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Obama Was Not Constitutionally Certified To Run For President! by avengador1
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http://visiontoamerica.org/...n-for-president.html
 
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Barrack Obama was not Constitutionally certified to run for president of the United States of America in 49 of the 50 states. Only Hawaii was sent a document from Nancy Pelosi certifying that BHO was "constitutionally eligible" to run for president. Apparently this fact has been not just documented but well documented. Copies of official DNC documents now show that is it was Hawaii's local Democratic Party that refused to unclude that certification of eligibility originating from Pelosi. Using World Net Daily's and other's documentation this video was made to show the undermining of America's election process by the Democrat Party.




Sounds like election fraud perpetrated by the DNC to me.

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Does the States need to send anything? Presidents are elected by the electorial college.

How many states sent Baby Bush documents on being constitutionally certified?

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Here are a couple more articles on this.


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=207197
http://www.canadafreepress....9/williams091209.htm
 
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Such is the case today!

A political national committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, Party offices in each of fifty states, and maybe many Ð many more, have knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American election system and more than 300 million American citizens.

They plotted and planned an act of evil, unlawful, treacherous fraud in a blind quest for unbridled political power, and they hoped that you would never catch it. They almost got away with it too...

They snuck it past fifty state election commissions, congress, the US Supreme Court and Justice Department, the Federal Elections Commission and countless members of the Electoral College nationwide. Not a single member of the, as Limbaugh says, "drive-by media" caught it either, or if they did, they decided to become complicit for their own political reasons.

But as is always the case with liars, cheats and thieves, they slip up Ð make a silly mistake Ð overplay their hand Ð leave evidence lying around that they had forgotten about. And as with all chronic liars, they eventually get caught in their own web of lies.

Then, one day, someone stumbles into that evidence, and the house of cards comes crashing down around them. It's almost poetic...

The Mistake
Aware of the fact that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II Ð Section I constitutional requirements for the office of President, what well-seasoned professional politician would be stupid enough to sign their name and stake their personal career upon certifying Obama as eligible?

Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are nominated at their respective Party Conventions.

Believe it or not, each Party is assigned the duty of vetting and certifying the legal eligibility of their own candidates. I know, like asking the fox to guard the henhouse, right. But hey, we are talking about a country which still thinks there is a separation of powers between the High Court and the Executive branch, which seats that court by way of political appointment, confirmed by congress, which wants a piece of the judge and expects a few political favors too.



U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1
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The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

(In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.) (This clause in parentheses has been modified by the 20th and 25th Amendments.)

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

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Tell me about it!

God, this has been proven about 5 diffrent ways.

This is really irrelevant, since hes not a citizen, he shouldnt have been eligable as a candidate in the first place.
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AGAIN!!

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I suppose it must be true since I see it in a cartoon.

Welcome to the reason why America's youth are 24th in education when we were Numero UNO when I was a student.
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To defend both sides....

Sweeping something under the rug, making fun of it, or just generally turning a cheek because one may not believe, is a great deturrent to the truth.

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I suppose it must be true since I see it in a cartoon.

Welcome to the reason why America's youth are 24th in education when we were Numero UNO when I was a student.


Ah yes.... the dumbing down of America by the use of Political satire in cartoons. Huh????

Never had them back in your day did ya?
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Ah yes.... the dumbing down of America by the use of Political satire in cartoons. Huh????

Never had them back in your day did ya?


Well of course there were. The dumbing down has taken some time.

You know it seems to me that you are just looking for an excuse (like Pythrian) to post. You can't be so dumb to not understand the meaning in his post.

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I know it's a rehash of the "is he a natural born citizen", it's the shenanigans behind his nomination that has people concerned. Things like this make people wonder just how crooked our elections have been recently and who is behind this.
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AGAIN!!



At least no one will get killed over this like the Muslim cartoons!
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That cartoon is stupid, it has no actual relevance to anything, and thus is completely ambiguous



Hur hur hurrrr... see what I did dere?
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Well of course there were. The dumbing down has taken some time.

You know it seems to me that you are just looking for an excuse (like Pythrian) to post. You can't be so dumb to not understand the meaning in his post.


No I don't understand what meaning he had by saying someone posting a cartoon relates to the education level of Americans but please feel free to enlighten me to what someone else meant.
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Ah yes.... the dumbing down of America by the use of Political satire in cartoons. Huh????

Never had them back in your day did ya?


sure we did. But they were based on some semblence of reality. When you saw a characature of Jimmy Carter with Huge teeth it was becasue....he had huge teeth. To suggest that Tea Partiers are racist is NOT even remotely based on reality. It IS however, very typical of Nazi like propaganda.
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OK, don't get me wrong though I don't agree with that cartoon anymore than I do the ones of Obama as Hitler or the like.

My point was just that I think it's been happening all along and that the fact that Americans are scoring worse in testing has nothing to do with one another.
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sure we did. But they were based on some semblence of reality. When you saw a characature of Jimmy Carter with Huge teeth it was becasue....he had huge teeth. To suggest that Tea Partiers are racist is NOT even remotely based on reality. It IS however, very typical of Nazi like propaganda.


Climb off your horse, it isn't that high!

I don't know how old you are, nor you I. The dumbing down of the American Youth (20 somethings) has nothing to do with cartoons. Believe it or not, they have them in the countries that are, and have been besting us educationally as well. It's a joke, satire, get over it. Kids today have are lazy, and have a "you owe it to me" attitude. You won't find that in the youth of most other countries. Their lackadaisical attitude toward life in general comes from their parents, not the educational system. It disgusts me what the kids today get away with. I have three children of my own, and for them, education comes first. That is not the norm in our society today.

When you look at younger children, the same could be said of many of their parents as well. The Baby-Boomer generation is supporting a huge piece of society today. We've created a crazy mess in our society. It's fundamentally broken on many levels. If it can be "fixed", it may take generations!
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Ahhh... Racist, gotcha, I honestly, no BS, didnt get that.

Since when is the TeaParty been assosciated with racism? Other than the fact that the current Dumoesedent is black, what else is there?

Well still doesnt really make sense, because none of them are wearing robes, and the KKK burning crosses does not sybolize its hatred for other races FYI.
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OK, don't get me wrong though I don't agree with that cartoon anymore than I do the ones of Obama as Hitler or the like.

My point was just that I think it's been happening all along and that the fact that Americans are scoring worse in testing has nothing to do with one another.


In America it is perfectly fine for citizens to attack politicians through political cartoons.
But it is not OK to attack citizens through political cartoons.
Don't know about Canada though.
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If it can be "fixed", it may take generations!


Oh its going to take generations to fix it alright.
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At least no one will get killed over this like the Muslim cartoons!





I guess now I'm a racist.

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Climb off your horse, it isn't that high!

I don't know how old you are, nor you I. The dumbing down of the American Youth (20 somethings) has nothing to do with cartoons. Believe it or not, they have them in the countries that are, and have been besting us educationally as well. It's a joke, satire, get over it. Kids today have are lazy, and have a "you owe it to me" attitude. You won't find that in the youth of most other countries. Their lackadaisical attitude toward life in general comes from their parents, not the educational system. It disgusts me what the kids today get away with. I have three children of my own, and for them, education comes first. That is not the norm in our society today.

When you look at younger children, the same could be said of many of their parents as well. The Baby-Boomer generation is supporting a huge piece of society today. We've created a crazy mess in our society. It's fundamentally broken on many levels. If it can be "fixed", it may take generations!


You are right, I do not know how old you are but I can guess based on your ignorant reply. I am not on a high horse. Not liking a joke does not make me a stick in the mud. When I see a FUNNY joke, I laugh. When I see propaganda, I point it out. Simple as that. This cartoon was not only not funny, it was dangerous. It makes people fear a group of well meaning Americans and it insults the vast majority of Americans who identify themselves with the values of the Tea Party movement, lower taxes, limited government, states rights, etc.

And you are only partly right about lazy Americans being the product of poor parenting. The education system in America has us ranked in the 20's in math and science but #1 in terms of confidence. So much of our education system is designed to reward mediocrity instead of exceptionalism. As a result, we are producing an ever more arrogant (note your post) generation of young people who don't have the brains to back-up their blabberings.
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Wonder if that was a group of Muslims burning a menorah if it would be just as funny?
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In America it is perfectly fine for citizens to attack politicians through political cartoons.
But it is not OK to attack citizens through political cartoons.
Don't know about Canada though.


What citizens were attacked?
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What citizens were attacked?


Well I guess that Tea Party members ARE just a bunch of racists and are not classified as citizens, my mistake.
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What citizens were attacked?


Most of them. 50% of Americans identify with the Tea Party Platform as do 35% of likely black voters!! Kinda throws that whole cross burning non-sense right out the window doesn't it?

edit for link because some fool will dare me to prove my stats:
http://www.washingtonexamin...06876-103821968.html

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Well I guess that Tea Party members ARE just a bunch of racists and are not classified as citizens, my mistake.


Never said any such thing.

You said "But it is not OK to attack citizens through political cartoons." So now you are saying it's not OK to print a cartoon that satires or attacks a Political group? News to me.
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Never said any such thing.

You said "But it is not OK to attack citizens through political cartoons." So now you are saying it's not OK to print a cartoon that satires or attacks a Political group? News to me.


Satire is fine, viciously attacking a group as racists when there in no evidence goes way beyond acceptance.
If that was a group of color with the same massage, OMG the libs would be calling for someones head.

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Satire is fine, viciously attacking a group as racists when there in no evidence goes way beyond acceptance.
If that was a group of color with the same massage, OMG the libs would be calling for someones head.



Again , He isn't dumb. He gets it, he is just stubborn and likes the back and forth ping pong..

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You are right, I do not know how old you are but I can guess based on your ignorant reply. I am not on a high horse. Not liking a joke does not make me a stick in the mud. When I see a FUNNY joke, I laugh. When I see propaganda, I point it out. Simple as that. This cartoon was not only not funny, it was dangerous. It makes people fear a group of well meaning Americans and it insults the vast majority of Americans who identify themselves with the values of the Tea Party movement, lower taxes, limited government, states rights, etc.

And you are only partly right about lazy Americans being the product of poor parenting. The education system in America has us ranked in the 20's in math and science but #1 in terms of confidence. So much of our education system is designed to reward mediocrity instead of exceptionalism. As a result, we are producing an ever more arrogant (note your post) generation of young people who don't have the brains to back-up their blabberings.


Oh, I understand now. A joke s funny if it aligns with your political views. Gotcha! note to self: Jokes, political cartoons, and satire that may refer to the Tea Party in a negative light should not be posted on PFF. Doing so labels you as ignorant.

As a U.S. Citizen, my political views align with those that you identify with the Tea Party movement, but I am also one who is cautious, and concerned when I see the "Fringe Movement" that is moving along with that group. Birthers, and Christian "Purists" scare the hell out of me. An individuals rights are just as important as the list you give of Tea Party values. I know that here on this forum that my political view may not put me in the PFF majority, but I am far from a party line voter for the democratic party either. Believe me, there are many points where you and I will agree, but I am not going to follow a group blindly just because I like the beat of their drum. Although this is a whole new argument (which I know won't win me points here on PFF), I am concerned with the seemingly narrow views that seem to exist with some of the Tea Party backed candidates.

Number one in confidence... A system designed to reward mediocrity... You've got that right! The American Youth of today expect a reward just for their existence. As a coach, leader, and active supporter of many youth activities in my community, I have survived many a lynching from parents who disagree with my views. I will be first in line to reward a kid for a job well done, but you'll get no prize from me just for being there. This is not the sentiment of the majority of parents out there today.
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Again , He isn't dumb. He gets it, he is just stubborn and likes the back and forth ping pong..


Hey did you just defend me call me stubborn in the same post?

Thanks, I think...
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I can remember when every non-conservative called the entire Tea Party nothing but a "fringe movement"--including those in congress and the White House press secretary. They aren't so cocky nowdays.
Ever decreasing circles it seems.
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Number one in confidence... A system designed to reward mediocrity... You've got that right! The American Youth of today expect a reward just for their existence. As a coach, leader, and active supporter of many youth activities in my community, I have survived many a lynching from parents who disagree with my views. I will be first in line to reward a kid for a job well done, but you'll get no prize from me just for being there. This is not the sentiment of the majority of parents out there today.


Careful--you'll have some of younger folks crying.
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Originally posted by KidO: Oh, I understand now. A joke s funny if it aligns with your political views. Gotcha! note to self: Jokes, political cartoons, and satire that may refer to the Tea Party in a negative light should not be posted on PFF. Doing so labels you as ignorant.

Nah, it's just Todd. Ignore him, and he'll go away.

BTW, I thought that cartoon was funny. And I support many of the ideals espoused by the Tea Party. But then again, I have a sense of humor... hehe.
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We are all unique snowflakes.
Some more "flakey" then others, but precious, none the less.

The World needs every single one of us.

Now lets all hold hands.

Koom-bye-yah,m'lord,koom-bye-ya.....mmmmmmm, better.
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for what?
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Dude...... Uh....Let go of my hand.
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