"Hey Bill--we need to cook the books on our hiring practices--we got a notice the gubment is going to be paying us a visit".
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1,000 firms targeted for audits in illegal hiring crackdown By Laurie Segall @CNNMoney June 15, 2011: 7:35 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- In an intensifying effort to battle illegal immigration, the U.S. government sent notices to 1,000 companies on Wednesday alerting them that auditors will be examining their hiring records.
The employers, ranging from small businesses to major enterprises, will be subject to inspections by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to determine whether or not they are hiring illegal workers. The agency declined to release the names of any of the companies being audited.
Even thought it won't catch very many employers, it will kill the demand for their work. As word of this spreads among employers, most of them will stop hiring illegals.
Even thought it won't catch very many employers, it will kill the demand for their work. As word of this spreads among employers, most of them will stop hiring illegals.
I dunno Doug. I've seen lots of criminal activity in my life, and I never saw much of it permanantly desist just because the bad guys knew the cops would be around on a specific time or place. They'll cook the books or front a phoney set to the feds and go right back to doing what they were doing before.
Get RID of all the the illegals, and the employer will have to hire legal workers or go out of business. It really is that simple. Of course, that takes a political spine and it never has happened before so I guess it's too much to expect anyone to concentrate on throwing them out now.
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Posts: 9891 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
By John Dillin / July 6, 2006
WASHINGTON George W. Bush isn't the first Republican president to face a full-blown immigration crisis on the US-Mexican border.
Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond.
President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents – less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.
Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals.
General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal. He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."
Years later, the late Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said in an interview with this writer that the president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took office.
America "was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large scale," Mr. Brownell said. "When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint."
Although an on-and-off guest-worker program for Mexicans was operating at the time, farmers and ranchers in the Southwest had become dependent on an additional low-cost, docile, illegal labor force of up to 3 million, mostly Mexican, laborers.
According to the Handbook of Texas Online, published by the University of Texas at Austin and the Texas State Historical Association, this illegal workforce had a severe impact on the wages of ordinary working Americans. The Handbook Online reports that a study by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas in 1950 found that cotton growers in the Rio Grande Valley, where most illegal aliens in Texas worked, paid wages that were "approximately half" the farm wages paid elsewhere in the state.
Profits from illegal labor led to the kind of corruption that apparently worried Eisenhower. Joseph White, a retired 21-year veteran of the Border Patrol, says that in the early 1950s, some senior US officials overseeing immigration enforcement "had friends among the ranchers," and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers.
Walt Edwards, who joined the Border Patrol in 1951, tells a similar story. He says: "When we caught illegal aliens on farms and ranches, the farmer or rancher would often call and complain [to officials in El Paso]. And depending on how politically connected they were, there would be political intervention. That is how we got into this mess we are in now."
Bill Chambers, who worked for a combined 33 years for the Border Patrol and the then-called US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), says politically powerful people are still fueling the flow of illegals.
During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower – if only for about 10 years.
In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.
Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.
One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.
Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.
By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.
By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.
Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.
Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south.
The sea voyage was "a rough trip, and they did not like it," says Don Coppock, who worked his way up from Border Patrolman in 1941 to eventually head the Border Patrol from 1960 to 1973.
Mr. Coppock says he "cannot understand why [President] Bush let [today's] problem get away from him as it has. I guess it was his compassionate conservatism, and trying to please [Mexican President] Vincente Fox."
There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally.
Border Patrol vets offer tips on curbing illegal immigration One day in 1954, Border Patrol agent Walt Edwards picked up a newspaper in Big Spring, Texas, and saw some startling news. The government was launching an all-out drive to oust illegal aliens from the United States.
The orders came straight from the top, where the new president, Dwight Eisenhower, had put a former West Point classmate, Gen. Joseph Swing, in charge of immigration enforcement.
General Swing's fast-moving campaign soon secured America's borders – an accomplishment no other president has since equaled. Illegal migration had dropped 95 percent by the late 1950s.
Several retired Border Patrol agents who took part in the 1950s effort, including Mr. Edwards, say much of what Swing did could be repeated today.
"Some say we cannot send 12 million illegals now in the United States back where they came from. Of course we can!" Edwards says.
Donald Coppock, who headed the Patrol from 1960 to 1973, says that if Swing and Ike were still running immigration enforcement, "they'd be on top of this in a minute."
William Chambers, another '50s veteran, agrees. "They could do a pretty good job" sealing the border.
Edwards says: "When we start enforcing the law, these various businesses are, on their own, going to replace their [illegal] workforce with a legal workforce."
While Congress debates building a fence on the border, these veterans say other actions should have higher priority.
1. End the current practice of taking captured Mexican aliens to the border and releasing them. Instead, deport them deep into Mexico, where return to the US would be more costly.
2. Crack down hard on employers who hire illegals. Without jobs, the aliens won't come.
3. End "catch and release" for non-Mexican aliens. It is common for illegal migrants not from Mexico to be set free after their arrest if they promise to appear later before a judge. Few show up.
The Patrol veterans say enforcement could also be aided by a legalized guest- worker program that permits Mexicans to register in their country for temporary jobs in the US. Eisenhower's team ran such a program. It permitted up to 400,000 Mexicans a year to enter the US for various agriculture jobs that lasted for 12 to 52 weeks.
• John Dillin is former managing editor of the Monitor.
But, try that today, and the DoJ, LULAC, every liberal on the planet, and the 9th Circuit would serve up more ink drenched lawsuits than all of China could produce in 100 years.
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Posts: 6923 From: Tucson, Arizona Registered: Jan 2002
When the even tougher that the AZ law passed in AL, where were the protesters like we had? Why wasn't the pres doing one of his ice cream jokes, and why is Hoilder so mum? Maybe they ran out of free bus passes, and free lunch money? Or is it just too close to the election, and he is just passing out a bunch of "middle of the road tokens".
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chriswf Member
Posts: 406 From: Plano, Texas Registered: Jan 2011
I never have cared about illegals... As my family was once composed of immigrants too (Scottish, Irish, and some Canadians 70+ years ago). I guess same goes for everyone who's not a native Indian.
It's not ALWAYS the employer, there's usually an American citizen outside of the company behind this as well. I know this, because my wife works with people who don't have citizenship. In order to get a lot of these jobs, they usually still have to have a form of ID. They get this ID - from a citizen. You can go to places and practically sell your ID. Then you turn around and collect taxes on everything they earned under your name too.
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I never have cared about illegals... As my family was once composed of immigrants too (Scottish, Irish, and some Canadians 70+ years ago). I guess same goes for everyone who's not a native Indian.
It's not ALWAYS the employer, there's usually an American citizen outside of the company behind this as well. I know this, because my wife works with people who don't have citizenship. In order to get a lot of these jobs, they usually still have to have a form of ID. They get this ID - from a citizen. You can go to places and practically sell your ID. Then you turn around and collect taxes on everything they earned under your name too.
They're here because of the companies. Most are around the food industry and other physically demanding jobs. Watch Food, Inc. It's all the 'demeaning' jobs that 'we' don't want.
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Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
They're here because of the companies. Most are around the food industry and other physically demanding jobs. Watch Food, Inc. It's all the 'demeaning' jobs that 'we' don't want.
Completely agree.
When we were in TN, Tyson chicken sent busses down to pick up illegal to work at their processing plant in Shelbyville. They would hire them and then work them overtime and never pay them for it. They were paying min wage to begin with, but they had to screw them even more so corporate profits were higher.
Same goes for Dacosta egg farms here in Maine. It is all about higher corporate profits period.
Steve
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When we were in TN, Tyson chicken sent busses down to pick up illegal to work at their processing plant in Shelbyville. They would hire them and then work them overtime and never pay them for it. They were paying min wage to begin with, but they had to screw them even more so corporate profits were higher.
Same goes for Dacosta egg farms here in Maine. It is all about higher corporate profits period.
Steve
The allure of counterfeit workers, all in the quest to benefit the shareholders and CEO bonuses...
Since the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, Congress has passed seven amnesties:
1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for over 2.7 million illegal aliens
2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens
3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994
4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America
5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti
6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens
7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens
The largest of these amnesties was the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) which amnestied about 3 million illegal aliens. This law was supposed to be a compromise -- an attempt to finally limit illegal immigration through strengthened border security and increased immigration enforcement against employers -- combined with amnesty for the millions of illegal workers in the United States. Illegal immigrants who had resided in the U.S. for five years and met other conditions received temporary legal status, which could be later upgraded to citizenship.
President Ronald Reagan approved this “path to citizenship” amnesty due to what was believed to be a relatively small illegal immigrant population. Unlike many current politicians and amnesty proponents, Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Unfortunately, there was widespread document fraud and the number of illegal aliens seeking amnesty far exceeded expectations. Most importantly, there was no political will to enforce the law against employers. The 1986 IRCA amnesty failed and actually led to millions of more people entering the United States illegally.
While President Bill Clinton made some efforts to combat illegal immigration during the 1990s, the problem remained. In 1996 the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 was passed. Still, leaders from Central American and Caribbean nations relied heavily on untaxed remittances sent back to their countries from the United States, and worried that Clinton would support mass deportations. While at least paying lip service to enforcement of laws, Clinton assured these leaders that there would be no mass deportations. There were about 7 million illegal aliens residing in the U.S. when he left office.
The eight years of President George W. Bush’s administration saw a marked increase in illegal immigration and a drop in immigration enforcement throughout much of his tenure. For example, the number of illegal aliens arrested in workplace cases fell from nearly 3,000 in 1999 to 445 in 2003, with the number of criminal cases against employers during this period falling from 182 to four. Not surprisingly, by 2005, there were an estimated 10-20 million illegal aliens living in the United States. Even at the end of 2007 after the Bush administration’s enforcement crackdown had been underway; only 92 criminal arrests of employers had taken place, in an economy that, according to the Washington Post, includes 6 million businesses that employ more than 7 million illegal foreign workers.
Despite the failure of past amnesties and the fact that these increase illegal immigration, Bush repeatedly pushed mass legalization (amnesty) schemes for illegal immigrants using the well-worn line that they “are doing jobs Americans will not” or “are not” doing. One scheme was the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act 2007 which was defeated by widespread popular opposition.
Today, over 1 million immigrants enter our country legally per year, while the illegal alien population grows by about 500,000 per year. Most of those who violate our borders and enter illegally come from Mexico and other Latin American countries. Only about 6 percent of the illegals come from Canada and Europe. Close to half of all illegal immigrants now residing in the U.S. did not enter illegally but rather overstayed their visas. Just as the federal government has historically failed to secure its borders, it has concurrently failed to closely monitor visa holders.
About 12-20 million illegal aliens currently reside in the United States. California has more illegals than any other state, at about 2.4 million. Others states with high illegal alien populations include Texas, Florida and New York, although many states are now impacted.
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Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
all depends on what the goal is. no one really wants to shut down any business, we just want to get the foriegn labor out. but - reality is - some of these places wont give up their *******. we've seen how desperately some owners will try and hold on to their *******. nothing better than desperate oppresable people to exploit. a capitalists wet dream. so, yes, this time - advance warnings. next time, maybe not.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
They're here because of the companies. Most are around the food industry and other physically demanding jobs. Watch Food, Inc. It's all the 'demeaning' jobs that 'we' don't want.
Have you checked out your local restaurants? Flipping burgers isn't a "physically demanding" job. I wouldn't be suprised if high schoolers can't find a job at a restaurant these days. What about in the housing industry? I never knew building a home was all that hard to do. Plenty of Americans where doing it in the 70s. Today, youi'd be hard press trying to find a white or black dude doing the work. IMHO it all comes down to those EVIL MERCHANTS.
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Posts: 11159 From: Benton County, OR Registered: Dec 2002
They're here because of the companies. Most are around the food industry and other physically demanding jobs. Watch Food, Inc. It's all the 'demeaning' jobs that 'we' don't want.
Yes, they are here to be exploited by U.S. companies. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce sued to stop the e-verify program.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that a secret deal (a wink or a nod) was made with Mexico to accept all the workers displaced by NAFTA. That treaty wiped out all the small farms in Mexico so the workers had to go somewhere or start yet another revolution.
I dunno Doug. I've seen lots of criminal activity in my life, and I never saw much of it permanantly desist just because the bad guys knew the cops would be around on a specific time or place. They'll cook the books or front a phoney set to the feds and go right back to doing what they were doing before.
Get RID of all the the illegals, and the employer will have to hire legal workers or go out of business. It really is that simple. Of course, that takes a political spine and it never has happened before so I guess it's too much to expect anyone to concentrate on throwing them out now.
One step further, when you get caught ( either malicious or not practicing due diligence ) your business is gone on the spot. And part of your personal property too, much as if you get caught selling drugs they take your car too.
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Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by User00013170: Of course one assumes here that the goal is to catch them or to send people back. I wonder.
never has been. the only people who DONT want the illegals are us, the public.
everyone else is making money or getting votes on them.
the problem could be solved ANYTIME. as mentioned above - nothing new here. but, like many other problems - gotta be $$$ incentive to make it so. to many people making to much $$$ "playing the game".
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chriswf Member
Posts: 406 From: Plano, Texas Registered: Jan 2011
Have you checked out your local restaurants? Flipping burgers isn't a "physically demanding" job. I wouldn't be suprised if high schoolers can't find a job at a restaurant these days. What about in the housing industry? I never knew building a home was all that hard to do. Plenty of Americans where doing it in the 70s. Today, youi'd be hard press trying to find a white or black dude doing the work. IMHO it all comes down to those EVIL MERCHANTS.
Who cares, I'd rather my kid work in Walgreens than Burger King. Or house cleaning as opposed to home building. Pay is the same, 1 is just far more cleaner than the other.
If there were a 100 uneducated "white dudes" applying for the job, you'd probably see them hired and paid just as little too. No slinging hammers and laying brick isn't a hard job. But it's a huge wear and tear on your body.
My dad (Don Foster) made millions (lives in New Orleans) cleaning up the city and surrounding areas. He's also Grey Star's lead contractor. He can't enjoy any of his money because he destroyed his body trying to work his way up through the system. - If he had to do it again, he wouldn't care for the construction job. He would urge school upon anyone as opposed to the experience it took him to get there.
I say let any non-citizen do the work. Not that I don't care for them, but they'll likely get paid less, which will make food and housing cheaper. Plus, the illegal person needs the job making food. A teenager usually has his parents to fall back onto - therefor probably won't care about your food as much (or the over all cleanliness rules of the company).
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Plus, the illegal person needs the job making food. A teenager usually has his parents to fall back onto - therefor probably won't care about your food as much (or the over all cleanliness rules of the company).
Actually, much of the money made by counterfeit workers isn't recycled back into the local economy. Instead, it's sent back home in the form of remittances, tens of billions of dollars every year. That's why countries like Mexico have open border policies going into America. For instance, every counterfeit worker who leaves Mexico is worth many thousands of dollars going back into the Mexican economy with none of the social infrastructure load of the worker. In this country their social load is picked up by the taxpayer and others.
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chriswf Member
Posts: 406 From: Plano, Texas Registered: Jan 2011
Actually, much of the money made by counterfeit workers isn't recycled back into the local economy. Instead, it's sent back home in the form of remittances, tens of billions of dollars every year. That's why countries like Mexico have open border policies going into America. For instance, every counterfeit worker who leaves Mexico is worth many thousands of dollars going back into the Mexican economy with none of the social infrastructure load of the worker. In this country their social load is picked up by the taxpayer and others.
I hate this argument. Especially when I see this: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...085875.html#lastpost Money being sent back to Mexico isn't our problem. Shake your finger at your own government for this garbage.
The amount of dollar bills we have isn't an issue anyway. The government runs on debt anyway. We run on debts. We buy our t.v.s and cars with money we're depending on getting later. PLUS, most of the cocaine in America is from Mexico and South America in general. When they ship the cocaine up here, money is shipped with it as well... Making the money covered in cocaine powders. Which is why I believe this is a fact: http://www.livescience.com/...y-laced-cocaine.html
But in China and Japan, only like 12% of money has cocaine. Why? Because South America isn't attached to them lol.
Money earned by counterfeit workers (who mostly don't pay any taxes on those earnings) and removed from this economy is definitely a problem. Maybe ten billion a year here, ten billion a year there, etc, isn't really a problem by your definition, but to the sectors of our economy that money's not being recycled into it's a real problem. That, and uncollected taxes not going to local and federal governments on those earnings. Noticed the problems in the economy lately? Twenty billion dollars a year buys a lot of goods and services...
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Posts: 11159 From: Benton County, OR Registered: Dec 2002
clip.......... . PLUS, most of the cocaine in America is from Mexico and South America in general. When they ship the cocaine up here, money is shipped with it as well... Making the money covered in cocaine powders. Which is why I believe this is a fact: http://www.livescience.com/...y-laced-cocaine.html
But in China and Japan, only like 12% of money has cocaine. Why? Because South America isn't attached to them lol.
Maybe it's because the Mexican cocaine money is being used to buy assault weapons in the U.S.
I say let any non-citizen do the work. Not that I don't care for them, but they'll likely get paid less, which will make food and housing cheaper. Plus, the illegal person needs the job making food. A teenager usually has his parents to fall back onto - therefor probably won't care about your food as much (or the over all cleanliness rules of the company).
Not on my watch. Nothing worst than a kid not learning a trade or going to college trying to make something better of themselves. As for non-citizens. Somewhere down the road everybody is affected. Our insurance rates and healthcare increase. What happens when the illegal runs into your Fiero and then runs back to Mexico while you're laid-up in the hospital? Can you file a lawsuit and go after them?
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Who cares, I'd rather my kid work in Walgreens than Burger King. Or house cleaning as opposed to home building. Pay is the same, 1 is just far more cleaner than the other.
*snip*
And that there is part of why we have this problem.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Did you notice how hush, hush the Obama administration has been about this made up 90% statistic? Your own story says that Holder was told to shut up about it.
This is the reason why they are not talking about it anymore:
Who cares, I'd rather my kid work in Walgreens than Burger King. Or house cleaning as opposed to home building.
I hope you can find one.
Poor economy leaves teens struggling to find summer jobs
Rose Taylor, 18, needs a summer job.
A music student at Bakersfield College, Taylor found recently that her part-time job at Denny's will not pay all her bills, which include food, gas, car payments and insurance, her cellphone, and piano lessons, which alone cost $150 per month.
The search for work has not been easy.
"I've applied to six or seven places so far," Taylor said. "None of them were hiring."
Among the biggest difficulties were the time and gas the search consumed.
"It's hard, having to drive all over town to look for a job," Taylor said.
Teens in Bakersfield have had an increasingly difficult time securing summer employment, in yet another sign that the Great Recession is not quite over.
Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics placed the California unemployment rate for teens ages 16 to 19 at 34.4 percent in 2010 This number includes only teens who have actively searched for work within four weeks of the data being collected.
In May, the U.S. Department of Labor put the national unemployment rate for workers ages 18 to 19 at 21.5 percent. Overall unemployment in Kern County remains about 17 percent.
Bakersfield parents are also feeling the pressure.
Taylor's mother, Lauri, has four children whose ages range from 18 to 21. While she considers herself lucky that all four have part-time jobs, Lauri said her children had real difficulty securing the hours they needed to meet their expenses.
"It does cause my husband and I more concern because we're always wondering if our kids are going to have enough, have what they need," Lauri said. "If one of them was to lose their job, it would have an immediate impact. It would be very difficult for them to find another."
Lauri said the fragility of her children's jobs makes it difficult to plan family vacations.
"All of our children are afraid to ask for time off because they don't want to lose their jobs," she said.
Michael Rodriguez, 19, has been looking for a job since summer began. He wants to move out of his parents' house and have money for expenses.
"It's been a tough search," Rodriguez said. "I know I started late, but there are so many people looking for work, and nobody seems to be hiring."
But it is clear that some companies, at least, are actively searching for teen labor.
"We're hiring, and we're not getting that kind of an applicant flow from that age group. Applications from 16- to 19-year-olds are few and far between," said Ronald Johns, who owns seven McDonald's franchises around Bakersfield. During a recent "hiring day," Johns said, he saw 300 to 400 people lined up for the possibility of employment.
"The number of 16- to-19-year-olds (at the hiring event) was very few," Johns said. "It was mostly people that were later in college or older, or housewives looking for second jobs, or sometimes people just looking for any job."
Elise Franco, assistant manager for Abercrombie & Fitch in Bakersfield, said this summer she, too, has seen an unusual trend of older people seeking employment.
"I see a lot of older people going door-to-door at the mall and applying everywhere. Maybe not coming to Abercrombie because they like the brand, but because they need a job," Franco said. "A lot of them come with full resumes; they have much more experience when it comes to looking for a job."
Sonia Portillo-Burns, manager of Jamba Juice, said she had seen more teens than usual this summer applying for positions.
Competing with their elders has given some teens a sense of hopelessness. Based on what he had been reading about the economy, Rodriguez said he often just assumes older, more well-qualified people have already applied to the jobs he sees.
Wages can also be an issue. Rodriguez and Taylor both said they could not afford to work for minimum wage.
"I would not work for McDonald's," Taylor said. "The job has no tips and is minimum wage. I can't really live on that."
Rodriguez, too, said he would not accept minimum wage, saying he needed at least $10 per hour.
"Gas is expensive," Rodriguez said. "I have a good education; I'm hard-working and reliable. I don't think I should have to work for minimum wage."
Heavy competition, few qualifications, and the necessity of a more-than-minimum-wage paycheck are all contributors to youth unemployment in Kern County.
But as James McSweeny, 23, who has applied to 15 places to no avail, put it: "Younger people have a different drive. It isn't about survival yet. Nobody our age is really that desperate."
Did you notice how hush, hush the Obama administration has been about this made up 90% statistic? Your own story says that Holder was told to shut up about it.
This is the reason why they are not talking about it anymore: