"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain."
"A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then, that is is the year 10191. The known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam the Fourth, my father. In this time, the most precious substance in the universe is the spice Melange. The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The Spacing Guild and its navigators, who the spice has mutated over 4000 years, use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space. That is, travel to any part of the universe without moving. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The spice exists on only one planet in the entire universe. A desolate, dry planet with vast deserts. Hidden away within the rocks of these deserts are a people known as the Fremen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah, who would lead them to true freedom. The planet is Arrakis, also known as...............Dune."
We had the original, totally awesome.
Then we had the very questionable three part TV mini-series:
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
But I would like to redo Dune in the MUCH grander scale that todays tech affords us. And all the books, right down the line. Every year or so.
After all, how many installments of Star Trek movies were there again, through the years?
"We Fremen have a saying: "God created Arakis to train the faithful." One cannot go against the word of God."
"Some thoughts have a certain sound, that being the equivalent to a form. Through sound and motion, you will be able to paralyze nerves, shatter bones, set fires, suffocate an enemy or burst his organs. We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arakeen air."
. . . . . . ******************************** And then his son took over: ********************************
"He who controls the Spice, controls the universe! THE SPICE MUST FLOW!"
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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion It is by the juice of the beans that thoughts acquire speed The hands begin to shake The shakes become a warming It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion
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There's a lot of on-again, off again talk about a new movie.
DUNE was a great novel, followed by some more or less pretty good sequels. The movie was not nearly as good as the book, by most accounts. I found it dull and slow. One critic has called it "the runt of the [David] Lynch litter." The studio spent a ton, and didn't make much money on it, IIRC. Kind of like Waterworld and The Postman. Maybe cost vs return profit is keeping the series dead. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Maybe cost vs return profit is keeping the series dead.
Ya think? If it had been a money maker it would have already been done.
I agree that it was a decent movie but did take way to long to unfold. It's a movie, the script writers, director, producers and actors only have so long to tell the story.
I saw the original movie in the theaters, and later the "extended" version that was broadcast. I liked it as a movie, but felt it deviated far from the books in ways I thought were fairly distracting (WTF is a "weirding module", anyway? That wasn't even in the book!) and detracted from the story. Acting was superb, and casting was brilliant in its unconventionality.
The Sci-Fi miniseries was more true to the story lines but the acting was mediocre, even to the point that it dragged Hurt's performance down several notches. I found most of the miniseries to be just ok, nothing more. Most of what I got from it was actually just seeing visualization of scenes I remembered from the books. I think that most people going into the miniseries without having read the books first would probably find the miniseries completely unpalatable.
That being said, I think that the technology now exists to make a spectacularly visual remake. IMHO it would have to be done as a multi-movie series much like Lord of the Rings in order to get the basic story lines in place and fleshed out (though it could never be done to the books' level, they're just too big), and most importantly it would require really top-notch writing and casting. With a budget in the hundreds of millions the movies would have to be good enough to appeal to a much broader market than just those who are fans of the books in order to turn a profit.
As an alternative, I wouldn't be against the books being done as animations; I think they might even do well in that venue.
That reminds me, time to dig out my well-worn reader copies and put them back in the queue.
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I agree with JazzMan. While Hollywood is more than capable of producing the visual experience, getting good writing and acting is going to be a problem. And that's basically what happened with the SciFi miniseries. IMO, we don't really need any more of that.
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Dune was boring. Bad story line, too. No boobs, either. Men need to see boobs. Or explosions. Preferably one after the other. Never did finish watching it.
..Dune was probably the worse big budget movie of all time,I kept waiting for it to get better,,IT WAS TERRIBLE,,NOT EVEN A DILDO RELAY RACE ,FEATURING THE MOST BUXOM LADIES IN THE WORLD ,WOULD HAVE SAVED IT,and dildo relay racing is so facinating,you do not need a midget..Visions of just desert blowing shifting sand are better than Dune ..Road to Ishtar by commie W, beatty was an acadimy award winner compared to Dune...Dune??a 5 star disaster train wreck..A full bag of Laotian thai stick would not help this movie,,.Im not talking you need a crutch to move around weed,,.Im talking comatose babeling real wheelchair weed !! some one actually like this movie???
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I wonder if this girl ever gets anyone comming up to her telling her how awesome her dad was, or if there's something else they find more interesting???
I wonder if this girl ever gets anyone comming up to her telling her how awesome her dad was, or if there's something else they find more interesting???
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Yeah, I enjoyed it, but I'm just a sci fi junkie. The funny thing is, I watched it again a few months ago, and didn't enjoy it that much. It seemed odd and melodramatic.
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Yeah, I enjoyed it, but I'm just a sci fi junkie. The funny thing is, I watched it again a few months ago, and didn't enjoy it that much. It seemed odd and melodramatic.
I have seen it atleast 30 times. It's style is in no way mine. But it has a certain "The Ten Commandments" feel about it. It feels like it WANTED to be an epic. If only Cecil B. Demille could have taken a shot at it.
I think I liked (not love) it for what it COULD have been......
The movies were good, but the books were so much better. I love the concept of folding space, and the kyle inversion. I really got into the Dune series. I really like The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan too. I like the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evonovich for comedy reading. I'm really into The Dragons of Pern by Anne McCaffrey. Her son has taken over now too. All of these books have very richly detailed character lives and plots. Next to swimming, reading is my favorite hobby.
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..Dune was probably the worse big budget movie of all time,I kept waiting for it to get better,,IT WAS TERRIBLE,,NOT EVEN A DILDO RELAY RACE ,FEATURING THE MOST BUXOM LADIES IN THE WORLD ,WOULD HAVE SAVED IT,and dildo relay racing is so facinating,you do not need a midget..Visions of just desert blowing shifting sand are better than Dune ..Road to Ishtar by commie W, beatty was an acadimy award winner compared to Dune...Dune??a 5 star disaster train wreck..A full bag of Laotian thai stick would not help this movie,,.Im not talking you need a crutch to move around weed,,.Im talking comatose babeling real wheelchair weed !! some one actually like this movie???
Come on Uhlanstan. That's a bit harsh isn't it? It was entertaining though.
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