W-e-e-e-l-l-l-l, the way I sees it, Weiner's got a (D) and Ensign's got an (R), and as we all know on this conservative forum, a bad (R) is still better than a good (D), or any (D) for that matter.
So when I see five pages of ongoing drama over a corrupt politician with a (R) to go along with all the ranting over one with the (D) then I'll start to think this forum is "fair and balanced", but so far the only chum I see is from conservative sharks going into a feeding frenzy at the slightest scent of (D) blood in the water...
100% If I may add, if you disagree with the so-called political ® false gods here-they will resort to mockings and name calling. The O/T side of this forum is down right despicable.
100% If I may add, if you disagree with the so-called political ® false gods here-they will resort to mockings and name calling. The O/T side of this forum is down right despicable.
Not that implying someone is an alcoholic is much better, but it wouldn't be half as entertaining if the insults weren't in here. More informative maybe, but nothing to break the popcorn out for.
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I'm sorry, I'm not a self-appointed caller-outer of corrupt politicians. That's a role you yourself have admitted you've taken on, with pride. Now, the fact that you and the other conservatives call out republicans with as little fanfare as possible, with back-page minimal posts, and only years after the fact but call out democrats with hundreds and hundreds of posts dedicated to just one politician, page after page after page, on and on and on strikes me as, well, for lack of a better word, curious.
Don't ya think?
Emperor's new clothes, and all that, ya know...
Did you go on NOW's site to see if they stuck up for the lady, and not throw her under the bus because he is a lib like their organization? How about CARE's site. These are the folks who are paid to keep things honest, not us!
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cliffw Member
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Originally posted by madcurl: ... if you disagree with the so-called political ® false liberal elected gods here-they will resort to mockings and name calling. The O/T side of this forum It is down right despicable.
Fixed that for you.
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Originally posted by cliffw: The republicans want to save Medicare and offer a plan. The Dumbs come out with a video showing the plan's originator look-a-like, pushing granny over the cliff. Remember the ObamaCare fiasco ? The dumbs, heh, they said we have to pass the bill to see what's in it. They also said the republican plan was to die early but drink Bacardi.
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Originally posted by 1988holleyformula: Not that implying someone is an alcoholic is much better, ...
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Originally posted by JazzMan: No, he's channeling Bacardi...
..THIS CREEPAZOID DESERVES ALL THE BAD HE CAN GET D OR R.he is a buffoon THE REPUBLICANS NORMALLY RESIGN,REMEMBER THE REPUBLICAN WHO HAD HIS SHIRT OFF,,GONE IN ONE DAY ,,THO THE FOOT TAPPER HUNG ON THERE ARE 10 DEMOCRAT PERVERTS,LIARS AND THIEFS TO EVERY REPUBLICAN & THE WINNER,s,DEMOCRATS, RAPIST BILL CLINTON,,& MURDERER TED KENNEDY,who should have both rotted in prison,,money & power have its privalege
most democrat scandles do not get the coverage this one does,,democrat Charley Rangel should be in Prison,he was censured Charley Rangle was an arrogant crook ,there has to be a lot under the rug ,but he walked . a Republican screw up is far worse than a democrat,,because 75% of democrats have lower morals & you can not expect them to be honest when the honey Jar is open ..
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cliffw Member
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Bump back to page one. Has that ever happened to you ?
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE: A little perspective would seem to be in order here: 1) The alleged recipient of the (alleged) Weiner photo is an adult, at least 21 years of age.
Perspective ? From a liar ? Why did the FBI go interview another victim in New Jersey who is only 17 years old ?
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Seek treament? I didn't know they now have a program for those post nasty pictures on facebook? Why not call it what it is: Sleazeballl Rehab.
Anthony Weiner says he will take leave of absence, seek ‘treatment’ as scandal grows.
Just hours after three leading Democrats called on him to resign, Rep. Anthony Weiner announced he will take a leave of absence from Congress and enter a treatment program.
THERE ARE 10 DEMOCRAT PERVERTS,LIARS AND THIEFS TO EVERY REPUBLICAN
Republicans are more moral then Democrats? Please.
Political party probibly has very little to do with who is more likely to lie, cheat, steal, or want to have sex with many many women. If I remember right, you're republican and you used to be a pimp!
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htexans1 Member
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Republicans are more moral then Democrats? Please.
Political party probibly has very little to do with who is more likely to lie, cheat, steal, or want to have sex with many many women. If I remember right, you're republican and you used to be a pimp!
Yes, but the great Uhlanstan is not running for, nor has he ever held a congressional or senate seat.
Uhlanstans morals (or his career goals) are not being scrutinized here. LOL.
Observations on my part are purely opinion and are NOT based in any fact that I can see. LOL
But yes, I can agree with Boonie, that in some cases the D and Rs can be bad, Very Very Bad Bad. LOL!!
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Seek treament? I didn't know they now have a program for those post nasty pictures on facebook? Why not call it what it is: Sleazeballl Rehab.
Anthony Weiner says he will take leave of absence, seek ‘treatment’ as scandal grows.
Just hours after three leading Democrats called on him to resign, Rep. Anthony Weiner announced he will take a leave of absence from Congress and enter a treatment program.
New allegations in the "Weinergate scandal..." An underage girl also has been a part of the problems with Rep. Wiener (D) NY.
(FOX)
U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner, who has been under fire after admitting to sending graphic photos to women online, has acknowledged he had online contact with a 17-year-old girl but said the communications were "neither explicit nor indecent." New Castle County, N.Y., police officers went to a high school junior's home yesterday afternoon to speak with the girl's mother about the teen's contact with the New York Democrat. A FoxNews.com reporter was at the home when police arrived. The girl, whose name is being withheld because she is a minor, told FoxNews.com, "I'm doing OK." The police left the home after about 30 minutes, followed by the daughter and mother, who left in a separate car. It was not clear if the mother and daughter were going to continue the conversation with police at another location. A Weiner spokeswoman issued a one-sentence statement last night that said, "According to Congressman Weiner, his communications with this person were neither explicit nor indecent." Weiner, a seven-term Democrat, has admitted sending sexually explicit messages over the Internet to a half-dozen women over the past three years. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has asked for an ethics investigation. Rep. Weiner planned to check himself into a treatment center today after House Democratic leaders, including Nancy Pelosi, called on him to resign and suggested he needed psychiatric counseling. A spokeswoman for Weiner said he would request a leave of absence from the House and seek treatment, but provided no further details.
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One of his aides says he is now considering resigning. Wonder what is changing his mind. Maybe the conversations with the minor has this bad boy by the privates and he is saying uncle.
Apparently Mondays are the favorite day to do this, five days before Face The Nation come on again.
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In Modern Times, Congress is Reluctant to Punish its Own
Types of Punishment There are several major types of punishment members of Congress can face:
Expulsion: The most serious of penalties is provided for in Article I, Section 5 of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member." Such moves are considered matters of self-protection of the integrity of the institution.
Censure: A less severe form of discipline, censure does not remove congressmen or senators from office. Instead, it is a formal statement of disapproval that can have a powerful psychological effect on a member and his relationships. The House, for example, requires members being censured to stand at the "well" of the chamber to receive a verbal rebuke and reading of the censure resolution by the Speaker.
Reprimand: Used by the House, a reprimand is considered a lesser level of disapproval of the conduct of a member than that of a "censure," and is thus a less severe rebuke by the institution. A resolution of reprimand, unlike a censure, is adopted by a vote of the House with the member "standing in his place," according to House rules.
Suspension: Suspensions involve a prohibition on a member of the House from voting on or working on legislative or representational matters for a particular time. But according to congressional records, the House has in recent years questioned its authority to disqualify or mandatorily suspend a member. History of House Expulsions Only five members have been expelled in the history of the House, and the most recent was U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. of Ohio in July of 2002.
History of House Expulsions Only five members have been expelled in the history of the House, and the most recent was U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. of Ohio in July of 2002.
Just my opinion but, I'm thinking they are way overdue. Too much of I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine. The integrity of the two houses of Congress and their sour image in the minds of the voting public show we already have little to any trust or respect for them. They need to police themselves in a bad way.
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I'm wondering "what" does it take to give a person the "boot."
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch Section 6 - Compensation
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.) (The preceding words in parentheses were modified by the 27th Amendment.) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.
President Obama on Anthony Weiner Scandal: 'I Would Resign'
June 13, 2011 President Obama today joined a chorus of top Democrats condeming the behavior of Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., saying, "If it was me, I would resign."
The remark, made during an interview with NBC, is the strongest comment yet from the White House since the start of the scandal that has engulfed the New York congressman.
"When you get to the point where, because of various personal distractions, you can't serve as effectively as you need to, at the time when people are worrying about jobs and their mortgages and paying the bills -- then you should probably step back,'' Obama said.
Earlier Monday, White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One that Obama viewed the Weiner affair as a "distraction" but stopped short of calling on Weiner to resign.
"The behavior was inappropriate. The dishonesty was inappropriate," Carney said of Weiner's admission of risque online chats and message swaps with multiple women after first denying them.
"We think it's a distraction from the important business that this president needs to conduct and Congress need to conduct," he said.
Weiner said this weekend that he was taking a "short leave of absence to seek professional treatment to focus on becoming a better husband and healthier person." He was not expected in Washington today as the House of Representatives resumes business after a recess.
But Weiner's announcement did little to tamper new revelations about his behavior, or the mounting pressure from his peers to step down.
The website TMZ posted photographs Sunday that Weiner apparently shot of himself in the members-only House gym, adding further personal embarrassment and a reminder that at least some of his controversial behavior took place on Capitol Hill.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of also ratcheted up pressure on Weiner, insisting a temporary leave of absence is not enough.
"I think Anthony Weiner needs to resign so he can focus on his family," Schultz of Florida said Sunday.
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said, "I don't see how he can proceed and effectively represent his constituents."
While the Democratic leadership can't force Weiner to resign, it can make life nearly impossible for him if he decides to stay, stripping him of his committee assignments and turning him effectively into a congressman with little power or influence.
Still, Weiner has publicly vowed to keep his job.
"I've made some mistakes and I've acknowledged that. I'm trying to make it up to my wife and family," he told reporters Saturday in his Queens office, "and making clear to my constituents I want to get back to work for them. Not the easiest environment, but I want to do best for them."
Some of New York's most powerful Democrats say it's up to his constituents to decide whether he deserves to stay in office and receive another term.
"Whether or not he should resign, that's up to him, his constituents and the Democratic leadership," Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.
A poll by New York 1 and Marist College last week found 56 percent of registered voters in New York's 9th congressional district believe Weiner should stay. Thirty-three percent said Weiner should immediately resign, while 12 percent were undecided, according to the poll.
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A poll by New York 1 and Marist College last week found 56 percent of registered voters in New York's 9th congressional district believe Weiner should stay. Thirty-three percent said Weiner should immediately resign, while 12 percent were undecided, according to the poll.
How is he going to be reelected if nobody wants to shake his hand, let alone hold their baby.
A poll by New York 1 and Marist College last week found 56 percent of registered voters in New York's 9th congressional district believe Weiner should stay. Thirty-three percent said Weiner should immediately resign, while 12 percent were undecided, according to the poll.
I'm sorry, but the votors in his district don't have the right to decide if he should resign or not. Their electing him doesn't give them the right to have any say in his future as their elected representative.
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Originally posted by JazzMan: I'm sorry, but the votors in his district don't have the right to decide if he should resign or not. Their electing him doesn't give them the right to have any say in his future as their elected representative.
That's bullzhit. Who took away their right to an opinion ?
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I'm sorry, but the votors in his district don't have the right to decide if he should resign or not. Their electing him doesn't give them the right to have any say in his future as their elected representative.
I'm hoping Weiner decides to work for Oscar Mayer wiener. Weiner would make an excellent spokes person. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taunting around in the wienermoble.
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partfiero Member
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I'm hoping Weiner decides to work for Oscar Mayer wiener. Weiner would make an excellent spokes person. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taunting around in the wienermoble.
Since DC resembles a sausage factory, don't really see it would be a change for him.
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(IF), he used his political position to try to persuade her (Ginger Lee) to lie--it will be big trouble for him ethics wise in congress. (btw--she's kinda ugly IMO)
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Anthony Weiner to Resign, Reports New York Times - New York News
According to a breaking news alert from the New York Times, disgraced Rep. Anthony Weiner is set to resign. Screen shot 2011-06-16 at 9.37.22 AM.png
The Times reports that Weiner "came to the conclusion that he could no longer serve after having long discussions with his wife, Huma Abedin," who had returned on Tuesday night after traveling on a global diplomacy mission with Hillary Clinton. (Abedin is reportedly pregnant.)
Nancy Pelosi and President Obama, among others, had both urged Weiner to step down, with Pelosi telling reporters she would "strip Mr. Weiner of his committee assignments if he did not leave."
House ethics committee investigations over Weiner's conduct are likely to end with his decision to resign, since he would no longer be a member of Congress.
This Weiner support group will be disappointed.
Weiner Tells Friends He Will Resign [NYT]
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cliffw Member
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Originally posted by JazzMan: I'm sorry, but the votors in his district don't have the right to decide if he should resign or not. Their electing him doesn't give them the right to have any say in his future as their elected representative.
So ... you would have us believe that Weiner's decision to resign was solely his own. Uh huh, .
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cliffw Member
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If anyone things constituents' actions, protests, and poll results can't affect or force a politician's decisions re political resignation, they might ask themselves where Hosni Mubarak and Aristide are today. Many may not like the idea that a duly elected official might be forced out of office by civil unrest or peaceful calls for resignation, but it's a fact of political life here and around the world. I never much liked tricky Dick Nixon anyway, but public outrage had as much to do with his resignation as the threat of impeachment did. Even the founding fathers acknowledged that the day may come when it becomes neccessary to abolish all or part of our lawful government and it's related offices.
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partfiero Member
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Many politicians have been calling for him to quit, but he didn't listen. The wife gets home, less than 24 later he quits. Is the power of the puss at play here? Would love to have been the fly on the wall last night.
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madcurl Member
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I saw the film footage of Weiner's wife driving home in the little blue car while a barrage of reporters taking photographs and I'm surprised she didn't run the paparazzi over. It might be "red eye" but it looked like Mrs. Weiner was seeing "red." How embarrassing it must've been to hear your spouse is taunting his junk to other women while you're caring his child and to have the news media waiting for you after a long plane trip. I'm sure Hilary Clinton consoled her.
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If anyone things constituents' actions, protests, and poll results can't affect or force a politician's decisions re political resignation, they might ask themselves where Hosni Mubarak and Aristide are today. Many may not like the idea that a duly elected official might be forced out of office by civil unrest or peaceful calls for resignation, but it's a fact of political life here and around the world. I never much liked tricky Dick Nixon anyway, but public outrage had as much to do with his resignation as the threat of impeachment did. Even the founding fathers acknowledged that the day may come when it becomes neccessary to abolish all or part of our lawful government and it's related offices.
Hey don't bring those stuffy "founding fathers" into a discussion about how our government was formed or should be run. Times have changed. And all that. /sarcasm
100% If I may add, if you disagree with the so-called political ® false gods here-they will resort to mockings and name calling. The O/T side of this forum is down right despicable.
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How embarrassing it must've been to hear your spouse is taunting his junk to other women while you're caring his child and to have the news media waiting for you after a long plane trip. I'm sure Hilary Clinton consoled her.
