Yeah, once again greed has taken over. I'm sorry, but somebody needs to go to jail and stay there for several years.
Feds: Immigrants Paid Up To $3K For Licenses
(CNN) -- After being accused of taking thousands from illegal immigrants in exchange for driver's licenses, a Nevada state employee might be forced to pay a hefty price after being nabbed in a multi-agency inquiry.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced Monday the results of their federal bribery investigation centered on Nancy Brown, a 28-year-old Las Vegas native.
An anonymous tip into the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles' compliance division sparked the investigation in September 2010, with the caller alleging that two people had illegally gotten driver's licenses through one of the agency's employees. The resulting joint probe eventually involved members of the State Department and the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, which describes itself as "the principal investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security."
According to Homeland Security's news release, illegal immigrants would go to a Las Vegas DMV office and wait in the lobby near Brown, a DMV technician. The federal agency said she'd then call them over to her station and fill out their "fraudulent paperwork" -- even though they didn't provide required documents to prove they were eligible for a driver's license. After taking their pictures and paying their fees, the people walked off with temporary licenses, the release said.
Authorities estimate that Brown processed 187 such illicit driver's licenses, charging between $1,700 and $3,000 for each one.
The complaint against Brown was filed April 29, and she was arrested on Thursday. The next day, she was in court to face a federal program bribery charge. U.S. Magistrate Judge George Foley Jr. released her on a personal recognizance bond, the Homeland Security Department said in its release.
"Trafficking in counterfeit document poses a serious security vulnerability, one that often contributes to a host of crimes -- including identity theft and financial fraud," said Angel Marcial, an ICE assistant special agent, in the statement on Brown's case.
CNN called the federal public defender representing Brown on Monday evening, seeking her client's response to the allegations, but hasn't received a reply.
This is the latest but hardly the only case involving people fraudulently getting driver's licenses. Earlier this spring, police arrested 11 bus drivers around New York area suspected of using phony aliases to get driver's licenses, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced in a news release.
New Mexico has also seen several such investigations.
In February, Gov. Susana Martinez said in a statement that state and federal investigators there arrested five illegal nationals of Indian descent and accused them of charging people $6,000 to illegally obtain a New Mexico driver's license. Investigators claim that the men helped these people get fake documents so they could fulfill requirements to get a license.
And in 2008, another Nevada DMV employee -- Marilyn Millender, then 52 and also from Las Vegas -- was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that she solicited and took money from illegal immigrants in exchange for driver's licenses and identity cards. After a plea agreement, she was sentenced to three years of probation and forced to pay a $1,000 fine, according to a federal court document.
Just a slap on the wrist for the crooks. They really need to be made an example of with some stiff penalties with fines equal to as much as the made from selling the driver's licenses times two.
$1000 fine and 3yrs probation--possibly unsupervised probation? And the latest DMV worker released on her own personal recognizance bond? Sheesh. What a sweet deal--for the crooks.
Jaywalking + littering fines approach that in some places.
Not much of a deterrent there is it?
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Posts: 43225 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
... somebody needs to go to jail and stay there for several years.
Okay, but I'm curious what causes you to say that. Is it because those drivers will be a danger to others? Because of the greed? Because the agent was taking advantage of the trespassers?
Okay, but I'm curious what causes you to say that. Is it because those drivers will be a danger to others? Because of the greed? Because the agent was taking advantage of the trespassers?
Yes.
Also because anyone working for the Government that uses that position to Aid Foreign Nationals in breaking the laws of the United States should be tried for treason.
Brad
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Posts: 12398 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
When I was in 7th grade, the 9th graders would sell elevator tickets to the younger kids. The school didn't have an elevator. My point is, take all the money from illegals you can, in exchange for something worthless.
But I agree it's wrong to give them aid. I wouldn't give 'em the time of day. A citizen's arrest is what I'd give em.
Okay, but I'm curious what causes you to say that. Is it because those drivers will be a danger to others? Because of the greed? Because the agent was taking advantage of the trespassers?
All the above plus the fact, that aiding them in getting an official (albeit phony) driver's license/ID, makes it so much easier for them to be hired in the place of legitimate US workers. It also opens the gateway to other state, local, and even federal benefits not easily obtainable if they did not have the state issued identification.
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Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
When I was in 7th grade, the 9th graders would sell elevator tickets to the younger kids. The school didn't have an elevator. My point is, take all the money from illegals you can, in exchange for something worthless.
But I agree it's wrong to give them aid. I wouldn't give 'em the time of day. A citizen's arrest is what I'd give em.
The Drivers license is not worthless. Without it you cannot work, drive, get a car, insure the car, get tags on the car. In some places rent a house, or open a checking account/cash paychecks, send money via Western Union back home.
It's not a made up thing like a fake elevator (you really shouldn't have bought those tickets). That's not a realistic comparison. Were you wrongly in the school? Did you get a ticket to a real elevator if you passed certain tests, and proved you were supposed to be there? Could the elevator be used to make money?
Brad
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Posts: 12398 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
$1000 fine and 3yrs probation--possibly unsupervised probation? And the latest DMV worker released on her own personal recognizance bond? Sheesh. What a sweet deal--for the crooks.
Jaywalking + littering fines approach that in some places.
Not much of a deterrent there is it?
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Posts: 11159 From: Benton County, OR Registered: Dec 2002
I’m surprised that no one has suggested privatizing the DMV function. Obviously the driver’s license has more value than commonly realized and private firm could capitalize on that. Maybe and exclusive franchise deal would help struggling States increase revenue while dumping a bunch of pension liability. How much is a driver’s license worth to you?
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Posts: 22742 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
I’m surprised that no one has suggested privatizing the DMV function. Obviously the driver’s license has more value than commonly realized and private firm could capitalize on that. Maybe and exclusive franchise deal would help struggling States increase revenue while dumping a bunch of pension liability. How much is a driver’s license worth to you?
A company called, Tinker handles or shares some of the functions of the local DMV in OKC (MidWest City). I've gone there a couple of times and they seem to be very professional.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I would hope that in addition to any jail time, she also loses her state pension.
That's a good idea. It could help balance the budget too. Anyone who is convicted of a crime forfeits their pension or 401k plan in addition to any jail sentence.
I can see a definite trend in stricter enforcement as people near retirement age.
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
A friend of my dads was talking to a mexican guy one day and he was telling him how stupid "you americans" are. A lot of the illegals will have 4 or 5 id's on them at any given time. If they get in trouble, whoops Jose Gonzales is now gone, and now they only have 3 id's. They will collect government assistance on each ID, commit crimes on the ID's and ditch them and get another.
Prepare for the demise of America. The plan has been put into effect, and it is being executed flawlessly.
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Posts: 9110 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
I almost felt bad for someone until I saw the word "illegal". If they want to be here legally, I'll give them my full support. Until then, they can rot in the same jail the DMV employee should be in.