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Wisconsin politics is really going into the crapper AGAIN by phonedawgz
Started on: 08-10-2011 12:32 AM
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Report this Post08-10-2011 12:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageClick Here to Email phonedawgzSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
So at 11:30 on the election night of the 6 Republicans

The Democrats would need to pick up 3 to take control of the Senate

3 have been called for the Republicans

2 are called for the Democrats

The last is leaning Republican however the county clerk who caused issues with mis-reporting numbers is slow in reporting her numbers. Election fraud has been mentioned already.

My prediction - This is going to make recall elections the new norm. The party not in power will attempt recall elections much more often. More campaigning. More partisanship. More decisions of elected officials being affected by money.
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Report this Post08-10-2011 12:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobearClick Here to Email fierobearSend a Private Message to fierobearDirect Link to This Post
Sorry to say this, I know you live in Wisconsin, but if the majority really wants Democrats, and they really want their state to be insolvent so they can have pay and benefits the state can't afford, then let 'em have it. Just don't come to any of us to bail their ass out. Same goes for California. I'm stuck here, but I'll either survive or I'll leave the state if that becomes impossible.
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Report this Post08-10-2011 02:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageClick Here to Email phonedawgzSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
The majority of teachers want Democrats.

We have a Republican House, Republican Senate, and Republican Governor. And with these joke recall elections a majority of the races have gone Republican. That is even with 'We Are Wisconsin", a out of state group dumping millions of union dollars into the election to try to buy the Democrats some seats.
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Well the union money dumped into the state helps the state's economy. Puts some funds circulating, giving funds to the printers, radio stations, TV stations and some low paid phone banks.
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The unions lost! The Republicans held the state Senate and hold control. With the possibility of a loss of one or two Democratic seats next week in the last round of recall elections the majority may go right back where it started. Almost 40 million dollars to support the Democratic minority in the Wisconsin Senate. Lets see them go recall Governor Walker now.

Unions = FAIL

Mark the proud Wisconsinite
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The unions lost! The Republicans held the state Senate and hold control. With the possibility of a loss of one or two Democratic seats next week in the last round of recall elections the majority may go right back where it started. Almost 40 million dollars to support the Democratic minority in the Wisconsin Senate. Lets see them go recall Governor Walker now.

Unions = FAIL

Mark the proud Wisconsinite


Hee hee hee. Thanks for the good news. Best wishes to folks in Wisconsin, I hope you can clean up your state. Maybe you can send us conservatives in California care packages when my state collapses under the weight of our communist government.

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Report this Post08-10-2011 10:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Click Here to Email avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
The crybabies didn't win last night. Maybe now they will accept the changes that need to be done.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

That is even with 'We Are Wisconsin", a out of state group dumping millions of union dollars into the election to try to buy the Democrats some seats.



It is WORSE than that.

For the democrat campaigns, NINETY PERCENT of their campaign financing came from OUT OF STATE.

NINETY PERCENT.
And yet the people of Wisconsin STILL have stood up and said they want the reforms that are being made.

And when the people actually continue to SEE the jobs that have been and will be created, and actually SEE that the school systems haven't "been devastated" by the school funding changes (a huge lie repeated during the campaigns, among MANY others), and that we have REPAID the BILLION dolllar deficits rung up by the democrats, then in future elections, people will restore and increase the number of republican seats.

A HUGE loss today for democrats, union liars and manipulators, and socialists in Wisconsin.
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The Republican Party won a great victory over the Big Union bosses and Obama Democrats last night, and we could not have done it without the support you have given the RNC.

Last November, Wisconsin voters elected new leaders to get their state back on track. When they did, union bosses lost their allies in the state house and vowed to stop at nothing to return Wisconsin to the failed politics-as-usual. They orchestrated a recall election for selfish political retribution -- all the while Governor Scott Walker and Republicans in Wisconsin worked to put people back to work and turned deficits into surpluses.

Yesterday, Wisconsin voters reaffirmed their support of Republican leadership in their state and rejected the reckless spending of Wisconsin Democrats and the downgrade-inducing policies of their Washington counterparts. The people have given their seal of approval to Republicans' successful efforts to balance the budget and ensure a healthy economy.
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Wisconsin Union Council Bans Republicans From Labor Day Parade. This is to be expected from sore losers.
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A Wisconsin labor council that sponsors the Labor Day parade in Wausau is giving Republican lawmakers their walking papers — in the form of banning them from walking in the parade this year — saying they are unfriendly to union workers.

The action is the latest salvo in the political fallout from Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s reining in collective-bargaining rights for public employees to cut the state budget. Republicans supported the measure, while Democrats were so opposed that several senators fled the state to avoid voting on it.

The controversy over the proposals in February and March sparked a summer of discontented recall elections in which Republicans ultimately retained control of the Senate in the Badger State, where they also hold the Governor’s Mansion and the state Assembly.

"Usually they've been in the parade, but it seems like they only want to stand with us one day a year, and the other 364 days they don't really care," said Randy Radtke, president of the Marathon County Central Labor Council, which includes about 30 local unions.

According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Radtke noted that Labor Day is intended to celebrate what the labor movement has provided for working men and women, such as a 40-hour work week, child labor protection, and a safe working environment, according to the Journal-Sentinel.

"It should come as no surprise that organizers choose not to invite elected officials who have openly attacked worker's rights or stood idly by while their political party fought to strip public workers of their right to collectively bargain," Radtke said.

"When Scott Walker leveled his assault on workers and workers rights, the local Republicans followed in lock step with him," Radtke said.

Republican State Sen. State Sen. Pam Galloway pushed back against the ban, according to WSAW-TV, saying: "I'm a worker, you're a worker, we're not represented by unions. It's not appropriate for the citizens of the city of Wausau to be deprived of contact with their elected representatives. When I go to these parades, I try to talk with people before the parade actually starts."


Republican Congressman Sean Duffy’s office also criticized the ban during the weekend, issuing a statement saying, "Having walked in this parade in past years, Congressman Duffy was hoping that for a moment, we could set our differences aside and simply have some fun in a family-friendly event."

WSAW-TV also quoted the Republican Party of Lincoln County as saying that the parade’s tradition now will end over "petty and short sighted anger toward legally elected officials."

Republicans hope to resolve the conflict with Wausau city officials before Labor Day, which is Monday, WSAW reported.

The parade’s grand marshal, by the way, is slated to be a Democrat: State Rep. Donna Seidel of Wausau.

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Dunno if this has been posted previously, but is important info:

Wisconsin schools buck union to cut health costs

The Hartland-Lakeside School District, about 30 miles west of Milwaukee in tiny Hartland, Wis., had a problem in its collective bargaining contract with the local teachers union.
The contract required the school district to purchase health insurance from a company called WEA Trust. The creation of Wisconsin's largest teachers union -- "WEA" stands for Wisconsin Education Association -- WEA Trust made money when union officials used collective bargaining agreements to steer profitable business its way.

The problem for Hartland-Lakeside was that WEA Trust was charging significantly higher rates than the school district could find on the open market. School officials knew that because they got a better deal from United HealthCare for coverage of nonunion employees. On more than one occasion, Superintendent Glenn Schilling asked WEA Trust why the rates were so high. "I could never get a definitive answer on that," says Schilling.

Changing to a different insurance company would save Hartland-Lakeside hundreds of thousands of dollars that could be spent on key educational priorities -- especially important since the cash-strapped state government was cutting back on education funding. But teachers union officials wouldn't allow it; the WEA Trust requirement was in the contract, and union leaders refused to let Hartland-Lakeside off the hook.

That's where Wisconsin's new budget law came in. The law, bitterly opposed by organized labor in the state and across the nation, limits the collective bargaining powers of some public employees. And it just happens that the Hartland-Lakeside teachers' collective bargaining agreement expired on June 30. So now, freed from the expensive WEA Trust deal, the school district has changed insurers.

"It's going to save us about $690,000 in 2011-2012," says Schilling. Insurance costs that had been about $2.5 million a year will now be around $1.8 million. What union leaders said would be a catastrophe will in fact be a boon to teachers and students.

But the effect of weakening collective bargaining goes beyond money. It also has the potential to reshape the adversarial culture that often afflicts public education. In Hartland-Lakeside, there's been no war between union-busting bureaucrats on one side and impassioned teachers on the other; Schilling speaks with great collegiality toward the teachers and says with pride that they've been able to work together on big issues. But there has been a deep division between the school district and top union executives.

In the health insurance talks, for example, Schilling last year began telling teachers about different insurance plans, some of which, like United HealthCare's, required a higher deductible. "We involved them, and they overwhelmingly endorsed the change to United HealthCare," he says. But even with the teachers on board, when school officials presented a change-in-coverage proposal to union officials, it was immediately rejected. The costly WEA Trust deal stayed in place.

Now, with the collective bargaining agreement gone, Schilling looks forward to working more closely with teachers. "I would say the biggest change is we have a lot more involvement with a wider scope of teachers," he says. When collective bargaining was in effect, "We dealt with a select team of teachers, a small group of three or four who were on the bargaining team, and then the union director. Any information that went to the teachers went through them. Now, we feel that we will have a direct dialogue."

It's not hard to see why union officials hate the new law so much. It not only breaks up cherished and lucrative union monopolies like high-cost health insurance; it also threatens to break through the union-built wall between teachers and administrators and allow the two sides to work together more closely. The old union go-betweens, who controlled what their members could and could not hear, will be left aside.

Hartland-Lakeside isn't the only school district that is pulling free from collective bargaining agreements that mandated WEA Trust coverage. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the Pewaukee School District, not far from Hartland-Lakeside, will save $378,000 by next year by leaving WEA Trust. The Menomonee Falls School District, farther north, will reportedly save $1.3 million. Facing state cutbacks, the districts can't afford to overpay for union-affiliated coverage.

Look for the unions to fight back with everything they have. If the Wisconsin situation has shown anything, it is that organized labor views the collective bargaining fight as a life-or-death struggle. If the unions lose in Wisconsin, the clamor for change could spread to other states. What happened in Hartland-Lakeside could become a model for other schools looking for new and better ways to do business.
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Originally posted by Old Lar:

The Republican Party won a great victory over the Big Union bosses and Obama Democrats last night, and we could not have done it without the support you have given the RNC.



I would say it was a victory for the American People, not necessarily the GOP (although Wisconsin is the birth place of the GOP).

This is a poke in the eye to big government, socialism, breaking the backs of working Americans with over taxation, and most of all, it is a victory for the restoration of the American Middle Class.

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Republicans beat democrats to the punch.
Wisconsin Democrats Chafe as Walker Donor Files for Recall
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Wisconsin Democrats are riled because a donor to Republican Gov. Scott Walker's gubernatorial campaign pulled a surprise move and filed the paperwork to recall him instead of waiting for opponents to do so.

The move beat Democrats to the punch in their own plan to file such paperwork to recall the the controversial freshman governor.

The Democratic Party alleges that the donor filed the paperwork so that Walker could begin raising unlimited political donations. The money can be used only for certain things, such as a recall election.



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Report this Post11-07-2011 11:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for partfieroClick Here to Email partfieroSend a Private Message to partfieroDirect Link to This Post
Saw them lining up 4th graders to protest, using children for political pawns.
Where is the outrage?

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The head of the Wisconsin Firefighters Union - is outraged that Governor Walker has offered a two year tax break on Wisconsin state corporate income tax if a company moves here from another state and brings 51% of the companies jobs here also.

Apparently like most in the public worker unions, he doesn't give a crap about the unemployed in Wisconsin, but only about their own benefits.

He spent most of the days the capital infestation at the protests. Must be nice to have a job where you don't really have to work. And now the liberals think this union leader should be elected Gov, if they can get enough signatures to get a recall election going.

http://www.politifact.com/w...-walker-gave-compan/

http://www.facebook.com/MahlonMitchell

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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

The head of the Wisconsin Firefighters Union - is outraged that Governor Walker has offered a two year tax break on Wisconsin state corporate income tax if a company moves here from another state and brings 51% of the companies jobs here also.

Apparently like most in the public worker unions, he doesn't give a crap about the unemployed in Wisconsin, but only about their own benefits.

He spent most of the days the capital infestation at the protests. Must be nice to have a job where you don't really have to work. And now the liberals think this union leader should be elected Gov, if they can get enough signatures to get a recall election going.

http://www.politifact.com/w...-walker-gave-compan/

http://www.facebook.com/MahlonMitchell



Weren't the firefighters spared from the pay cuts, etc? You'd think they'd be lining up for the Republicans.
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It's too bad that ******* has civil service protection.

Tom Barrett was right, the act 10 reforms should have applied to the ridiculous privileges of all the public unionistas. Fire and police should not have been exempted.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

So at 11:30 on the election night of the 6 Republicans

The Democrats would need to pick up 3 to take control of the Senate

3 have been called for the Republicans

2 are called for the Democrats

The last is leaning Republican however the county clerk who caused issues with mis-reporting numbers is slow in reporting her numbers. Election fraud has been mentioned already.

My prediction - This is going to make recall elections the new norm. The party not in power will attempt recall elections much more often. More campaigning. More partisanship. More decisions of elected officials being affected by money.


Regardless of what happens, no new politician would ever be stupid enough to try to repeal the laws the governor just passed. As much as the Democrats want to say they support the unions... it would be total murder to put it back. It would immediately destroy the budget, and no one is that stupid... maybe I'm just niave...
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Regardless of what happens, no new politician would ever be stupid enough to try to repeal the laws the governor just passed. As much as the Democrats want to say they support the unions... it would be total murder to put it back. It would immediately destroy the budget, and no one is that stupid... maybe I'm just niave...


I'm just curious how the next elections will go.
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