“‘Gender liberation’ will likely be the new vogue term used to describe the tidal wave that is fast approaching the shores of the California public school system,” writes Robert Tyler, founder of Advocates for Faith & Freedom, a non-profit law firm dedicated to protecting religious liberty. “And you can be sure that it won’t stop there. It will spread throughout the nation and have disastrous consequences on the innocent.
“In other words,” Tyler explains of what “gender liberation” means, “male-female distinctions must be eliminated in order to ‘liberate’ children from unnecessary ‘stereotypes.’ This is not a movement seeking ‘equal rights,’ but a movement seeking to obliterate our God-given distinctions between male and female.”
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Posts: 9891 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
Another reason to eliminate public schools. If a parent want to sent their kid to a school that teaches in this style, then let them choose to do so. Instead only people who can afford to send their kids to private schools get a choice. Everyone else has to put up with these legally mandated (re)education establishments.
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Posts: 20700 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
For the same reason that the liberal Atheist crackpots have a problem with separate restrooms, etc. They can't stand that we are differentiated and won't accept that it's for a reason.
After all, we're just rutting animals who happen to have developed utensils and spaceflight.
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For the same reason that the liberal Atheist crackpots have a problem with separate restrooms, etc. They can't stand that we are differentiated and won't accept that it's for a reason.
Sorry! I don't care if there is separate restrooms or not.
I'm just asking why is it that not asking for a person's gender on a school form some how threatening to religious liberties?
Sorry! I don't care if there is separate restrooms or not.
I'm just asking why is it that not asking for a person's gender on a school form some how threatening to religious liberties?
Because they're fighting against God by trying to go against something that God created. God created Men and Women. If you're born a man, you're a man. If you're born a woman, you're a woman. There is no such thing as "perceived gender" it's always been sin, and always will be forevermore amen.
Because they're fighting against God by trying to go against something that God created. God created Men and Women. If you're born a man, you're a man. If you're born a woman, you're a woman. There is no such thing as "perceived gender" it's always been sin, and always will be forevermore amen.
Who's god? And who has a right to impose their god on someone else?
Some higher schools here, like OSU have 3 restrooms in places. Mens, Womens and Other. I think OSU also went to coed dorms/ restrooms. Im not totally sure about that, but Ohio University in Athens def has coed dorms starting this past semester. I know a girl there (OU) that has a male roomate. I think it was basicly done to allow bothers and sisters to have one room, but its progressed to boyfriend/girlfriend status too.
Some higher schools here, like OSU have 3 restrooms in places. Mens, Womens and Other. I think OSU also went to coed dorms/ restrooms. Im not totally sure about that, but Ohio University in Athens def has coed dorms starting this past semester. I know a girl there (OU) that has a male roomate. I think it was basicly done to allow bothers and sisters to have one room, but its progressed to boyfriend/girlfriend status too.
Considering you are an adult and can/do make your own choices ( with a few exceptions for those kids that are brilliant and skip out of the 'lower levels' ) i don't see why coed isn't the norm anyway.
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Posts: 25242 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
One of my bosses in a previous job went through a whole sex-change operation. He basically spent upwards of $130,000 of his own money to do all the surgeries back in the early 2000s.
The most outrageous part was, all the liberals who felt that they were being "affected" by it, were completely against it. I heard some of the stupidest stuff... like one girl said she didn't want him to go through the sex change because she didn't want to share the girl's restroom with him. (she obviously didn't get it).
Anyway, this kind of thing is extremely rare... it is EXTREMELY rare for someone to actually believe that they are a man trapped in a woman's body, or a woman trapped in a man's body. Aside from some chromosonal issues that come up now and then, most of these people, like my old boss, are individuals who have serious mental disorders, and then also happen to be gay. This particular individual had obsessive compulsive disorder. It got so bad at some points that he would have to take a week off work, like this one time that he thought he smelled sushi everywhere because he had gotten it earlier in the week. He actually said that she regretted doing the sex-change after the fact. Never the less, it's their right. But for the less than a quarter of a tenth of 1% of the population that actually goes through with this, I think it's ridiculous that a public institution would spend taxpayer money on a gender liberation program.
There was a study that was conducted years ago where they dressed a boy up as a woman. I think they even cut his penis off when he was an infant and tried to raise him as a child. It was all done by liberals. The boy ended up comitting suicide.
Correction, I just looked it up... it was a botched circumcision, and then a liberal from John Hopkins gender studies convinced the parents to raise the child as a girl.
What the government needs to do is get the f**k out of the business of raising kids. Let gay people be gay, and let people do their own God damned thing. There is no reason why we need to have a gender liberation program. I would be sooo pissed off if my taxpayer money went towards this **** .
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Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
From the article: “In other words,” Tyler explains of what “gender liberation” means, “male-female distinctions must be eliminated in order to ‘liberate’ children from unnecessary ‘stereotypes.’ This is not a movement seeking ‘equal rights,’ but a movement seeking to obliterate our God-given distinctions between male and female.”
Really? The school system plans to amputate all the kids' genitalia? Make them undergo gene therapy to rid them of those pesky sex chromosomes?
Gimme a break.
The bible-thumpers are just pissed because the school system is catering to homosexuals. They just don't have to balls to come out and say it.
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That said, I also do not believe in this "gender liberation" bullcrap, but for a different reason.
IMO, the "gender liberation" stuff is just a head-in-the-sand reaction. The school administrators don't want to tackle the difficulties of dealing with kids who have non-standard gender identities. So they decided to just pretend that the kids don't have any gender identity. It's like sticking your fingers in your ears and talking loudly, to keep from hearing something.
Also, if the school administrators try to actively prevent the kids from developing gender identity, they won't be "liberating" the kids. They'll be hindering the kids' psychological development.
Also, if the school administrators try to actively prevent the kids from developing gender identity, they won't be "liberating" the kids. They'll be hindering the kids' psychological development.
While i agree with that statement, to them its liberating to be assimilated into the "gray mass" they are creating for the future. No individuality allowed in their utopian world. Independent thought is a threat, remember.
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On the contrary, "gender liberation" is not "head in the sand," it's a frontal assault by the minority on the vast majority, and the ones that it hurts are those who can't afford to take their kids out of the public schools. Morale will plummet further than ever, and Liberals will throw (waste) even more of our money to find out why, and their conclusion will be that bad parenting has caused the majority's kids to be raised as bigots. Then they'll come out with further indoctrination and other idiocies.
Blacktree, you don't need to be religious (thumping a Koran or any other book) to realize how asinine this is. Even Mr. Spock said that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
Even if the gays are right (and I am not conceding) in their "one in ten" figure - I believe it to be grossly exaggerated, by a factor of at least five - and all of them are gender confused, then ninety percent of the kids are not. In a school of 1600 (like mine in suburban Boston), that's 1440 that do not need to question which bathroom that they need to pee in. How much money is this costing the taxpayers?
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
What the heck is in the water over there in California?
I don't know. What is in the water where you are? Maybe that is what is making you confuse an opinion piece with journalism. This hasn't happened, and apparently there is no indication of its likelihood other then the questionably motivated accusations of a lawyer. Non story.
Another reason to eliminate public schools. If a parent want to sent their kid to a school that teaches in this style, then let them choose to do so. Instead only people who can afford to send their kids to private schools get a choice. Everyone else has to put up with these legally mandated (re)education establishments.
I think you meant to say, "another reason to eliminate Kalifornia."
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I forgot you don't take too kindly to people bagging on California.
Well, it's more that I don't like when reality is distorted. It just so happens that the raving nut bags jump on any rediculous tale that has California in the Dateline, the loonier the better it seems. And the raving but bags never fact check. I would think the story has a firm foundation in fiction no matter what state it was alleged to occur in. All it takes is reading the article with the barest sliver of critical thought to realize that the sky really isn't falling.
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Posts: 25242 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Well, it's more that I don't like when reality is distorted. It just so happens that the raving nut bags jump on any rediculous tale that has California in the Dateline, the loonier the better it seems. And the raving but bags never fact check. I would think the story has a firm foundation in fiction no matter what state it was alleged to occur in. All it takes is reading the article with the barest sliver of critical thought to realize that the sky really isn't falling.
NO MORE BLACK AND DARK BROWN CARS WILL BE ALLOWED IN CALIFORNIA!!!
But then again, we knew the differences in girls and boys.
