I know this has been stressed before and I`m not really sure if annual checkups could do any good in this situation but my brother-in-law`s daughter`s husband was one month ago diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma and just died yesterday.
Such a waste as he was early 20`s a great guy, going to college, and had just gotten married.
It hit me kinda hard although I had only been around him a couple of times because I think "that could be one of my kids" it can happen to anyone.
They were treating it with a very aggressive drug, so of course there is a question of if the cancer really killed him so fast or the drugs did.

Very sad.

Never know when your time's up, his passing is yet another reminder of this...

What strikes me sadly is good guys doing good things with their lives get taken unfairly early but guys like me who pretty much wasted there entire lives while purposly tempting fate at every turn just keep going on seemingly forever.
Not really very fair at all.

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And they said one to another, "Behold, for here comes the dreamer. Come now, let us slay him and we shall see what then will become of his dreams." ~ Genesis 37: 19-20

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: What strikes me sadly is good guys doing good things with their lives get taken unfairly early but guys like me who pretty much wasted there entire lives while purposly tempting fate at every turn just keep going on seemingly forever. Not really very fair at all.

Life never has been, nor ever will be fair.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Life never has been, nor ever will be fair.

But why wouldn't God make life fair?
I mean, it sure would put him in people's good graces.....

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: But why wouldn't God make life fair? I mean, it sure would put him in people's good graces.....

Fair God. Now thats an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

EDIT: I got off track OP sorry about your loss.

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: What strikes me sadly is good guys doing good things with their lives get taken unfairly early but guys like me who pretty much wasted there entire lives while purposly tempting fate at every turn just keep going on seemingly forever. Not really very fair at all. ......... But why wouldn't God make life fair? I mean, it sure would put him in people's good graces.....

It's been said many times.

Only the good die young.

(I don't ever remember reading where It says the objective is for Him to be put in our good graces--the objective being to put ourselves in His good graces.)

Sorry for your loss TXGOOD. Always hard to understand the loss of someone so young--my youngest sister died of liver failure before reaching 30.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: But why wouldn't God make life fair? I mean, it sure would put him in people's good graces.....

Because if he exists he is supposed to care about his creations, especially the one that follow his 'rules'.

TX: sorry for the loss to you and you family.

quote Because if he exists he is supposed to care about his creations, especially the one that follow his 'rules'.

That isn't how it works. We have free will and the ability to take care of ourselves. If we are dealt bad genes from our parents, that predispose us to getting cancer, that isn't God's fault. If we don't take care of our bodies (temples) that isn't God's fault. If a drunk driver runs us over and kills us, that isn't God's fault. God's judgement happens after we are all dead, not before then.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Life never has been, nor ever will be fair.

Awwwww, the age ole question, fond memories for me, the journey, a figmnet of my imagination, see here, [URL=http://quotes.dictionary.com/A_figment_is_a_product_of_somebodys_imagination?rh=www.google.com&__utma=1.23318323.1281288443.1301265475.1301273281.10&__utmb=1.8.9.1301273345687&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1301273281.10.8.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|u tmcmd]http://quotes.dictionary.co...ccn=(organic)|utmcmd[/URL] =organic|utmctr=dictionary&__utmv=-&__utmk=172098979

The funny answer so is obvious, it's unfortunate loss is tragic indeed! Free-will = Free-will, acceptance of this, tells you what? Philosophically, or persoanlly, or turely, or truthly, your choice, when you accept the light of truth, and no other, the availability of this causes commen sense, however, science has showns us, amongst the arts, or religions across time, that your pursuit of truth
to be what? Society today says that we, well, should find this on our own, yet, you here some people still say, " You think too much". The answer now obvious. However, the more you accept what is truthfull, the larger your insight grows, and of course comes
age, life goes on. Now, there exists only 1 question that which isn't righteous in any way! Again, free-will = Free will, so, that question not asked, do you know it, it's almost commen senseical, rite?

The unanswered question, which allows for growth, or is it, the unasked ?


edit to remain truthful to my own beliefs at the end sentence.
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Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines....
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cancer is never fair
No matter who u are or how old you are , cancer will get you.
You need to act fast {within 2 week} once you find you have any form of cancer , do something about it FAST

Sorry to hear.. things don't make much sense sometimes.

quote Originally posted by avengador1: God's judgement happens after we are all dead, not before then.

It could be said that God judged us the moment he created his own son as a future sacrifice for our future sins.

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Sorry to hear of the families' loss.

Not sure if we are going to be in the same boat with my brother in law. He had an aggressive cancerous cyst burst before they removed it. We are in wait mode to see if new growths show up. If it does....I will let him know that I will take care of his family. I never want a reason to say that to the living.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your condolences.
Mike

Add mine to it Mike.

Thanks, Cliff

Life is funny, I'm on my third year of bonus time. Accomplished a whole lot after I was supposed to die, probably more than the previous ten.

From plain old hep C with a third of my liver to an agressive 15 cm tumor in 25 days, I've tripled my morphine and force myself to eat a couple hundred calories a day.

I could go through a lot more painfull procedures that would inform whether I have two weeks or four weeks. I no longer care.

If death is the only option then the only difference is who you die with and how coherent. It has only been two days since I walked out of the hospital and told them no more holes in me. I am relieved it will be fast enough I won't go crazy with pain, but I doubt I am thinking normally.

I apologize if this is inappropriate, but to be practical fast is better than slow.

i'm so sorry to hear of your loss. cancer plain old sucks... it knows no boundaries of wealth, power, privilege. it doesn't respect love, bargaining, favors, goodness, or family. It cares not for grief and heartache. it only plows forward leaving in its wake destruction and death. cancer is my enemy. Some have mentioned about it being not fair or why God doesn't step in. God doesn't give cancer to us, He is there to help us through it - whether that is an end to life here on earth or not. If you can hold your faith after you lose someone you love to cancer or any early death, it is because God has stepped in already - maybe not in the way you hoped for - but He stepped in all the same. My heart goes to you and your family. take care

Thanks, nellieship I appreciate it.
And Phaeton, good luck to you.

Today is breezy and warm, snow turning to dirt.

Attitudes are strange. Two years ago when my scheduled death was supposed to arrive I vividly recall thinking "this is not a good time".

Skip to now.."this is not a good time". Just exactly WHEN is a good time? I grab at no good time means no bad time.


I post here at this time (pushing single digits) 'cause I was joined to this forum in 1999 as therapy, being a bit mental now and then. And although I doubt it had the desired effect I have enjoyed a constant in this forum that does not correlate with any other experience.

I hijack this thread because the title is too appropriate for me to ignore.

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Pheaton - I won't presume to know what you are going through exactly, but like you seem to have done, my son Tyler also made the decision for "no more holes in me." I can remember the day and the conversation like it was 2 minutes ago. Coming from a nursing background, I laid it all out for him with cold hard facts... as much as it pained me to do it, it was what he needed. He seemed to find some inner strength and inner peace with that decision that I am still striving to find. He too had pain - a lot of it - more than we probably realized. At the end his pain was so very, very great. I don't know your situation other than the little bit you have shared, but I want to offer you encouragement and kindness across cyberspace even though we are strangers to each other. I pray that God's peace surrounds you and that you reach out to Him because he is our ultimate healer of all things of this world. His healing may not come on this earth as we humanly understand things, which makes things so much more difficult for our narrow minds to fathom the great gift He offers to us. Please feel free to PM me if you need to talk - about anything. sometimes it helps to talk to a stranger.... we like to shelter the ones we love from what we really feel often times. Please keep God close and take care. Daneele

quote Originally posted by Phaeton: Today is breezy and warm, snow turning to dirt. Attitudes are strange. Two years ago when my scheduled death was supposed to arrive I vividly recall thinking "this is not a good time". Skip to now.."this is not a good time". Just exactly WHEN is a good time? I grab at no good time means no bad time. I post here at this time (pushing single digits) 'cause I was joined to this forum in 1999 as therapy, being a bit mental now and then. And although I doubt it had the desired effect I have enjoyed a constant in this forum that does not correlate with any other experience. I hijack this thread because the title is too appropriate for me to ignore.

quote Originally posted by Phaeton: Life is funny, I'm on my third year of bonus time. Accomplished a whole lot after I was supposed to die, probably more than the previous ten. From plain old hep C with a third of my liver to an agressive 15 cm tumor in 25 days, I've tripled my morphine and force myself to eat a couple hundred calories a day. I could go through a lot more painfull procedures that would inform whether I have two weeks or four weeks. I no longer care. If death is the only option then the only difference is who you die with and how coherent. It has only been two days since I walked out of the hospital and told them no more holes in me. I am relieved it will be fast enough I won't go crazy with pain, but I doubt I am thinking normally. I apologize if this is inappropriate, but to be practical fast is better than slow.

There is no way I understand how you must feel, to be faced with such a decision. I wish for you courage and strength to be able to face the inevitable with grace.

For TXGOOD, such a somber tale. That is so young. Did he have any knowledge that he had any cancer prior to being diagnosed as stage 4?

My best friend died October 13th of last year. Not even 20 years old yet.

Another friend died this morning/late last night. I didn't know her quite as well, but she was 20 years old, went to the bathroom, fell asleep and just never woke up. They think it was a heart problem...

Things happen. I could just not wake up tomorrow. It's crazy to think about...

quote Originally posted by Phaeton: Today is breezy and warm, snow turning to dirt. Attitudes are strange. Two years ago when my scheduled death was supposed to arrive I vividly recall thinking "this is not a good time". Skip to now.."this is not a good time". Just exactly WHEN is a good time? I grab at no good time means no bad time. I post here at this time (pushing single digits) 'cause I was joined to this forum in 1999 as therapy, being a bit mental now and then. And although I doubt it had the desired effect I have enjoyed a constant in this forum that does not correlate with any other experience. I hijack this thread because the title is too appropriate for me to ignore.

Wow. Seriously, wow. I have no words. Go in peace..

Whitedevil88 from what I know he went fishing with his father-in-law, who is a doctor, a few weeks ago and they were talking and he said one of the lymph nodes on his neck was swollen, and so he went to get it checked out. The cancer had already spread to a lot of his organs.
Who knows if he had symptoms before that, as we all know some people will refuse to believe something is wrong with them for fear of finding out something or for fear of worrying their family.