quote Originally posted by newf: I'm not arguing anything about what he did or didn't do. The point was Bear was attempting to point out how the "dems" on here haven't been commenting on this story when a simple search shows he is accusing others of being exactly the word he loves to throw out lately.

More to my point is that there was no rush to post it like they do when a Republican gets in trouble...ANY trouble. They seem to have a double-standard.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Infidelity is indeed a bad thing. But no, it is NOT the same as sending x-rated pictures of yourself to women on Facebook (or whatever). If you think so, oh well, I guess things in Canada are more different than I thought.

Keep spinning.

quote Originally posted by newf: I'm not arguing anything about what he did or didn't do. The point was Bear was attempting to point out how the "dems" on here haven't been commenting on this story when a simple search shows he is accusing others of being exactly the word he loves to throw out lately. And as I said these stories IMO are very similar but maybe the lee one was missed by some.

Perhaps. It's just that there are some on the forum whose double mindedness is very blatant.

quote Originally posted by newf: Keep spinning.

LOL.

Mr. Pot, keep calling that kettle black.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: More to my point is that there was no rush to post it like they do when a Republican gets in trouble...ANY trouble. They seem to have a double-standard.

More to my point is there are two almost identical stories (IMO) and one in which you are conspicuously absent from. But no double standard or hypocricy there, right?

quote Originally posted by newf: Why not compare this thread to the interest garnered in a very similar thread about a closely related scandal? https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/082558.html

From that thread;

quote Originally posted by partfiero: So from the time a person becomes a politician, how many minutes pass before they lose touch with reality?

The guy manned up and resigned about 15 minutes after it was exposed, didn't try to Weiner out by lying and trying to destroy the messenger.
What really bugs me the most as this plays out is the toll it will take on his wife.
Wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't receive threats from the radical Muslims to either divorce this Infidel or else.
In this day and age if a non Muslim decides to marry a Muslim girl, you should take on the responsibility not to drag her through the mud in front of the whole world.
Heard today she is pretty upset.

quote Originally posted by newf: More to my point is there are two almost identical stories (IMO) and one in which you are conspicuously absent from. But no double standard or hypocricy there, right?

If I could answer this... the title of the thread says:

"New York Rep. Chris Lee Resigns Over Craigslist Dating Ad and Sexy Photo"


The word "resigns" being the key word.

There's also this quote here:

"Gawker.com broke the story about the lying lawmaker under the headline "Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe."

Within hours, he had quit his $174,000-a-year job and issued this statement:"


The difference is that Lee quit immediately... Weiner lied constantly, and then was busted, then finally admitted it, then appears to be lying again now... and refuses to resign even though people are asking him to. They're both equally as bad, but one resigned immediately... what's there to say about it when the guy resigns immediately afterwards?

quote Originally posted by texasfiero: and that is a foolish stand to take. His, or ANY similar act by another, is a window to the soul. His lack of respect for his family, his office, his country, is enough to disqualify him. He is clearly a self-centered narcissist. How can he serve with integrity? Until we begin judging our elected officials by the lives they live we will never have good government. The problem is, so many of us live the same kind of lives, by the same low moral standard, that we keep electing the likes of Weiner. I'm not concerned with the photogenic aspects of his junk either, but I don't want ANY ONE of such low character have rule over me. While he is outside my voting region, he still has sway over the laws I must live under. He is a strong supporter of ObamaCare. He is one of the liberal voices who have brought us into the malaise we now suffer. He needs to go. Unfortunately, the people of his district will likely re-elect him because they are not looking at the "REAL issues".

I think you mistake not giving a particular event a lot of attention with not noticing the event. I notice....I notice them all. But I'm not going to spend a bunch of time bashing the guy over it. Sure, everything you said was true. But, just like I said earlier, it also describes a majority of the clowns in Washington. Bashing the guy over it doesn't do anything but take your attention off other things, I seriously doubt he cares what you or I or anyone else thinks, so why bother? (except to make yourself feel better) The only people who can actually do anything are the people in his district, and it's up to them to vote him out if he won't step down. (Which you say you don't think they'll do).

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: If I could answer this... the title of the thread says: "New York Rep. Chris Lee Resigns Over Craigslist Dating Ad and Sexy Photo" The word "resigns" being the key word. There's also this quote here: "Gawker.com broke the story about the lying lawmaker under the headline "Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe." Within hours, he had quit his $174,000-a-year job and issued this statement:" The difference is that Lee quit immediately... Weiner lied constantly, and then was busted, then finally admitted it, then appears to be lying again now... and refuses to resign even though people are asking him to. They're both equally as bad, but one resigned immediately... what's there to say about it when the guy resigns immediately afterwards?

yup. to me it does seem the key aspects are NOT the undie pic - but the actions afterwards

I find little but a giggle with the pics - its the BS afterwards that ruined the Weiner

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: yup. to me it does seem the key aspects are NOT the undie pic - but the actions afterwards I find little but a giggle with the pics - its the BS afterwards that ruined the Weiner

Now there is a pron star that he asked to lie for him, and even offered his "What do I say now" team to help her out with those lies.
This will go away once he resigns, just ask Edwards!

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quote Originally posted by partfiero: Now there is a pron star that he asked to lie for him, and even offered his "What do I say now" team to help her out with those lies. This will go away once he resigns, just ask Edwards!

Edwards has done quite a bit more, and I'd have to say, considerably more aggregious. Cheating on his wife while she was laying in a hospital bed with Cancer.

Mark Sanford met his end pretty quickly... and after it was all sorted out and he paid back the taxpayer money that was spent, the media dropped him.

http://innthebasement.com/i...-for-argentina-trip/

quote Originally posted by cliffw: Forget about the picture. What about the bald face lying ? He should resign and never serve again.

I agree with you.
Why does the left want to just reduce this to just a sex thing done in private? The man got on national television and not only lied his a&& off but he even tried to implicate innocent people to take the blame for him. He only fessed up when the story wouldn't wash and the facts started to come out. Anyone with a brain could tell he was lying. Frankly I'm surprised he didn't get a spin machine going after consulting with an attorney before he made up his BS excuse. He was probably not thinking clearly in the early morning hours after staying up late doing his work for the American people.

I could care less what this sicko does in his private life but I don't expect him to lie to the whole world from his congressional office about it. He should resign.

As far as an ethics investigation, he only lied to the American people so there was no harm done. Politicians are supposed to lie. They all do it. How else are they expected to stay in office? Had he told the truth right away that would have been in violation of his party's ethics? All the women he texted were of age. It's not like he was sending pictures of his erection to the boy scouts, but that would probably be excusable too.

Pelosi and Reid seem to be casting him off. If that's not just a smoke screen, and they don't get out the big spin machine to cover for him I would bet that if this doesn't go away soon and more truth comes out, we will discover this was just the tip of the iceberg on this guy. We might find out what a real scumbag he is.

I doubt his oath of office included sending pictures of little tony to strange women.

I don't think anyone would deny that he has disgraced himself and his office.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Edwards has done quite a bit more, and I'd have to say, considerably more aggregious. Cheating on his wife while she was laying in a hospital bed with Cancer. Mark Sanford met his end pretty quickly... and after it was all sorted out and he paid back the taxpayer money that was spent, the media dropped him. http://innthebasement.com/i...-for-argentina-trip/

My comparison was more about the lying and deception creating a situation where others won't let it go away.
As far as which one was worse, on the surface I agree with you.
But I will not second guess who's heart suffered more when it got ripped out, everyone hurts differently.

Edit for the other slime ball you mentioned.
When these things happen it makes no difference who's party you are attending, they are all cheaters, heart breakers and should man up and resign.
But of course they are only children at heart.

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quote Originally posted by Puglet01: I don't think anyone would deny that he has disgraced himself and his office.

Yet, those that will excuse him, deny that he also disgraced Congress, the Democratic party, the United States, and even those that will excuse him, .

quote Originally posted by Formula88: You apparently haven't been around when a Republican is allegedly caught in a sex scandal. It's like chumming the waters.

Not really. There was a senator a few months back who resigned, http://rt.com/usa/news/john-ensign-resign-senator/ I searched the entire active forums for his name, got five hits. In this 2009 thread he was only briefly mentioned, nothing further, and definitely none of the drama and outrage as shown in this thread, which is now frakking five pages long.

In this 2010 thread his name was mentioned in an anti-illegal immigrant vote issue, no mention of his sexual scandals.

In this 2010 thread about the TSA, his name was briefly mentioned tangentally to one person's comments.

But wait, back in April, fierobear posted within another thread a brief one line, 9-word sentence mentioning Ensign's resignation. No 5 pages and 150+ posts of diatribe and railing, and no mention whatsoever before the resignation about Ensign's activities, which had been public and known for years.

And finally, in this 2010 thread about lawmaker's pay his name was on a list of names of senators.

His name has been coming up in the news with regard to his affair(s) since at least October 2009, yet on this forum, nothing.

But wait, way back in June of 2009 Neptune mentioned Ensign's affair and scandal..

Crickets...

And here we have five pages of drama.

What's the difference?

W-e-e-e-l-l-l-l, the way I sees it, Weiner's got a (D) and Ensign's got an (R), and as we all know on this conservative forum, a bad (R) is still better than a good (D), or any (D) for that matter.

So when I see five pages of ongoing drama over a corrupt politician with a (R) to go along with all the ranting over one with the (D) then I'll start to think this forum is "fair and balanced", but so far the only chum I see is from conservative sharks going into a feeding frenzy at the slightest scent of (D) blood in the water...

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: So when I see five pages of ongoing drama over a corrupt politician with a (R) to go along with all the ranting over one with the (D) then I'll start to think this forum is "fair and balanced", but so far the only chum I see is from conservative sharks going into a feeding frenzy at the slightest scent of (D) blood in the water...

I'm curious.
Do you think that this forum is somehow *obligated* to be "fair and balanced" ?
If so, why?

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: Ensign took two years to resign, and he had a full-blown extramarital affair, not just sent some pictures to someone. Not one bleat from you on that two year delay, not one. In fact, his resignation barely made a ripple on the waters here being briefly mentioned by fierobear in passing in another thread not about Ensign. Just sayin...

Not commenting is in no way condoning.
Just posted my view of anyone who does this, never had another view.
Sometimes I won't post either because I have nothing to add or someone has already expressed my view.
I have never counted where and when you comment, but I will try to be more consistent since you apparently are.
When you were checking me out, were you checking yourself as well.
Just saying.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: If I could answer this... the title of the thread says: "New York Rep. Chris Lee Resigns Over Craigslist Dating Ad and Sexy Photo" The word "resigns" being the key word. There's also this quote here: "Gawker.com broke the story about the lying lawmaker under the headline "Married GOP Congressman Sent Sexy Pictures to Craigslist Babe." Within hours, he had quit his $174,000-a-year job and issued this statement:" The difference is that Lee quit immediately... Weiner lied constantly, and then was busted, then finally admitted it, then appears to be lying again now... and refuses to resign even though people are asking him to. They're both equally as bad, but one resigned immediately... what's there to say about it when the guy resigns immediately afterwards?

I actually agree with your point about one resigning and the other not but my statement was in response to this "there was no rush to post it like they do when a Republican gets in trouble...ANY trouble. They seem to have a double-standard." I just think the double-standard goes for some on either side.

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: But wait, back in April, fierobear posted within another thread a brief one line, 9-word sentence mentioning Ensign's resignation. No 5 pages and 150+ posts of diatribe and railing, and no mention whatsoever before the resignation about Ensign's activities, which had been public and known for years.

That's an interesting choice you made for threads to quote me on. It happens to be a thread that I CREATED to specifically call out Repulicans!

I created that thread because I am sincere in demanding that:

1. The Republicans do as we elected them to do, and

2. If they don't, we're going to call them out on it. No more passes because they have an "R" after their name.

quote So when I see five pages of ongoing drama over a corrupt politician with a (R) to go along with all the ranting over one with the (D) then I'll start to think this forum is "fair and balanced", but so far the only chum I see is from conservative sharks going into a feeding frenzy at the slightest scent of (D) blood in the water...

Tell you what, genius, when we can see YOU calling out Democrats anywhere near as much as Republicans, then you can criticize us. Until then, you are a HYPOCRITE and you don't have the credibility to call us out.

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quote Originally posted by newf: I actually agree with your point about one resigning and the other not but my statement was in response to this "there was no rush to post it like they do when a Republican gets in trouble...ANY trouble. They seem to have a double-standard." I just think the double-standard goes for some on either side.

The picture may be clearer to everyone if you pour through all of these types of topics and post what % of the time;
The left posts about someone on the right and visa versa
The right posts about someone on left and visa versa.
With stats you may prove your point, with out them the point may be mute.

quote Originally posted by newf: I just think the double-standard goes for some on either side.

What a non statement, ? Think, ... some ?
Of course it does. Did you see the thread about a guy defending the 250cc motorcycle being good enough. Well, whatever. Did you see the thread about the V-8 being better than the 3800SC engine ? Whatever. Were you talking politics, or human nature ? Are you advocating, that either right or wrong, that one can not ask that others be held accountable ?
For the record, every discretion the dumbs on this board bring up about the retards, the retards are the ones which own up and step down. Another thing, use the PFF search function on the retard discretions, and you will see the resident retards call for resignation. The dumbs, heh, they are to dumb to convict and expel their own bad apples.

The Dems are now callin for Wiener to step down...

Meanwhile the Wife is 3 months pregnant

quote Originally posted by cliffw: What a non statement, ? Think, ... some ? Of course it does. Did you see the thread about a guy defending the 250cc motorcycle being good enough. Well, whatever. Did you see the thread about the V-8 being better than the 3800SC engine ? Whatever. Were you talking politics, or human nature ? Are you advocating, that either right or wrong, that one can not ask that others be held accountable ? For the record, every discretion the dumbs on this board bring up about the retards, the retards are the ones which own up and step down. Another thing, use the PFF search function on the retard discretions, and you will see the resident retards call for resignation. The dumbs, heh, they are to dumb to convict and expel their own bad apples.

are you channeling Uhlanstan?

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Now his supposedly penis pic got leaked all over the net.
Talk about a sticky situation.

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quote Originally posted by partfiero: Now his supposedly penis pic got leaked all over the net. Talk about a sticky situation.

hahha Yuuuuck

quote Originally posted by partfiero: Now his supposedly penis pic got leaked all over the net. Talk about a sticky situation.

Released by "Opie and Anthony" no less. I figured they'd show up with an issue titled "Wiener" and get on the beating a horse bandwagon...

Brietbart showed up on the set of the O.A. show and had the "pic of Wiener's wiener" on his phone... a pic was taken and it was off to the Kentucky Derby.
(making a name for yourself on the backs of others.)

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quote Originally posted by partfiero: Now his supposedly penis pic got leaked all over the net. Talk about a sticky situation.

Wiener²gate

quote Originally posted by randye: I'm curious. Do you think that this forum is somehow *obligated* to be "fair and balanced" ? If so, why?

Oh, not at all. This is a conservative forum. The conservatives here claim that it's not, but it is, completely and totally. What I'd like to see is acknowledgment of that fact, but for some reason even the conservatives here won't cop to the fact that it's a conservative forum. Almost like they're ashamed, or something. Too funny.

This forum is what it is, a reflection of it's community and of it's one and only moderator. Nothing more, nothing less.

quote Originally posted by htexans1: The Dems are now callin for Wiener to step down... Meanwhile the Wife is 3 months pregnant

I dont want him to step down. Any true conservative will not want him to step down and of course dems will. I want him to keep his job. Let him be the poster boy of the democratic party. Why do they keep electing these morons.

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: This forum is what it is, a reflection of it's community and of it's one and only moderator. Nothing more, nothing less.

Not so. It seems to be a mirror of American society. Liberal talk radio is basically non existent and non self supportive, the same with liberal television commentary.

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: but [SIZE=3]call out democrats with hundreds and hundreds of posts dedicated to just one politician, page after page after page, on and on and on

Hundreds and hundreds of posts about Wiener? This thread is 5 pages long. I'd say less than 20% of the posts are specifically about Rep Wiener (but I'll bet you'll count them. I'll leave that obsessive/compulsive task to you). The discussion has wandered all over the place, as threads often do. Pages 2 and 3 were mostly a discussion about morality. Page 4 talked a lot about Sarah Palin and some Republicans. Your assessment of the content of this thread is SO wrong, it is astonishing. But isn't that just like a typical liberal, lie, cheat, steal, say ANYTHING, not matter how absurd, if you think it will help you win.

quote Emperor's new clothes, and all that, ya know...

Well, people DO seem to be waking up to Obama, you know, the guy YOU elected for "hope" and "change"? It's like the fable about the naked emperor was written about him.

NSFW X-Rated

Anothony Wiener's Junk Shot

quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: NSFW X-Rated Anothony Wiener's Junk Shot

...(I didnt know it was that.... small.) LOL!!

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quote Originally posted by newf: are you channeling Uhlanstan?

Umm, no. I can't even understand why you would think that, . My statement had merit. Uhlanistan, heh, his thoughts have merit. That must be it. You, (to me) seem to always bring a partisan rationale analysis to these discussions. I am good with that. However, partisanship extends beyond politics. Which is all I said.

quote Originally posted by newf: I think the recent threads have shown it happens on both sides.

Of course it does, . But(t), look at the motivation behind it. Look at the response (by the aggrieved party) to it. Myself, with honesty, I tend to lean more republican, just because of the B-Zhit tactics that the dumbs use to, uuhh, promote their cause or defend their stance. A prime example :

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: No, he's channeling Bacardi...

The republicans want to save Medicare and offer a plan. The Dumbs come out with a video showing the plan's originator look-a-like, pushing granny over the cliff. Remember the ObamaCare fiasco ? The dumbs, heh, they said we have to pass the bill to see what's in it. They also said the republican plan was to die early but drink Bacardi. The repubs can and are just as bad as the dumbs but, when caught, they step down, AS EXPECTED. You will see, if you look, that every conservative never argues anything else. Heh, the Dumb leadership, is calling for Weiners resignation, but no dumbs here are, . Point, set, match.
Can you believe this weiner Wiener. He is gonna do anything he can to keep power. If he will blatantly lie to the entire nation, the world, offer public relation help to some that could damage him, he would accept blackmail.
What remains to be seen, since he embarrassed New York, is if his constituents will also embarrass themselves again. After all Charlie Rangel got re-elected. After cheating on his taxes, even being the head of the Ways and Means committee which regulates the IRS, .