Van Dammes opponent is a two time olympic gold medalist in boxing. He has competed in muay thai events in Thailand (most brutal sport in the world) and is 12 years his junior.
Van Damme obviously has confidence in his fight skills, remember he held a breif 20-2 (17 KOs) professional Kickboxing record before becoming a star in the 80s.
And YOU KNOW that since the fight will be held outside of the United States they will not test van damme for steroids or human growth hormone. Plus he is signifigintly heavier than his Thai adversary.
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Posts: 9105 From: Indy southside, IN Registered: Jul 2009
I just did a Google search, and apparently, they were supposed to fight back in '09, but it kept getting pushed back with venue changes. It was originally supposed to be in Vegas, but they wouldn't give him medical clearance, so they changed it to Moscow, and something happened and it got pushed back again and that's happened something like 5 times. Supposedly, JCVD is serious about it, but there're major issues with promotions and whatnot...
Jean Claude Van Damme to fight Somluck Khamsing in Thailand’s National Stadium
It seems that the long awaited Muay Thai / kickboxing bout between ’90s movie star Jean Claude Van Damme and Olympic gold medal winning boxer Somluck Khamsing might be heading to Thailand.
The two originally signed a contract in December 2009 with the bout expected to take place in Las Vegas but it has been repeatedly delayed with many fight fans skeptical that the contest would ever materialize.
Van Damme is best known for his role in action movies such as Bloodsport, Hard Target and Kickboxer, which was famously set in Thailand. Khamsing became the first Thai ever to win a gold medal at the Olympics, courtesy of a clean sweep in the featherweight category in 1996. Although he is primarily a boxer he has had a number of Muay Thai bouts, fighting at the King’s Cup on at least two occasions.
A world renowned actor, Van Damme did enjoy some success as a Karate fighter and kickboxer but has not competed at any level since 1981. He was also widely reported to have suffered a minor heart attack last October although his representatives strenuously denied this story.
Various venues had been suggested with Russia the most recent but it now appears that the bout could take place at the National Stadium in Bangkok in November 2011. If the fight does go ahead, which given all the previous postponements is far from guaranteed, it will be interesting to see whether the Thai public are sufficiently interested to fill what is one of the biggest stadiums in the country.
Aged 38, Khamsing has a considerable advantage in both age and experience. Van Damme might have held a world title in karate and fared well in a couple of kickboxing competitions but the standard in these disciplines is nowhere near as high as that in amateur boxing, the sport in which Khamsing once excelled. The biggest challenge for the Olympic gold medallist will be presented by his opponent’s superior size, Van Damme could conceivably be 20kg heavier when they step inside the ring.
It seems that Phillip Wong, who owns the world famous Fairtex chain of Muay Thai gyms, is now the main sponsor for the fight which might explain why the venue has been switched to Thailand. There is also the issue of sanctioning as the Nevada State Athletic Commission, who have jurisdiction over Las Vegas where the fight was initially supposed to take place, might be reluctant to allow a 50 year old who has suffered from mental health problems in the past (Van Damme was once diagnosed with a bi polar disorder) to take part in any sort of a licensed professional fight.
Van Damme will presumably spend time training for the fight at one of the Fairtex gyms which will provide some valuable publicity for Wong in return for his sponsorship. It will be interesting to see how much interest there is in Thailand. Khamsing has appeared in movies himself and is well known but Van Damme is probably not as much of an attraction here as he would be in the West. It may be arguably the freakshow fight of the century but from a sporting point of view there is little to recommend this contest and filling a venue as vast as the national stadium in Bangkok will be no easy task.
The fight will take place under modified Muay Thai rules and elbows will be banned, presumably in order to minimalize the risk of Van Damme getting cut. It would be easy to write it off as a publicity stunt but it appears to be something that Van Damme genuinely wants to do. He appears to have become more contemplative and introspective in his work in recent years and his career has taken a dramatically different turn. The all action movies of the ’80s and ’90s have been replaced by some more serious, less slapstick efforts such as Until Death, in which he plays a cop addicted to heroin, and JCVD, in which he plays a semi fictionalized version of himself. Perhaps doing a professional fight is all a part of his quest to be taken a little more seriously by people.
If the fight does go ahead there will be widespread media attention and it could be a major boost for the burgeoning Muay Thai tourism industry in Thailand. Although they will not please the purists match ups such as this, where a difference in size potentially compensates for a disparity in experience, can actually be quite exciting. If Khamsing and Van Damme do eventually step inside of the ring it should make for an extremely entertaining evening.
Thanks to Science of the 8 Limbs for bringing this to my attention. If you are interested in Muay Thai this is one of the best websites out there.
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Posts: 85 From: Rossville, GA Registered: Jun 2011
Very interesting read Hopefully it goes through on November I want tickets, too bad its in Thailand, possibly Japan (under modified K-1 kickboxing rules).
sorry but my only hero is Van Damme, he ruined his life with drugs for 20 years and became a sack of potatoes and now at age 50 wants to reconcile
Thank god I ruined my life in my teen years and learned my lessons early to not be 50 and desperate for redemption. I am young and I will make a difference in this world, thats not a promise that is a garuntee
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I don't hate you, and I'm not sad. I couldn't care less about you, actually. I just wish that you'd respect forum rules and not keep making new accounts.
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Posts: 36450 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
I just wish that you'd respect forum rules and not keep making new accounts.
I don't know the fella you're referring to, but it appears that signing up under a new user name after being banned is no longer an issue here (if it ever was).
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Posts: 9105 From: Indy southside, IN Registered: Jul 2009
Wasn't it you that got mistaken for someone else, and almost banned, when you first posted in OT?
It wasn't in O/T, but yes. I'm not going to rate him--I've only rated a few people as negative and they REALLY deserved it.
I welcome him back and I hope that he is respectful on here.
But yeah, this is ShadowHawk ShadowHawk LOVED Van Damme. Talked about him all of the time. ShadowHawk is in martial arts and talked about it. ShadowHawk loved Aryan women, and talked about it a lot.
Val_Evans has already mentioned his martial arts, made a Van Damme thread, and posted in the Kim Kardashian thread about how he wished she was blonde and European. Not to mention he posts the exact same way.
If I'm wrong, they're like long-lost twins.
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Look at the whole picture here. Unlike other guys that were banned and keep coming back just to start more bullshit, he obviously enjoys the discussions on this forum and is consistant and proud of his Fiero build-up. Just leave the guy alone. If he, or other members in the future, start the insults and arguements, then rate him. Until then, give the guy a chance here. Don't keep banning him because of his first account on here. Hell, I was banned years ago because I was a raging alcoholic and ALL I did on this forum was insult people. Now that I am a father of 2, I am a whole different person so people change with age. Cut the guy some slack.
Look at the whole picture here. Unlike other guys that were banned and keep coming back just to start more bullshit, he obviously enjoys the discussions on this forum and is consistant and proud of his Fiero build-up. Just leave the guy alone. If he, or other members in the future, start the insults and arguements, then rate him. Until then, give the guy a chance here. Don't keep banning him because of his first account on here. Hell, I was banned years ago because I was a raging alcoholic and ALL I did on this forum was insult people. Now that I am a father of 2, I am a whole different person so people change with age. Cut the guy some slack.
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It wasn't in O/T, but yes. I'm not going to rate him--I've only rated a few people as negative and they REALLY deserved it.
I welcome him back and I hope that he is respectful on here.
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Posts: 10273 From: California Registered: Aug 2007
ohh great back again... what is this #6 time around? well dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out again. On the other hand let it.. might make you think about coming back again.
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Posts: 22823 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
ShadowHawk wasn't such a bad guy... last I remember he lived in Broward.
Gotta stick up for my Broward posse' !!!
Sounds to me like hes a high tech homeless... he lives all over Florida and now Georgia and still has internet access even after spending his money on his pill poping habits.
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I don't know the fella you're referring to, but it appears that signing up under a new user name after being banned is no longer an issue here (if it ever was).
Awwwwww... You pissed because I didn't ban the guy you had a fight with and who turned out to have been previously banned 5 years ago???
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Awwwwww... You pissed because I didn't ban the guy you had a fight with and who turned out to have been previously banned 5 years ago???
What, you can't be bothered to respond to my PM, yet you make an appearance here to mock me?
You make it sound like he returned five years after he was banned. He didn't. As far as I know, he returned immediately under a new name... and continues to post the same hate filled trash.
They're your rules, Cliff. If you don't wish to enforce them, fine, that's your prerogative as the man in charge.