Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, NBC's cable sibling.
Brian Williams, anchor of The NBC Nightly News.
Brian Roberts, the Chairman and CEO of Comcast, owners of NBC Universal.
The Reverend Al Sharpton, host of MSNBC's Politics Nation.
And Quicken Loans, one of the original seven national sponsors of The Rush Limbaugh Show that pretentiously dropped Rush's show.
That would be the same MSNBC host Reverend Al Sharpton -- hired by MSNBC president Phil Griffin -- caught on this video clip from Evocateur, a documentary film of the late television host Morton Downey, Jr. Sharpton, seen here on the set of Downey's television show, is heatedly shouting to an audience member:
You ain't nothing, you a punk homosexual. Now come on, do something!
That video, provided on YouTube courtesy of Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller, is in fact an excerpt of a trailer for the film on Downey produced by Ironbound Films. The entire trailer can be found here at the Ironbound site.
The clip of the MSNBC host hired by Mr. Griffin has now surfaced along with a series of Sharpton audio tapes -- found here. Beginning with this reference by Sharpton to the black then-mayor of New York, David Dinkins.
David Dinkins.… You wanna be the only n….on television, the only n….in the newspaper, the only n…to talk.…Don't cover them, don't talk to them, cause you got the only n…problem. Cause you know if a black man stood up next to ya they would see you for the whore that you really are.
Other tapes are littered with derogatory references to "Greek homos," "Chinamen," "Koreans sell us watermelons," and so on.
But there's one video that has not gotten attention.
That would be this one, which features NBC News anchor Brian Williams speaking to the National Action Network Conference
That would be the National Action Network, a progressive group founded by: Al Sharpton. Whom Williams refers to in warm and familiar terms at the end of the tape as "the Reverend Al."
The controversy over the relationship between Sharpton and both MSNBC and NBC News anchor Williams has erupted in the wake of the drive by leftists -- with MSNBC and Media Matters in the front of the pack -- to strip Rush Limbaugh of his sponsors because of the Fluke affair -- and hence push his program off the air.
As president of MSNBC, Griffin is directly responsible for Sharpton's hiring, as well as the relentless attack on Limbaugh's free speech rights. The accusation that MSNBC is terrified of free debate was an accusation made as well by the recently dismissed MSNBC commentator and longtime conservative Pat Buchanan. Buchanan discussed his firing by MSNBC with Fox's Sean Hannity here and here.
I called Mr. Griffin's office directly to get his comments on the Sharpton hate tapes. I was politely shuttled to MSNBC's Vice President of Communications, Jeremy Gaines. Who dutifully inquired as to my concerns.
This is what I said:
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for getting back.
As you may know, I did a piece on MSNBC and Al Sharpton today.
With all the controversy over free speech, now amplified by the Limbaugh episode, the firing of Pat Buchanan etc., I thought a piece on Phil Griffin was in order. I want to see if I can pin down what are his ideas about "standards".
I have found, for example, this video clip of Rev. Sharpton calling someone a "punk homosexual."
On top of his "Greek homos" remark, this seems to indicate a toleration by MSNBC of remarks many would see as an indication of homophobia. On top of the audio that has Mr. Sharpton spewing the "n-word" and calling the then-Mayor of New York a "n…..whore" I am curious as to Mr. Griffin's idea of standards for MSNBC.
Is Rachel Maddow, for example, aware that one of her fellow hosts called someone a "punk homosexual" on national television?
You should know that I have also contacted Brian Roberts of Comcast to ask some of these same questions.
I am personally a strong believer in free speech. I believe audiences decide what and who they will listen to or watch. But it appears Mr. Griffin has a different view and I confess I'm somewhat confused as to what that is. There is a report that Mr. Griffin has said the Buchanan book did not belong in the public discourse. Is calling the Mayor of New York a "n…..whore" and a member of a television audience a "punk homosexual" acceptable discourse for an MSNBC host?
Thanks.
I'm sure this is an uncomfortable line of questioning. But under the circumstances, it's a necessary one.
Mr. Gaines has replied, and here is his statement in its entirety on behalf of Phil Griffin and MSNBC:
As we said when we hired Rev. Sharpton, we didn't hire the Al Sharpton of 1989, we hired the Al Sharpton of 2011. As he has said as recently as on last Sunday's "Meet the Press," he has changed over the years and no longer uses the heated rhetoric of two decades ago. We have been clear and consistent in our actions, we hold our hosts accountable for what they say on our air.
I also contacted The NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams, through the show's spokeswoman,
Erika Masonhall. That e-mail said:
Hi Erika…
This is Jeff Lord with The American Spectator.
As you may know, I did a piece on MSNBC and Al Sharpton yesterday.
With all the attention NBC/MSNBC has been devoting to the Rush Limbaugh-Sandra Fluke incident, I wanted to see if I can pin down Brian Williams' idea of standards for NBC News and its cable sibling, MSNBC. He appears on both networks, as do other NBC News personalities like Andrea Mitchell.
In light of all the coverage directed at Mr. Limbaugh, I am curious as to why the lack of coverage of moments like this one featuring MSNBC host the Reverend Al Sharpton calling someone -- on television -- a "punk homosexual." This is on top of the audios I have listed in the above column in which Rev. Sharpton refers to "Greek homos" and spews the "n word." Collectively these things certainly leave the impression that NBC News, its parent company Comcast, and MSNBC in particular -- are turning a blind eye to what many would consider outrageous examples of both homophobia and racism.
I have also sent this inquiry to MSNBC president Phil Griffin and Comcast CEO Brian Roberts.
My questions for Mr. Williams:
• I have a video of you appearing at an Al Sharpton event (here). The "punk homosexual" video certainly existed before your appearance, as did common knowledge of Rev. Sharpton's "Greek Homo" remark and his spewing of the "n-word" in an attack on then-New York Mayor David Dinkins.
Rev. Sharpton is now a host on your network. Do you feel he is representative of the standards set by people like General Sarnoff [Note: this refers to General David Sarnoff, the legendary early leader of NBC], Huntley and Brinkley, John Chancellor, Tom Brokaw -- and now yourself?
• Why did you appear at this Sharpton event? Did you not know of your host's proclivity for these kind of remarks? Do you routinely make appearances of this nature at eventts where the host has a well recorded problem with what many would call homophobia and highly charged racial utterances?
• In light of the fact that NBC News and MSNBC have extensively reported on the Rush Limbaugh episode, why has there been no reporting of Reverend Sharpton's remarks in terms of how they would affect his presence as an on-air host at MSNBC?
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Al Sharpton is hugely annoying to me. I don't think he ever apologized for his support of the phony black girl rape. He does seem to have mellowed since then, but he still talks like the preacher he is. I hate being preached to. I agree with a lot of what he says now even though he annoys me.
Originally posted by dratts: He does seem to have mellowed since then, . . .
You are talking about lying, self-aggrandizing Al Sharpton? He not only hasn't mellowed, he has become an even bigger name calling idiot than he was. Please do not call him a preacher. He has no more connection to any Scripture than any other shark.
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You are talking about lying, self-aggrandizing Al Sharpton? He not only hasn't mellowed, he has become an even bigger name calling idiot than he was. Please do not call him a preacher. He has no more connection to any Scripture than any other shark.
Are you saying that he annoys you too?
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Al Sharpton is nothing more than a racist clown and liar. I don't understand why any media gives him the time of the day, especially after the Tawana Brawley fiasco. She ended up raking in millions of dollars from those that ate up her story as it was bolstered by Sharton and a couple of other racist clowns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...ley_rape_allegations
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The killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman is showing how liberals – especially blacks – care more about getting the political upper hand than affecting long-term change in black communities. Blacks are used as props to raise political capital. The shooting deaths of two British students — James Cooper and James Kouzaris — murdered last April in Florida by a black youth received no attention by black leaders or President Obama. Three letters were sent to the President that never received a reply. “It would perhaps appear,” friends of the victims said, “that Mr Obama sees no political value in facilitating such a request or that the lives of two British tourists are not worthy of ten minutes of his time.”
Why no national attention to the two Chicago men who were wearing hooded sweatshirts (“hoodies”) and were involved in a shooting that left one dead and five injured. This happened in the same congressional district represented by former Black Panther Bobby Rush (D-IL). This is the same Bobby Rush who wore a “hoodie” during a speech in the U.S. House of Representatives until he was escorted out.
The goal of people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Maxine Waters is to build up political capital. Fixing the problems of black communities is not their goal. They need bad neighborhoods, escalating crime, and high unemployment so they can use these as political and economic clubs to extract votes and money.
It was Al Sharpton who said that Herman Cain was not “authentically Black.” What did he mean? Cain didn’t have the usual markings of a poor, disadvantaged, ghettoized, welfare-raised black man because he succeeded in business. Cain could not be used as a poster child or neglect and need for the guild-laden white community to donate to liberal black causes and to get them to vote Democrat.
Jesse Jackson has made millions by “shakedown” tactics to extract money from corporations. Willie Ellis expressed his frustration with Jackson: “Open your eyes: Jesse Jackson is for Jesse Jackson and Jesse Jackson only. He stole from the people long enough. It’s time the people know the true man Jesse Jackson is. He has rode on black peoples’ coattails long enough.” Harold Davis said Jackson “is a shakedown artist, and nobody holds him accountable.”
Jackson is “worth $40 million dollars … and Martin Luther King died broke,” Davis went on to say. Jackson ignores the needs of his hometown of Chicago, “In Chicago, the kids’ reading scores were the worst in 13 years; [Jackson] ain’t opened his mouth. Why? Because he don’t fight in his backyard when he sees a reason to go fight somewhere else,” Davis said.
While Sharpton and Jackson are making their money, black communities across America are disintegrating. Welfare policies pushed by liberal do-gooders have created a perpetual dependent class – good for winning elections but bad for the overall health of black families.
While the killing of Trayvon Martin was a tragedy, there are daily tragedies in black neighborhoods. For example, the unemployment rate for black males is at 18% while black youth unemployment was at 46.5% in late 2011. Who’s to blame? Whites? The rich? Are whites and the rich to blame for dramatic school drop-out rates? Are whites to blame for the way many black young people dress when they show up for job interviews?
Who should we blame for out-of-wedlock births? Welfare has led to the disintegration of the black family similar to how slavery affected the black family structure. Welfare family disintegration is worse than slavery because politicians and so-called black leaders believe that welfare is a right that is due blacks because of slavery. The welfare has done more to harm poor people than slavery ever did.
Who’s to blame for black-on-black crime? Here are some statistics from the Black on Black Crime Coalition:
While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed [by] African Americans.
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The U.S. Justice Department provides a breakdown of homicides by the race of both the victim and offender. Looking at the data for 2005 (the latest year available), we find that whites committed 48.0% of all murders and blacks committed 51.2% of all murders. However, whites outnumber blacks in the population. In fact, non-Hispanic whites are about 69% of the population and blacks are about 13%. These statistics alone, shows that blacks are 13% of the population, but commit 51.2% of the murders, indicate that blacks commit a seriously disproportionate number of murders.”
None of this is to indict all blacks. There is a developing black middle and upper class in the United States. Their rise came about despite economic hardships, prejudice, bigotry, and outright racism. They didn’t use these as excuses to explain failure in the black community. They fought against it.
Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Maxine Waters are political opportunists. Their comments end up inflaming many in the black community and creating resentment among whites. Do blacks benefit? Yes. Some of them do. Ask Jesse and Al.
Al Sharpton is hugely annoying to me. I don't think he ever apologized for his support of the phony black girl rape. He does seem to have mellowed since then, but he still talks like the preacher he is. I hate being preached to. I agree with a lot of what he says now even though he annoys me.
Hes not a preacher. From what i understand a 'servant of god' doesn't go around fanning the flames of hate.
Hes not a preacher. From what i understand a 'servant of god' doesn't go around fanning the flames of hate.
I've thought about getting one of those online licenses and making people call me "Reverend". I think it's got a nice ring to it. "Rev. Brad", and I would be likely be more "Godly" on accident than the Rev. Sharpton is on purpose.
I've thought about getting one of those online licenses and making people call me "Reverend". I think it's got a nice ring to it. "Rev. Brad", and I would be likely be more "Godly" on accident than the Rev. Sharpton is on purpose.
Brad
Even i would be, and im agnostic
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I signed a petition to get Rush kicked off the air. I would gladly sign a petition to get Al off the air too. They both make their appeal to bigots and narrow-minded people. I don't like it on then left any more than I do on the right.
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I signed a petition to get Rush kicked off the air. I would gladly sign a petition to get Al off the air too. They both make their appeal to bigots and narrow-minded people. I don't like it on then left any more than I do on the right.
In my book everyone gets their say. if i don't agree with what they are talking about, i don't have to listen but i would NEVER vote to restrict another citizens right to say it.
Oh, and while i don't agree with the evaluation of Rush being a bigot, but even if he was, he has that right.
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In my book everyone gets their say. if i don't agree with what they are talking about, i don't have to listen but i would NEVER vote to restrict another citizens right to say it.
Oh, and while i don't agree with the evaluation of Rush being a bigot, but even if he was, he has that right.
Agree! I see what is happening in WI and Unions sending out "Protection" letters to businesses.. I want everyone to have a voice, not just Agree with me or we'll boycott and picket you voices.
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I've thought about getting one of those online licenses and making people call me "Reverend". I think it's got a nice ring to it. "Rev. Brad", and I would be likely be more "Godly" on accident than the Rev. Sharpton is on purpose.
Brad
Rev. Boondawg. Open me a home for wayward women.
Do me some laying on of the hands and some talkin' in tounges. I'm all about gettin' a little religion up in ya'. I'm a holy man.
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God I can't stand Sharpton. I swear, I would flip the channel away from a show featuring nude Victoria's Secret models if I found out he was hosting it.
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Sorry in this instance, i'm going to blame the "Player"
The "Players" in question have positioned themselves as "Journalists" Sorry, they are not. They are creative writing students who don't care about the truth.
I signed a petition to get Rush kicked off the air. I would gladly sign a petition to get Al off the air too. They both make their appeal to bigots and narrow-minded people. I don't like it on then left any more than I do on the right.
The price of freedom of speech is even defending the rights of those you disagree with. I think Sharpton is full of crap and a race baiter, but I wouldn't have him taken off the air. He has as much right to free speech as Rush, me and you. If you can take away others right to free speech, then YOUR rights can be taken away. Think about that.
The price of freedom of speech is even defending the rights of those you disagree with. I think Sharpton is full of crap and a race baiter, but I wouldn't have him taken off the air. He has as much right to free speech as Rush, me and you. If you can take away others right to free speech, then YOUR rights can be taken away. Think about that.
And each and all would still have their "right to free speech". No one tho, has a constitutional entitlement to be on any specific media. Olbermann was fired yesterday. Was his right to free speech infringed upon? Nope--not one iota. If I don't pay my bill and lose my internet connection, is my right to free speech infringed upon? Nope--not one single bit.
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The price of freedom of speech is even defending the rights of those you disagree with. I think Sharpton is full of crap and a race baiter, but I wouldn't have him taken off the air. He has as much right to free speech as Rush, me and you. If you can take away others right to free speech, then YOUR rights can be taken away. Think about that.
I WAS exercising my right to freedom of speech. Just because I directed it more precisely than the platform that they use doesn't mean I don't have that right. The people that I directed it to have every right to ignore me, but if enough people express a similar position they might reconsider supporting extremists on both side. I would never support taking away Anyones right to free speech. In fact they have much more free speech than I do. I don't have access to national mediums to offer a counter opinion.
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I WAS exercising my right to freedom of speech. Just because I directed it more precisely than the platform that they use doesn't mean I don't have that right. The people that I directed it to have every right to ignore me, but if enough people express a similar position they might reconsider supporting extremists on both side. I would never support taking away Anyones right to free speech. In fact they have much more free speech than I do. I don't have access to national mediums to offer a counter opinion.
Personally, i feel its wrong to use ones 'right' in the process of attempting to squelch another persons rights. To me its hypocrisy to do this. Even when i feel that what they are saying is completely wrong, appalling, and they are an idiot, they get to say it. As i walk away to listen to someone else, or even speak out myself if i feel it warrants it.
One thing to think about from your comment: If enough people express a similar position on a particular issue, doesn't that actually make it the majority? Would you want to restrict a majority from forming on a subject just because you disagree with it? Conversely, why should a minority of people be actively squelched just because they are the minority? That is a fundamental component of racism.
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Nurb, that is Pretty much what Bill Maher said about Rush. I don't have access to the same pulpit that they do. I can't get my opposing view out to the same amount of people that they do. This forum is nice, but it doesn't reach the same amount of people. If I could we would have equal right to free speech. If my signing a petition causes them to lose their pulpit, they can find another a lot easier than I can. They need to find out that there is a consequence to their speech just as there is to mine if I cause my employer to lose money because of my speech. I understand your viewpoint and you have every right to it. I am finding out that my voice although not nearly as influential has some impact after all, and that is a new empowering feeling for me. I have felt for a long time that my voice was nothing. The people who receive our petition have every right to ignore it. It has no legal standing at all. It is just a voiced opinion. I respect you very much and I listen to your opinions.
Nurb, that is Pretty much what Bill Maher said about Rush. I don't have access to the same pulpit that they do. I can't get my opposing view out to the same amount of people that they do. This forum is nice, but it doesn't reach the same amount of people. If I could we would have equal right to free speech. If my signing a petition causes them to lose their pulpit, they can find another a lot easier than I can. They need to find out that there is a consequence to their speech just as there is to mine if I cause my employer to lose money because of my speech. I understand your viewpoint and you have every right to it. I am finding out that my voice although not nearly as influential has some impact after all, and that is a new empowering feeling for me. I have felt for a long time that my voice was nothing. The people who receive our petition have every right to ignore it. It has no legal standing at all. It is just a voiced opinion. I respect you very much and I listen to your opinions.
They weren't able to either in the beginning, but worked hard to get their ability to talk to the masses as they want to.. you can too if you put your mind to it.
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My mind doesn't work as well as it used to. Even if I put my mind to it, it wouldn't be a fair fight. When I was younger I thought that I could do anything. It was a delusion.