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Rick Perry Raises Predator Drones As Possible Border Security Solution by blackrams
Started on: 08-16-2011 03:18 PM
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Report this Post08-17-2011 04:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTClick Here to Email Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Just to answer the first question..................... yep, great idea

Arn

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Originally posted by Silentassassin185:

I still don't understand why we don't stick the National Guard on the border doing their job *duh* Guarding the Nation. M16s with orders to shoot to kill trespassers because they are illegal immigrants. Bet we'd be amazed how quick things change IMHO


Probably because the crime of tresspassing is not a summarily executable offense in this country (save PERHAPS the castle doctrine, but they are not breaking into anyone's house..) and we try to hold ourselves to a higher moral standard than THAT.

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Originally posted by tbone42:


Probably because the crime of tresspassing is not a summarily executable offense in this country (save PERHAPS the castle doctrine, but they are not breaking into anyone's house..) and we try to hold ourselves to a higher moral standard than THAT.



Speak for yourself, my moral standards say it's OK to kill someone to protect my family.

Someone taking this out of proportion in 3...2...1..

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

In the mid 90's my Apache unit patrolled the New Mexico/Mexico border for a month. Our pilots would radio in any activity that they observed to the border patrol. It was a good way to give our pilots stick time and help out the border patrol.



I'm curious how effective it was overall? Sure, *you* can spot a flea10 miles away hiding under a rock in one of those things, but by the time the ground troops arrive i would figure they would be long gone, just like in the case of using predators today. Too much open land, too few people on the ground.
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Originally posted by Nurb432:


I'm curious how effective it was overall? Sure, *you* can spot a flea10 miles away hiding under a rock in one of those things, but by the time the ground troops arrive i would figure they would be long gone, just like in the case of using predators today. Too much open land, too few people on the ground.


I may be wrong ( I am after all married), but I believe the drones can track, and just stay above the target for long enough for ground troops to intercept.

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Originally posted by tbone42:


Probably because the crime of tresspassing is not a summarily executable offense in this country (save PERHAPS the castle doctrine, but they are not breaking into anyone's house..) and we try to hold ourselves to a higher moral standard than THAT.



How is that a higher moral standard to let things slide? They *are* invaders.
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Originally posted by twofatguys:


I may be wrong ( I am after all married), but I believe the drones can track, and just stay above the target for long enough for ground troops to intercept.

Brad


Sure, but you have a group of 50.. they spit up. Which one do you track and hope to catch? We need a REAL fence.. if they cant get here alive, we don't have to worry about tracking them down.

Sound heartless? Ok, guilty. There are ( too many ) legal ways to get here, so i wont shed a tear for those that don't do it the right way.
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Report this Post08-17-2011 05:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Click Here to Email 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
Fences don’t work when they are tunneling under it.

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Originally posted by Nurb432:


Sure, but you have a group of 50.. they spit up. Which one do you track and hope to catch? We need a REAL fence.. if they cant get here alive, we don't have to worry about tracking them down.

Sound heartless? Ok, guilty. There are ( too many ) legal ways to get here, so i wont shed a tear for those that don't do it the right way.


Usually the drones are high enough that they are not spotted by whomever they are tracking. If they split up them there should be some device that implants in each person to aid in tracking, or to slow them down. Something heavy and easy to deploy over long distances with relative accuracy. I wonder if there is such a thing.

 
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

Fences don’t work when they are tunneling under it.

Steve



I'm still for making the area around the border a "test" area for weapons, and sensors. I'm sure we could pay off the national debt if they put it on pay per view.

Brad

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Originally posted by twofatguys:

Usually the drones are high enough that they are not spotted by whomever they are tracking. If they split up them there should be some device that implants in each person to aid in tracking, or to slow them down. Something heavy and easy to deploy over long distances with relative accuracy. I wonder if there is such a thing.



Deployed via 50 cal bullet?
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

Fences don’t work when they are tunneling under it.

Steve



if you have a *real* fence, it will stop all but the hard core. Sure you cant stop 100% but you can stop 90...
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:


Had to post that in this "non political" thread, because it's so true.

If you don't want my opinion on your politics, know that I have politics unchecked in this forum.
If you label your political posts appropriately, I'll never see and be tempted by the low hanging fruit.




But, your opinion is of some value. I welcome your posts. I have hope that some day you'll see the light and change your position to one more centrist. You know, that Hope and Change you can believe in thing.

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:


Because Governor Rick Perry is a candidate for President of the United States.
That's as political as you can get.


First, hes NOT a candidate...hes only put himself in the running to be made a candidate.

2nd, George Washington didnt like cherry trees. Would you mark a thread on cherry trees political....? He WAS a president.

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Perry bills the Feds $ 349 Million for incarcerated illegals.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/P...ault.aspx?id=1419978
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Originally posted by turbotoad:

Armed with friggin' lasers...


thats what we need in the rio grande frickin sharks with fickin lasers on thier head!

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