This is so good I almost want to call in sick to work.
It's like when they run a Beverly Hillbillys marathon on TV!
But no, no, I must carry on.

Oh glorious day! Oh glorious day!

I know there are VERY few people I actually trust, politicians aren't even close to being on that list and Obummer is even farther away than even most leftists. While I never said it aloud, once he sealed all of his records, I came to the realization that the only documents we would ever see would be faked. I have no faith in this being a legit document, and there's near nothing that can prove to me this is a legit document.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: really? so - there is not one single president you trust? I find that hard to believe, and in fact - shows YOU to be a liar.

Only you could come to such a conclusion from what I said.

quote but, I already knew that, but, nice of you to confirm.

You're calling me a liar? OK, then F.O.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Is it sad that some of the above responses makes this the greatest day in my life?

No, but you might want to amend that to read the greatest day of your life in regards to politics. Surely, in 50 years you've had days a bit more satisfying than this one.

And, If you think this is great--wait till Nov 7th 2012.

If a Republican official took a look at it and confirmed it with other people who all watched the entire process and agreed it was legitimate, half of you would say they were all bought out.

Point is, some of you are set in your ways and are not willing to be proven wrong. I don't quite understand it.

Honestly this was never an issue for me.. All I see is the WH playing a bait and switch move.. (well played btw)

Keep the certificate as an issue.. then when you start your reelection bid throw the real one out.. makes everyone on the right look like dupes.
That way his record as POTUS and Senator won't even be questioned.. I guess "Present" is good enough for the masses..

Luckily 12ga is cheap, and reloads are quick and easy.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: If a Republican official took a look at it and confirmed it with other people who all watched the entire process and agreed it was legitimate, half of you would say they were all bought out. Point is, some of you are set in your ways and are not willing to be proven wrong. I don't quite understand it.

At this point, I would want a panel of experts to openly investigate and verify the document and interview everyone involved. The problem is that Obama has been secretive about this and now we wonder why he finally released something. Again, if he was open about it in the first place, this wouldn't be an issue.

All I want is that the truth to be known and Obama seems to want to hide something, for some reason. Heck, maybe he had a twin brother who died and he took his place... (or insert any other enquirer mag. type of story)

quote Originally posted by fierobear: At this point, I'm not sure. But the birth certificate was never a major issue for me anyway.

Same here. Besides, it's a little late in the game to try to disqualify Obama for the Presidency. IMO, that energy would be better spent looking for a suitable replacement.

That said, that birth certificate looks like something you could throw together in Photoshop in about 15 minutes. It also is not a certified copy (no seal of authenticity). So it is not a legal document.

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I looked at the document and have some questions. It looks like the document has a slit with right angle edges cut into it. How is it possible the the cut out piece below appears to be longer than the slit? It also appears to have some writting on it to the left. Did they paste this piece of the document onto a similar background? I also looked at the lettering in the document. It all appears to have a white outline around it. Wouldn't the pattern on the paper meet or intersect anything that is printed or written on it? This doesn't seem to happen with anything written on typed on the paper. Some of the horizontal green slotted lines also appear to have been tampered with also as they appear to have a little bit of a dark line running through them. Look just above and between the words Birth and Department.
Am I just seeing things now or did copying it cause these illusions? I don't care about this document, because his mother IS an American and that makes him one too.
Here is the document I looked at.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011...ased-by-white-house/

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I'm not an expert at photo editing, but it looks like a document was scanned, touched-up, and then transposed onto the green thatched background. The odd thing is that the "certifying signature" is apparently not part of the document above it (the curl on the left side stops above the signature). So apparently it's a collage of multiple documents.

Some of these responses are classic, very telling indeed.

I could care less on the birth part, but I do wonder why it took so long to produce this.

I also see this as a major step forward for Donald Trump. He just made President Obama do what millions of people have been screaming for him to do for years.

As I see it, Donald Trump just made a power play, and will now continue to build momentum, making President Obama his proverbial "***** " more and more over the next few months.

I actually gained a little respect for Donald Trump over this, and I have been on record arguing against the birther stuff for a few months now. To me this wasn't about the certificate, it was about who folds first.

Brad

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: I'm not an expert at photo editing, but it looks like a document was scanned, touched-up, and then transposed onto the green thatched background. The odd thing is that the "certifying signature" is apparently not part of the document above it (the curl on the left side stops above the signature). So apparently it's a collage of multiple documents.

President Obama's Birth Certificate PDF has "Layers"

Honestly, at this point I have trouble believing anything that comes out of Obama's mouth, or the new transparent government he runs. I see him as a weak leader and an embarrassment to the country.

I would bet there is a slight of hand thing happening here, I wonder what is slipping by whilst we all watch this carnival.

He must want to run against the Donald.

http://www.theonion.com/art...roving-hes-no,20250/

quote Originally posted by fierobear: President Obama's Birth Certificate PDF has "Layers"

One would hope that they were smart enough to flatten the image prior to releasing it.

CNN is really attacking Donald Trump right now, and CBS for giving him airtime during prime time, when "all he does is spread hate." lmao.

And then they get the swing in for the birthers, "Oh it has layers, nothing will make these nuts happy."

I've learned from the past to watch what happens after these things, they typically attack the thing they are most scared of.


Brad

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If you get into the witness protection program, the government can create new birth records. The upper left corner of the certificate is "bent" (like a photo copy from a book) while the bottom left is flat. Why did this take so many years and why are his college records sealed? When I applied to my first real job, I had to give authorization to release my transcripts.

Wow.... the White House can't even spoof a document correctly.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: Wow.... the White House can't even spoof a document correctly.

I am sure there are some people along the southern border who could get him a valid certificate in a matter of an hour

quote Originally posted by Old Lar: Why did this take so many years and why are his college records sealed? When I applied to my first real job, I had to give authorization to release my transcripts.

Maybe it's because a college education is NOT a requirement to become President in this country.

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quote Originally posted by Tigger: Maybe it's because a college education is NOT a requirement to become President in this country.

No, but my employers have all needed to see my birth certificate BEFORE hiring me. As one of the many employers of the POTUS(even though I didn't vote for him and never wanted him in office, as a taxpayer, I am on the "board of directors", so to speak, of this great nation and, as such, his employer), I wanted to see his birth certificate BEFORE him entering office.

How hard is that?

quote Originally posted by Tigger: Maybe it's because a college education is NOT a requirement to become President in this country.

But if you put it on your resume you better be able and willing to provide transcripts.

I find it hilarious that this happened at all in the first place.
Name one single time when you have had to show the long form of your birth certificate....
I am betting MOST of you have never even SEEN the long form of your birth certificate.

quote Originally posted by 8Ball: I find it hilarious that this happened at all in the first place. Name one single time when you have had to show the long form of your birth certificate.... I am betting MOST of you have never even SEEN the long form of your birth certificate.

I haven't run for president, but if I do, I will release mine.

quote Originally posted by 8Ball: I find it hilarious that this happened at all in the first place. Name one single time when you have had to show the long form of your birth certificate.... I am betting MOST of you have never even SEEN the long form of your birth certificate.

I have original copies of all versions of my birth certificate, long form and abbreviated Certificate of Live Birth, Certificate of Birth Abroad to American Parents, and having been born at the Landstuhl Army Regional Medical Center in 1983, I also have the original German official record of birth as well.

quote Originally posted by Scottzilla79: But if you put it on your resume you better be able and willing to provide transcripts.

Perhaps I need to clarify it just a little more... a college education and providing transcripts are NOT is NOT a requirement for becoming the President of the United States. You don't have to have a diploma or GED either.

You want to apply for a job at McDonalds? Then yes, by all means show off your college education and transcripts.

I didn't say it was a requirement either. I don't think it's a requirement to work at McDonalds, but if you got two kids applying to flip burgers, you might be more keen on hiring the guy who shows you his report cards.
By the way I don't doubt BO is a US citizen, I was just making the argument that it doesn't matter if it's required or not, it has become the practice to release everything if you are running for POTUS.

quote Originally posted by Tigger: Perhaps I need to clarify it just a little more... a college education and providing transcripts are NOT is NOT a requirement for becoming the President of the United States. You don't have to have a diploma or GED either. You want to apply for a job at McDonalds? Then yes, by all means show off your college education and transcripts.

I don't remember right off the top of my head, but didn't Obama use his college education in his campaign as a reason to vote for him? If he did, he should be forced to reveal his transcripts to his employers(us). If he didn't say anything about his college education during his campaign, then you're right, his college education is meaningless in this argument.

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: I am sure there are some people along the southern border who could get him a valid certificate in a matter of an hour

If he moved to Alaska he could even become a cop

...wow...does it normally take this long to have a birth certificate forged???

quote Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: ...wow...does it normally take this long to have a birth certificate forged???

He didnt ask

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quote Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: ...wow...does it normally take this long to have a birth certificate forged???

They had to eliminate the witnesses before releasing it!

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Did they say 'why' he chose to not unseal his records? (my original question back in 2009 when the issue 1st arose)

Or why he chose now to do it?

quote Originally posted by Nurb432: I have had to produce it, during an investigation for clearance. My 'official state copy' was not adequate.

I have never even seen mine. I have my step father's... It was in moms stuff. But never seen another one like it until now.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: ... it's a little late in the game to try to disqualify Obama for the Presidency.

Not exactly. If he is indeed not qualified he could be removed from office. If he is not qualified, any bill/law he signed would be null and void>

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: Is it sad that some of the above responses makes this the greatest day in my life?

How could they ? Are you saying you knew all along that he was ? Or you just believed it and am glad you were right ? Or do you glory in that others with doubt might have been wrong ?

quote Originally posted by twofatguys:

What is with the cut/curl? I still don't understand that part of the scan.