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My rant. by FieroFanaticus2
Started on: 08-21-2010 12:16 PM
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Report this Post08-21-2010 12:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanaticus2Send a Private Message to FieroFanaticus2Direct Link to This Post
I think a lot of the people who are on welfare or assistance of one type or another are just using the system to be lazy... but, there are a handful of people who do not want to be on welfare or assistance but are because they have families to feed. I am one of them. I hate being on foodstamps. I hate standing in line and pulling out my foodstamp card to pay for food. I see the looks people give me and hear them whispering about it.

I feel guilty and ashamed about it, like I'm less than a worthy member of society. A Leach. But, I don't live in a fancy place (small 2-bedroom apartment), I don't drive new cars (both vehicle are from the 90's and have issues), we don't go out and spend money for entertainment (our biggest outing is a $15 (for all of us) breakfast with my wifes parents sunday morning after church).
The food we buy with tax payers money is not extravegant but mostly just the staples we need .. eggs, bread, milk, and ground beef when it's on sale. I refuse to buy anything that could be considered luxury items - soda, candy, snack foods....

We also use the local food pantry, but again I only take what is good for us and don't go for the junk that a lot of the other people I see there do, and I only take what my family will eat within a week or so. I don't take things just to take them or because they there for the taking.

I'm working very hard to get off of foodstamps and become fully self-sufficient. In fact, last year we were given $406 a month for food for a family of 3. This year we're getting $116 a month. Sure, it's harder on me to pay for food because I don't make an extra $300 a month this year.... but I see it as a sign of success. Next year, if things go the way they are now, we won't receive any foodshare money and will probably have to pay for our state-provided insurance. (we get state provided insurance because I'm self employed, have a child, and am not offered affordable insurance from anywhere else. I personally have used it once in the last 2 years.)

I refuse to live in low-income housing unless I absolutely have to. I am not a drug addict or alcoholic and do not wish for my child to grow up living next to them and thinking it's normal and acceptable. (edit - I know that not all people in section 8 housing are drug addicts or alcholics, it's just my observation in this area and others I've seen, that the majority are) I could pay $12 a month for rent if I accepted the help, instead I pay $600 and all utilities. We do not have cable tv or any type of tv other than what comes directly out of the outlet. I do not have a cellphone. We do not have internet at home (I use internet at work). We borrow movies from the library. My wife does the dishes by hand instead of using the dishwasher in our apartment. We do whatever we can in order to save money.

Sometimes I have to laugh when I pick up a magazine that says "Save $500 a month just by making these small changes in your habits".... I read through it and we're already doing everything it says plus more. We never had gym memberships, club memberships, or any other type of membership to drop in order to save money.

I don't think we need to do away with all of it (government/state assistance), but that it should be regulated more tightly and given to those who genuinely show promise that they are making efforts to better their situation... as well as not abusing the assistance they receive or using drugs. We give way too much to people who just don't give a $hit and look as their assistance as part of their income instead of a temporary helping-hand.

I stand in the food pantry line, sometimes for over an hour, and listen to some of the other people there complaining about what they're getting, or bragging about how much they take. It makes me want to smack them. I'm very greatful for whatever I get.... and I've eatten some pretty disgusting stuff just to eat. My wife complained the other day about the food not lasting long enough (and most if it is already expired when we get it).... I told her that she and our son could eat all the food we get from the pantry and foodshare and that I would pick food out of the dumpster behind McDonalds to eat. And I would. I'm not above eatting scraps. Beggers can't be choosers. And I'm an American!

The shoes I have on right now are K-swiss's... nice huh? They were when they were new. Now they're almost 2 years old, the soles have no tread left and the leather is peeling away from the base, leaving big holes that dirt and water get into everyday. Not to mention they have zero padding left in them. I take them off whenever I can because they hurt my feet.... but I refuse to buy a new pair until I absolutely have to. The clothes I wear are all gifts from one holiday or another, and I'll wear them for years or until my wife shrinks them in the washer/dryer that they no longer fit, then I'll wait until the next holiday to get more. I cut my own hair with buzz clippers.

Sometimes it seems like I look around at our friends and family, and other people I don't know, and they all go out to dinners, to the movies, to bars, bowling, weekend get-a-ways, etc etc. All the time it seems. My wife and I get a night to ourselves about once every other month when her mother watches our son for a night. We might rent a movie and stay home that night, pop some popcorn in a saucepan. It seems like everyone else has money to burn, even in a recession. Even people who make less than us.

August 16th was our 2nd anniversary. I convinced my wifes mother to take our son for 2 whole nights so we could actually get away for a solid day, just the two of us. We decided to go to a state park, since we have a park sticker and it's cheap. We were going to camp at Devil's Lake State Park in Baraboo, Wi. They were full. So, we drove town looking for a cheap place to stay and came across the Swanson Hotel. $45 a night. That was a waste. Here's my review on it http://local.yahoo.com/info...?tab=reviews#reviews I also contacted the city administrator to make a complaint to the county health department. My wife offered to sleep in the van instead of that place. Go to the review and look at the pictures! ( I took those pics and posted them) (the review was 5 stars before we visited (with 1 review) now there's 3 (including mine) and they're down to 2 1/2) So, we went to a different place down the road, a much nicer place. The next day we went to the park and walked the trails. My poor wife. I told her I wanted to walk the trails to relieve stress. I wasn't planning on walking, and she wasn't expecting to walk, over 7 miles of rugged trails going up and down bluffs and into the deep woods. We both had blisters the next day. But it did relieve some of the stress I had.

Anyway, I'm running out of things to complain about. You probably didn't read this far, but if you did I'm sorry, there's no way to get the last 5 minutes of your life back.

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Report this Post08-21-2010 12:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
Sometimes, it helps to just 'get it out there', and other people may be able to offer suggestions or advice. They can also reply with similar stories, they might be going through the same sort of things, or have gone through them, and survived, which gives you hope.

As bad as things may be, it is SOOOO important to remember that so many have it worse (some have it MUCH WORSE). THAT is hard to do, but try to see the good things you currently have.

Keep fighting the good fight. See what the tide bring you tomorrow, and enjoy the simple things in your life. Focus on the good.

Do what you can to reduce/eliminate frustrations. I would replace the shoes - every time you slip them on, it frustrates you a little bit. not worth it. Shoes are 20-30 bucks.

Not gonna rant about your rant. Enjoy your weekend.
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Sounds like you know the difference between a hand out and a hand up!

If the available social programs you are on are helping you to become self-sufficient, and self-reliant GOOD FOR YOU. To me this sounds like the case so don’t get down on yourself keep your head high and keep working toward your goals. If on the other hand you are simply using the programs to just get by then shame on you. To me this doesn’t sound like the case, so again I say don’t get down on yourself. Most of us are truly only 4-6 paychecks from disaster.

It’s good to vent a little among friends, as long as it’s just venting and letting go of your frustration. My two cents worth – never be afraid to ask for help when you need it (a hand up not a hand out). Once you’re back on your feet you will find many others that could use a hand up. I picked out two things in your post that you have going for you. That is FAMILY & CHURCH.

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Report this Post08-21-2010 01:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanaticus2Send a Private Message to FieroFanaticus2Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:

Sometimes, it helps to just 'get it out there', and other people may be able to offer suggestions or advice. They can also reply with similar stories, they might be going through the same sort of things, or have gone through them, and survived, which gives you hope.

As bad as things may be, it is SOOOO important to remember that so many have it worse (some have it MUCH WORSE). THAT is hard to do, but try to see the good things you currently have.

Keep fighting the good fight. See what the tide bring you tomorrow, and enjoy the simple things in your life. Focus on the good.

Do what you can to reduce/eliminate frustrations. I would replace the shoes - every time you slip them on, it frustrates you a little bit. not worth it. Shoes are 20-30 bucks.

Not gonna rant about your rant. Enjoy your weekend.


That's more or less the meaning of the post. Just to get some of what's on my mind out there. Over all, I think, I enjoy what I have and do. I'm self employed and business is increasing. My wife and I work together, and work together well. The business does run me though, I no longer run the business. I'm in good health for the most part, but haven't had a check up or physical in probably 8 years. I don't mind wearing old clothes, it's all I've ever worn. The shoes do hurt, maybe I will splurge and get some new ones. I don't mind staying home... it's good for the family I think. I don't mind not having cable... most of what's on tv is garbage anyway.

I enjoy the simple things in life. I enjoy living simple. It's the stress of keeping up with the world around me that's stressing me out. Nobody can afford much as it is, so everybody raises their prices even more to make up for it.

You know, and I'm not advertising here, but we actually lowered prices on our website and business almost doubled. Sure, we work harder for less money per item, but in the long run it pays out more since we sell more. Why don't more businesses lower their prices?

Something rather personal happened to me a little over a year ago. Something I had no control over. Something that couldn't be undone. It was the second turning point in my life. The first, as some of you may recall, was walking away from cocaine and everybody around me to start fresh and rebuild the life that I plummeted into the bottom of a barrel. This last time it wasn't something I could just walk away from. Not to get all spiritual or religious, but I let go. I stopped looking for the answers. I stopped trying to fix what was wrong myself. Instead I walked into a church and opened myself up to a God that my whole life I've been told doesn't exist and doesn't care for me. The first few months I felt silly being there. Then things started to change, colors were brighter, nature was livelier, and slowly answers fell into place. Things seems to have more meaning and purpose than they did before. Not always evident at first.

No matter what, we've always got exactly what we need.

I read Antuzzi's threads and follow his story, and see the same miracle's happening for him. We all have exactly what we need as long as we open ourselves up to it. Whether you believe or not.
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Report this Post08-21-2010 01:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgDirect Link to This Post
And I'm stressing about should I spend stupid big money I don't have to go see a concert.
I feel ashamed.

I hope you & your family see some light soon.

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Tears....

Thanks for posting. So very happy to hear that you kicked some demons out. I have had to do the same thing in the past. There is no room for life, while trying to destroy it. Steadfast. Hold your ground.

(I read every word of it. )

Edit: A rabbit with a pancake on it's head did not seem appropriate, so, here is a dancing dog... https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/077282.html

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Spoken like a true man.
Props to you, glad there are still people like you around.
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Report this Post08-21-2010 08:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
Check your PMs. Also Boony, you should feel ashamed. I know what you did...
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Originally posted by 17Car:

Spoken like a true man.
Props to you, glad there are still people like you around.


Ditto. I have hope for the world (and the country) when I hear things like this. You might be poor, but character is everything, and you sound like one of the richest people in the world characterwise..
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Also Boony, you should feel ashamed. I know what you did...


And I will pay, of that i'm sure.

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