LOS ANGELES — Chipotle Mexican Grill has a lot going for it — an upscale burrito concept, a hip and eco-friendly image, expansion plans galore and a 500 percent-plus stock price gain in just over two years.
And then it has something not going its way — a federal crackdown on its immigrant labor force that has so far forced Chipotle to fire hundreds of allegedly illegal workers in the state of Minnesota, perhaps more than half its staff there.
The probe is widening. Co-Chief Executive Monty Moran told Reuters on Friday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has also issued "notices of inspection" for restaurants in Washington D.C. and Virginia.
Investors in the Wall Street darling are taking note and one firm, Calvert Investments, plans to talk to Chipotle about the large number of undocumented workers uncovered.
Dependence on illegal labor is the elephant in the room for the U.S. restaurant business.
The US Chamber of Commerce and the Republican party will NEVER really do anything to stop cheap labor from crossing our borders. It would hurt their God, the bottom line. http://www.orlandosentinel....115,0,7750573.column
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There will be no Arizona-style immigration law in Florida.
There will be no crackdown on illegal workers.
Gov. Rick Scott will be leading no bus caravans back to Mexico.
If this is the issue that fired you up and drove you to the polls [in the 2010 mid term elections], then it served its purpose. It rallied the conservative base. It played a key role in Scott's race against Bill McCollum in the Republican primary.
But now the campaigns are over, and reality has set in.
Too much of Florida's economy relies on illegal workers. So they aren't going anywhere except back to the hotel rooms, the construction sites, the restaurant kitchens and the vegetable fields.
If it's any consolation for him, McCollum was right when he said: "We don't need that law in Florida. That's not what's going to happen here." Truth can be bad politics.
And please do not rant against the liberals on this one.
Businesses don't want a crackdown. The cops don't want a crackdown. Republican strategists don't want a crackdown. Hispanic members of Congress and the Legislature don't want a crackdown.
[former governor] Jeb Bush, who co-chaired the Hispanic Leadership Network conference last week, is very vocal about not wanting a crackdown.
Do you feel dupedyet? Enjoy a fajita with the delicious sliced tomatoes on the side, and your Gallo wine to wash it down. And thank a Mexican illegal for the food, the wine, and the building where you ate it.
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Posts: 25242 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: We have one here too! Just looked it up and apparently it's a decent sized restaurant chain.
mmmmm
me & the wifey love to share the Pina Fajita - chicken/steak/shrimp fajita, done up in shelled pineapple 1/2, with a special pineapple salsa with a pitcher of Dos Equis
yummmmmm
dang...now I'm hungary.....looks like I know where I'll be going tonight after the gym.....
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The Democrat party will NEVER really do anything to stop cheap labor, and criminals from crossing our borders. It would hurt their God, their electoral base.
Fixed it for ya.
Jim
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Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
If this is a chain wide practice I will never eat there again.
Minnesota is kinda hurting right now without people taking jobs from "legal" citizens. Seriously, the locals should be pissed to the point of rioting, especially if they are actively looking for a job. Basically Chipotle said to the country that they could care less about America, or Americans, they just want to make money, at any cost.
me & the wifey love to share the Pina Fajita - chicken/steak/shrimp fajita, done up in shelled pineapple 1/2, with a special pineapple salsa with a pitcher of Dos Equis
yummmmmm
dang...now I'm hungary.....looks like I know where I'll be going tonight after the gym.....
Yeah, I love the place. The one I go to used to be called Garcias Restaurant. Aztekas took it over some 4-5 years ago, and really didn't change much. The salsa changed, but that's really it. The mariachi band still comes through the bar portion of the restaurant when everyone is falling off their bar stools. But the child-friendly side of the restaurant is still totally the same as it was.
The food is mega-greasy... but oh man, la comida es muy rico y bueno!
this is a great way for IRS agents to earn their keep. Frankly, we need more enforcement of the law, and fewer new laws. As for republicans vs democrats, they are all the same... out for the vote. But, then you have the tea party group, who stand alone on their ideals and yet liberals get their panties in a bunch. So, what to learn from this is that liberals = democrats.... same thing, different name.
I am all for cracking down on businesses, and the Federal government needs to make it harder to get here illegally and also citizenship documentation should not be easy to duplicate.
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Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
Obviously Neptune, you have never met the Rupublican party members living in AZ.
EDIT: Add: Chipotle is owned by McDonalds.
Yes, I have.
And nope.
Sorry:
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Chipotle became a susidiary of McDonald's in 1999 when McDonald's acquired the controlling stake of the company. At one point, McDonald's owned shares accounting for approximately 87% of the voting power of Chipotle's common stock. In Chipotle's earlier stages, McDonald's helped Chipotle's operations by sharing its own distribution networks.
Currently, Mcdonald's no longer has anything to do with Chipotle Mexican Grill. They have divested completely from Chipotle.
I don't even like Chipotle. I gave them a couple of chances when I lived in TX, and gave them 2 chances here, but even before I heard this news, I had already decided I wasn't going back.
This just reinforces that decision.
But now maybe some people I know can get jobs.
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I now got one, but I can't have it untill I can prove I am a citizan of the United States. And I am about as ultra-white looking & speaking as you can get. You could not mistake me for anything but pure, unadulterated white-trash.......
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The US Chamber of Commerce and the Republican party will NEVER really do anything to stop cheap labor from crossing our borders. It would hurt their God, the bottom line.
Unlike the bang up job the Democrats have done to curb illegal immigration?
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Originally posted by Formula88: Unlike the bang up job the Democrats have done to curb illegal immigration?
lol and, how about the full picture, with the elephants in the background hiring them wall crawlers?
they certainly dont jump the wall to vote, do they?
and, funny how during dem control, there are more deportations (aka - the laws being enforced) than under rep control
I dont deny that the rep voting base makes the most noise - but - their elected officals do the least about it....
the opening topic shows why
and, dont forget that these same folk also are religous voters - so, dont try to pin this voting BS to heavily - because the religous right gets quite a few votes from these wall crawlers.
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Although McDonald's dumped them, I'm sure McDonalds is next.
But in my opinion, this is sad. I'm sorry folks, but I don't have any problem with illegal immigrats who are hard working and law abiding (other than crossing) and are getting paid at least a decent wage. The trouble makers we should deport, but people just trying to make a better life for themselves and their families by escaping the leftist cesspool countries they fleed from, I just flat out don't blame them. I would do it too.
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My brother used to manage and work as a manager trainer for Chipolte' a few years ago.
Company policy was wink wink.. ya they supplied a SSN we're all good It was well known and accepted..
BTW Neptune.. Ya very lib company, supported every progressive cause they could get their hands on to keep their "hip and trendy" image. Now that might be an evil, conservative marketing ploy.. or it might be a core belief based on who was getting Sr positions.. that's open to how you want to view it.
I'll say this, I used to maybe hit them once a month or so because they were convenient and ok (better than taco bell).. but since the turn over of their illegals, service and quality has dropped.. Now I'll hit the well known mex/illegal places.. Sorry the food is better.. You don't ask a Swede or Somali to make decent mex/sw food.. they're just not going to understand.
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Posts: 11159 From: Benton County, OR Registered: Dec 2002
I now got one, but I can't have it untill I can prove I am a citizan of the United States. And I am about as ultra-white looking & speaking as you can get. You could not mistake me for anything but pure, unadulterated white-trash.......
Illegals come from other countries than just Mexico Eh.
I know your "one of us" but once they saw you in person, even they had to question themselves.
Brad
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lol and, how about the full picture, with the elephants in the background hiring them wall crawlers?
they certainly dont jump the wall to vote, do they?
and, funny how during dem control, there are more deportations (aka - the laws being enforced) than under rep control
I dont deny that the rep voting base makes the most noise - but - their elected officals do the least about it....
the opening topic shows why
and, dont forget that these same folk also are religous voters - so, dont try to pin this voting BS to heavily - because the religous right gets quite a few votes from these wall crawlers.
Nobody, dem or rep is bothering to grab them at that wall and throw 'em back over. The whole concept of forcing the corporations to do the job of strictly enforcing our immigration laws thru a paperwork trail was flawed to begin with, but was supported for 2 reasons. 1. Provided cheap labor, which the repubs supported. 2. Provided lots of people who would be more likely to vote liberal-- thru amnesty, a path to citizenship, or "anchor babies" which the Dems desperately needed--and still do.
It's no surprise to learn more are being sent back now, as more always come over during times when there is lots of talk about immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship or amnesty. ("In before the lock" swarming across the border, were common back when Reagan was in office) That path, would apply to people (illegals) already in the country as of a certain (yet to be determined) date, tho the original 2009 Bill slated for debate said:
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Title V: Legalization of Undocumented Individuals Lawful Prospective Immigrants Creates a provisional legal status, Lawful Prospective Immigrant (LPI), for undocumented immigrants who are present in the U.S. as of September 30, 2010, register with the government, have never committed a serious crime, and are otherwise admissible to the United States.
but most certanly the estimated 15 million already here would qualify if Harry Reid were able to push his and Obama's vision of Immigration Reform thru senate and house, but both Reagan and Bush supported some sort of immigration reform as well. Here's the summary of the Obama Administration's vision for immigration reform: http://www.immigrationpolic...orm-act-2010-summary
The actual name for this bill is/was Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America’s Security and Prosperity Act of 2009
Personally, I want the Federal GOVT to do the job we elected them to do, and I want the Federal GOVT to do the work of identifiying and deporting ALL illegal immigrants. The problem does NOT start at the Human Resource Depts of Company Acme--it starts at THE BORDER----------that's where the 1st criminal act is committed--is not being taken seriously--and that's the job of the US GOVT. Why? Because the courts have said it is. Let a border state EVEN TALK about passing tougher immigration laws, and see which party affiliation raises the most hell about it in protest.
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Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Yeah, I love the place. The one I go to used to be called Garcias Restaurant. Aztekas took it over some 4-5 years ago, and really didn't change much. The salsa changed, but that's really it. The mariachi band still comes through the bar portion of the restaurant when everyone is falling off their bar stools. But the child-friendly side of the restaurant is still totally the same as it was.
The food is mega-greasy... but oh man, la comida es muy rico y bueno!
well...went to my local Azteca - and guess what? a whole new staff. curious and, none of them looked "authentic" - well, one was close, a light black girl who could maybe pass..... hmpf.....
