I post guns for sale in political threads to remind all of you that they will be extremely important to your families safety in the future. Just look at all the BS coming down the pike, nothing is getting better. Obama will wiggle his way back into the White House, and this time around its no holds barred on our liberties. Be prepared.
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The problem with the GOP is they will only go with female or black men as a candidate as a Hail Mary pass. Weak Sauce Romney is going to be the candidate Obama runs against.
You notice Bachman is no longer on the radar. Cain is just the punching bag to keep the focus off Romney. Perry is fading fast, and ruining his opportunities to even get a shot at VP.
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The problem with the GOP is they will only go with female or black men as a candidate as a Hail Mary pass. Weak Sauce Romney is going to be the candidate Obama runs against.
That assumes that the GOP has picked all these candidates, if you believe that.
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Number four has come forward. This will either put the final nail into his candidacy or get him HUGE campaign contributions. Either way, I can't see this working for the "Moral Majority."
Sharon Bialek, Herman Cain Accuser, Speaks Alongside Attorney Gloria Allred At Press Conference (VIDEO)
Sharon Bialek, the fourth woman to come out and make sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain, appeared alongside her attorney Gloria Allred at a press conference on Monday.
According to Bialek, the Republican presidential candidate exhibited inappropriate behavior when he was serving as head of the National Restaurant Association more than a decade ago.
Bialek said the alleged incident in question occurred down the street from the NRA headquarters. Describing what happened, she said, "Instead of going into the offices, he suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg, up my skirt, and towards my genitals." She recalled that when she protested the advances, Cain said, "You want a job, right?"
Bialek alleged that Cain also "grabbed [her] head and brought it towards his crotch." She said that she was "shocked" by the behavior.
After losing her job, Bialek allegedly turned to Cain for help. Allred said on Monday, "Mr. Cain instead decided to try to provide her with his idea of a stimulus package."
According to Bialek, the alleged incident occurred at a bar in the nation's capital in 1997. She said Cain worked to arrange a "palatial suite" for her at a hotel and told her, "I upgraded you."
Bialek said, "I'm coming forward to give a face and a voice to the women." Three other women have leveled sexual harassment allegations against Cain, though their names have not been publicly disclosed.
The New York Times reports:
In an interview after Ms. Bialek’s news conference, Joel P. Bennett, a lawyer for one of Mr. Cain’s anonymous accusers, said that Ms. Bialek’s claims were “very similar” in nature to the incident that occurred between his client and Mr. Cain.
The Cain campaign was quick to come out with a statement on the accusations, calling the charges of sexual harassment "false."
"Just as the country finally begins to refocus on our crippling $15 trillion national debt and the unacceptably high unemployment rate, now activist celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred is bringing forth more false accusations against the character of Republican front-runner Herman Cain," said the presidential hopeful's campaign. "All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false. Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone. Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain’s bold "999 Plan," clear foreign policy vision and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks."
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I think there are *two* GOPs. You have the "new guys" who embrace the Tea Party movement, and you have the old guard GOP that is part of the Washington establishment who do NOT want things to change. I have no use for the latter, and am doing everything I can to kick their ass nine ways to Sunday.
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The lame stream media will crucify any R or TP candidate of any indiscretion, but will give a pass to any D accused of the same thing. Clinton got a free pass, but Anthony Weiner did finally quit as the Ds finally convinced him to leave. There are those out there who do hire scum D lawyers who will make some political hay on any subject that can cloud issues on opposition candidates.
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On whether he anticipates additional charges of sexual harassment could arise on top of the handful that came to light over the past week, Cain said on Tuesday, "There will probably be others" because there's "a machine" working to keep "a businessman out of the White House." He added that if more accusations continue to surface, he "will continue to respond."
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Where there's smoke there's fire. Just kidding. Maybe. The jury is still out on this one. Time will tell. Maybe. I haven't made up my mind on the harassment charges. I have made up my mind on his intelligence. How in the he'll did he get rich and not me?
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Where there's smoke there's fire. Just kidding. Maybe. The jury is still out on this one. Time will tell. Maybe. I haven't made up my mind on the harassment charges. I have made up my mind on his intelligence. How in the he'll did he get rich and not me?
I have met hundreds of very successful business owners who I would say are not all that smart. They do seem to have a few things in common. They set high goals, and develop the work ethics to achieve those goals. Some make it (overnight) in as little as ten years! Many hocked everything they had.
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I think there are *two* GOPs. You have the "new guys" who embrace the Tea Party movement, and you have the old guard GOP that is part of the Washington establishment who do NOT want things to change. I have no use for the latter, and am doing everything I can to kick their ass nine ways to Sunday.
I don’t frankly know which is more laughable: Karl Rove’s claim that Gloria Allred’s representation of Sharon Bialek makes her claims more credible. My first question in response to this assertion is: Among whom? I don’t know a single person, apart from leftists, or Karl Rove, who thinks Allred adds credibility. Most people view Allred as a carnival barker, selling side-show attractions on the basis of hyped assertions that are most often subsequently undermined by facts. More, I don’t know who thinks Karl Rove has any credibility on the question of this matter, with respect to Herman Cain. As I’ve asked before in a different context, why should we believe Karl Rove now? Wasn’t it Karl Rove less than a week ago telling us “Cain is finished,” while prognosticating on Fox News? In the days that followed, Cain didn’t decline in the polls as Rove predicted, so now I must ask: What credibility does Karl Rove add to Gloria Allred?
Answer: None.
Karl Rove has no public credibility once you understand that he’s a master manipulator. We’ve seen all of this before, and frankly, it’s despicable. Rove is still trying to kill off the Cain candidacy in much the same we he’s successfully killed off some others. Appearing on FoxNews Tuesday, Rove said the following:
“Credibility matters here, and Gloria Allred — while she is a Democrat and a liberal Democrat and openly so — nonetheless, has been involved in a number of high-profile cases like Tiger Woods and others, where the charges have been borne out.
So this gives Ms. Bialek’s charges and accusations a little bit of credibility, and that’s what we’re talking about here — credibility.”
Sorry, but this is laughable. If you’ve forgotten last year, when Allred was engaged in another case smearing Meg Whitman, with purely political motives, she was dismantled quite thoroughly first by Mark Levin, and later by Greta Van Susteren. Allred has no credibility, and the fact that Rove now expects you to think she has credibility, while ignoring the plentiful reasons she does not, constitute more reasons why Rove has no credibility.
Sorry Karl, you’ve been debunked here too many times. Come to think of it, so has Allred. Below are the instance last year when she was clobbered by both Levin and Van Susteren:
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Herman Cain Losing Support Of Women Voters After Sexual Harassment Allegations, Poll Shows Herman Cain Women
WASHINGTON -- CBS News has a new poll up on the GOP presidential race. And while the top line numbers seem relatively unchanged -- Newt Gingrich is rising, Mitt Romney remains near the top, Herman Cain is leading -- the takeaway narrative isn't all that good for the former Godfather's Pizza CEO.
"Cain has lost support among women since last month -- from 28 percent in October to 15 percent now," the poll reveals.
The problem, naturally, is the series of past sexual harassment allegations that have been leveled at Cain in recent weeks. At least four women have claimed Cain harassed them while he headed the National Restaurant Association in the late 1990's, claims that have likely persuaded 30 percent of all respondents to say that they are now less likely to back his candidacy. That number rises to 38 percent when restricted to female respondents.
And yet, Cain has some staying power. Though it is a national poll, which carries less weight than a poll of Iowa or New Hampshire voters, Cain still leads with 18 percent, followed by Romney and Gingrich, who are both at 15 percent.
"Support for both Cain and Romney has declined since late last month, and Gingrich is the only one of the top three whose support is steadily -- if slowly -- on the upswing."
One caveat: Seventy percent of respondents said it is still too early to pick a candidate.
UPDATE: Making matters worse for Cain: He wasn't doing too well with women voters in the first place. As the Center for Responsive Politics reported, even before the sexual harassment allegations surfaced, the Cain campaign was struggling to secure money from women donors.
In terms of receiving political donations from the ladies, Cain's fund-raising so far this year has been slightly lower than nearly all of his rivals.
For its part, Cain's campaign has relied on women for about 25.1 percent of its money, according to estimates by the Center for Responsive Politics. That ranks Cain behind all but two other current candidates."
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Rush Limbaugh defended his recent comments about "synchronized menstrual cycles" during his radio show on Friday.
Limbaugh made the initial comment on Thursday, in response to a remark made by Karen Kraushaar, the second woman who went public after alleging she was sexually harassed by Herman Cain.
While speaking to the press, Kraushaar said that she wanted to arrange a joint press conference for all the accusers to come forward. Limbaugh jokingly asked why Kraushaar would propose a joint appearance. "Do they want to synchronize their menstrual periods? Why appear together?" Limbaugh asked on Thursday.
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Herman's loss is Newt's gain? Personally, I think Newt is very intelligent and knows how to play the system. The first is a good thing the second might lose my vote. And, the, there's Newt's personal life.
Newt Gingrich Is Surging, Two New Polls Confirm Newt Gingrich Polls
WASHINGTON -- First it was Donald Trump. Then Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry and Herman Cain all took turns surging to first or second place in national polls on the Republican presidential contest, alongside Mitt Romney. Now it's Newt Gingrich's turn, as two new national polls show Gingrich rising to the top.
A survey of Republicans conducted by CNN and ORC International shows Gingrich supporters increasing from 8 percent in mid-October to 22 percent over the weekend, just 2 points behind Romney supporters (at 24 percent, although the small gap between the two is not statistically significant). Meanwhile, Cain's support in the CNN polls has fallen 11 points (from 25 to 14 percent).
A new automated telephone poll of likely Republican primary voters from the Democratic-affiliated firm Public Policy Polling similarly shows Gingrich gaining 13 points (from 15 to 28 percent), but its results for Cain and Romney are different. PPP shows a smaller decline for Cain (from 30 to 25 percent) and puts Romney well behind (at 18 percent).
The differences in candidate rankings across these and other surveys likely results from variations in the way pollsters go about choosing Republicans to interview and measuring their national vote preferences. Since this exercise is somewhat artificial -- parties select their nominees through a series of primary elections and party caucuses featuring highly variable turnout rates, rather than a single national primary -- the precise level of support for any candidate is less important than consistent trends across different polls.
On that score, the new CNN and PPP polls confirm what seven other national surveys updated in November have shown: Support for Gingrich is rising fast. A Marist/McClatchy survey released last week showed his support rising 13 percentage points since September (from 6 to 19 percent). Six more national surveys conducted earlier in November show support for the former House speaker increasing by between 4 and 9 percentage points since earlier in the fall.
The nine November polls differ most in the trends they reveal in support for businessman Herman Cain, but that is to be expected since only four were fielded all or in part after Sharon Bialek came forward to make sexual harassment allegations against Cain. The four most recent surveys all find Cain's support declining.
The HuffPost Pollster trend chart, which combines all available public polls, shows the sharp increase in support for Gingrich along with the more modest downturn for Cain.
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Gloria Cain Fox News Interview: Herman Cain 'Totally Respects Women', Claims Don't Ring True Gloria Cain Fox News Interview Herman Cain
Herman Cain's wife says sexual harassment allegations facing her husband don't ring true because he "totally respects women."
In an interview with Fox News' Greta Van Susteren that is scheduled to air on Monday evening, Gloria Cain stands by her husband's side. She said she could not believe the charges levied against him, telling Van Susteren: "I'm thinking he would have to have a split personality to do the things that were said."
"You hear the graphic allegations and we know that would have been something that's totally disrespectful of her as a woman," she said. "And I know the type of person he is. He totally respects women."
Two weeks ago, Gloria Cain was scheduled to speak on Fox News, but canceled her appearance. A few days later, Herman Cain appeared on "Geraldo At Large," revealing that his wife took the controversy "harder than I did."
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Herman Cain Stumbles On Libya Questions (VIDEO) [UPDATED] Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain struggled to answer a question about U.S. foreign policy toward Libya in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel editorial board Monday.
"Okay, Libya," said Cain, glancing up. "President Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the removal of [Muammar] Gaddafi. Just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say, 'Yes, I agreed. No, I didn't agree,'" said Cain.
"I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason," Cain started, before cutting himself off. "Nope, that's a different one." Cain shifted in his chair, adjusted his jacket and looked up again.
"I got all this stuff twirling around in my head," he added.
Cain repeated he would have "assessed the [Libyan] opposition differently," speaking in generalities about his problem-solving approach.
Cain raised broader questions about the nature of the Libyan opposition. "It's not a clear yes-no answer, because all of those things I think should have been assessed, that's what I'm saying."
"And you don't think they were assessed?" asked an editorial board member.
"I don't know that they were or were not assessed. I didn't see reports of that assessment," Cain responded.
Cain has made multiple foreign policy gaffes in his campaign. Earlier this month, he warned China was "trying to develop a nuclear capability," though the country tested a nuclear device in October 1964. When asked whether he was prepared to answer "gotcha" questions in October, he said, "When they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I'm going to say, you know, 'I don't know. Do you know?'" Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Afghan President Hamid Karzai later joked about the exchange.
In the editorial board interview, Cain also expressed support for collective bargaining rights and suggested that Ohio Gov. John Kasich went too far in trying to strip public employees of those rights.
This stumble is just the latest to roil the GOP primary. At a debate last week, Cain's rival, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, was unable to remember the three federal agencies he would cut as president. After naming two, Perry took nearly a minute to regain his bearings before conceding, "I can't think of the third one. I can't. Sorry. Oops." He later clarified that he had been thinking of the Department of Energy.
UPDATE:
The Cain campaign tried to downplay the clip later in the day.
"The video is being taken out of context," Cain spokesman JD Gordon said, according to MSNBC. "He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn't say anything wrong or inaccurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya."
Gordon added, "It just took him a while to gain his bearings."
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Gingrich Reportedly Got $1.6 Million From Freddie Mac
In recent months, GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has strongly criticized Freddie Mac and sister company Fannie Mae, as well as Democrats in Congress that he claims played a key role in the collapse of the housing market. And yet two former Freddie Mac officials recently told Bloomberg that Gingrich made between $1.6 million and $1.8 million in consulting fees from the mortgage company.
That amount is significantly larger than the $300,000 payment that Gingrich was asked about during a Republican presidential debate on Nov. 9.
The Freddie Mac officials also told Bloomberg that Gingrich was asked to build bridges with Capitol Hill Republicans and help sell the mortgage company's public-private structure to conservatives.
While campaigning in Iowa this week, the former House Speaker disputed these claims. "I do no lobbying of any kind, and I offered strategic advice and that's all I do," Gingrich said. "I don't go to the Hill. I don't lobby in any way. I haven't for the years I've left the speakership, period."
In a discussion with HuffPost's Jon Ward Tuesday, Gingrich made similar claims.
"I have no idea what the dates were. I offered strategic advice over a period of time. I did no lobbying of any kind. And I'm very happy to offer people strategic advice if they come and ask my advice," he said.
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