks in obviously wrong answers on multiple choice tests). Mr. Russel was a fun teacher and I think you are most likely just as good .

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quote Originally posted by Cooter:. [QUOTE] You ARE one of the good ones. I believe this also. Tony IP: Logged 01:18 AM tbone42 Member Posts: 8480 From: Registered: Apr 2010 Feedback score:    (23) Leave feedback Total ratings: 128 Rate this member Report this Post05-22-2012 01:27 AM tbone42 8480 posts Member since Apr 2010 [QUOTE]Originally posted by NoMoreRicers: It's a tough battle for private schools. It's hard to compete with "free."

Free.. thats a funny word considering how much tax money I give our school systems here a year.

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: It IS a crime to slander the POTUS. But....slander (any) is only slander if it's not true. If it's true, it's not a crime. It's also a crime to threaten the President even if you're joking and/or don't mean it.

Slander is not a crime, it is a tort. It is a civil, not criminal action. Oh, and public figures, such as POTUS, are not entitled to much protection, at all, under the law of slander.

Slander's awfully tough to prove, in the bast of circumstances. For a public figure, such as POTUS, well nigh impossible.

And no, it is most certainly NOT a crime to "slander" the President. (You think otherwise, cite the statute that says so.) If POTUS wants to sue you for slander, he can do so, but then it's up to him, you, the Judge, the Jury, and The Law. He can''t possibly put up a case for "damages." He's got none.

Criticizing the President is not, and never has been, a crime in the US. It's a National Sport.

So do, please, get over yourself.

quote Originally posted by Shyster: Slander is not a crime, it is a tort. It is a civil, not criminal action. Oh, and public figures, such as POTUS, are not entitled to much protection, at all, under the law of slander. Slander's awfully tough to prove, in the bast of circumstances. For a public figure, such as POTUS, well nigh impossible. And no, it is most certainly NOT a crime to "slander" the President. (You think otherwise, cite the statute that says so.) If POTUS wants to sue you for slander, he can do so, but then it's up to him, you, the Judge, the Jury, and The Law. He can''t possibly put up a case for "damages." He's got none. Criticizing the President is not, and never has been, a crime in the US. It's a National Sport. So do, please, get over yourself.

Thank You. As always.

Brad

Sounds a lot like Liberal hypocrisy.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: Free.. thats a funny word considering how much tax money I give our school systems here a year.

See the quotes that I put around the word "free?"
Now imagine we are having this conversation face-to-face and I do the finger-quotes. LOL
Implied sarcasm at it's finest.

On a serious note, that is very kind of you to "give" the school systems money.
In my case, extortion would be a more appropriate word.

sadly even the good and great teachers, have their hands tied.. the feds say, you have to teach "this" and they will be tested on it, and your schools funding will be based on that testing..
follow the money..
yes when I was in school they had a set of studies that needed to be taught durring that school year.. but we where able to also get side tracked, like when the space shuddle blew up.. when the great wall was brought down, and other news that was happening around the globe at that time.. , I mean when the shuddle blew up, we spent 2 weeks on the history of the space program.. that if that didn't happen, it would not have been part of the class.. the teachers made the class fun to be in/at and that made learning/school less of a drag.. allot of times the stuff we should've been doing in class became homework.. but no one cared.. as the class was entertaining, fun, and opened your mind..
today they don't have that freedom.. one teacher a family friend was suppended without pay for a week for spending time on the navy seals, after the story broke that they got bin ladin..
because ot wasn't part of the studies listed on that years requirements..
the feds that are controlling our school system need a ***** slap up side the head..