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Billboard Campaign Puts Controversial Right-to-Die Group in the Spotlight by Rallaster
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2...al-suicide-campaign/


 
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A national right-to-die organization has launched a controversial billboard campaign to inform terminally ill and elderly adults that they have a right to end their own lives -- but critics say the group is simply preying on vulnerable senior citizens and mentally unstable people.

The Georgia-based Final Exit Network says it provides a service for ailing people who want to die, giving them the information, materials and emotional support they need to commit suicide. But the group's detractors say its mission is immoral and dangerous -- and members of the group's leadership, as well as some volunteers, are facing criminal trials in two states on charges that include facilitation to commit manslaughter, conspiracy to commit manslaughter, assisted suicide, evidence-tampering and racketeering.

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I really don't know what to say. My opinion on this, is that if I was in a situation where I would have to be on life support for the rest of my life, just let me die. If I had a condition that wasn't lethal, but was incurable and caused me pain to the point of not being able to function, let me die.

I marked this political because I know it will turn that way
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Report this Post07-21-2010 04:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
OMFG. if you want some lols go the the site. www.finalexitnetwork.org
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sad part is - this issue does not care about the actual person involved - it is all about the greedy & petty surviving family members, and, of course - the poor doctor cought in the middle of the bickering.

and, of course, after a few years - what was once "the right to die" becomes "the expectation to just go and die"

cant just let the old & sickly wander off into the woods & never come back.....
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Report this Post07-21-2010 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTDirect Link to This Post
I have no problem with someone that wants to die so long as they made the decision alone with no coersion and they are of sound mind when they made the decision. Also, I don't want to see a single cent of tax payer money go to pay for it. If the government is paying for both healthcare and euthanasia, then there is an obvious conflict of interrest. Same with health insurance companies. They should no pay for euthanasia either.
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Report this Post07-21-2010 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RallasterSend a Private Message to RallasterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

I have no problem with someone that wants to die so long as they made the decision alone with no coersion and they are of sound mind when they made the decision. Also, I don't want to see a single cent of tax payer money go to pay for it. If the government is paying for both healthcare and euthanasia, then there is an obvious conflict of interrest. Same with health insurance companies. They should no pay for euthanasia either.


That's just it, under ObamaCare they won't pay for it. They'll just ration your care and you'll die from the lack of care you're receiving...
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I dunno..."right to die" laws and arguments have never made much sense to me--but then I am strange sometimes

If I choose--for whatever reason--to drink a cup of hemlock tea, I really-really-really dont give a damn what "the law" or "society" thinks of it.....and I would be too dead to be bothered listening to their whining or suffering their "punishments" over it.

Course they COULD always drag my corpse into a courtroom, strap it to a chair and go thru the "due process" of finding me violating a law......and throw the stiff in a cell for a few decades...not like the bones will much give a damn

Politicizing and legalizing the whole life/ death mess makes about as much sense as trying to make migrating geese carry passports.
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Report this Post07-22-2010 12:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

I dunno..."right to die" laws and arguments have never made much sense to me--but then I am strange sometimes

If I choose--for whatever reason--to drink a cup of hemlock tea, I really-really-really dont give a damn what "the law" or "society" thinks of it.....and I would be too dead to be bothered listening to their whining or suffering their "punishments" over it.

Course they COULD always drag my corpse into a courtroom, strap it to a chair and go thru the "due process" of finding me violating a law......and throw the stiff in a cell for a few decades...not like the bones will much give a damn


It wouldn't be you though. In that point of your life, typically you would not be able to get the tea yourself. Whomever gets you the hemlock without a doctors prescription would be the one in court.

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Report this Post07-22-2010 05:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MidEngineManiacSend a Private Message to MidEngineManiacDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by twofatguys:


It wouldn't be you though. In that point of your life, typically you would not be able to get the tea yourself. Whomever gets you the hemlock without a doctors prescription would be the one in court.

Brad


Oh, thats not a problem...I've already signed a death-bed affidavit that my ex-wife got it for me.
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Report this Post07-22-2010 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
quite thread.
yes - scary topic.
most convinced they will have a "good death"?
tho - heart failure due to obesity is a good odds fav for most. quick enough. unless, of course - you are "saved", and now get to spend the rest of your years with "stroke babble". lopsided face. maybe even drooling.
could part of the problem be doctors who drag human life beyond what the human body is capable of?


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Report this Post07-22-2010 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for frontal lobeSend a Private Message to frontal lobeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

could part of the problem be doctors who drag human life beyond what the human body is capable of?



Not really.


We have all kinds of technology available that didn't exist 50 years ago. I can drag things out a LONG time. But I don't make the decision to do that.

It is the "loved one" who just loves their sick family member/friend SO much that they "want EVERYthing done for them".

That sounds SO compassionate, doesn't it. Do EVERYthing for them.


Doctors don't usually get to be the ones to decide when to pull back or when to stop things. That isn't legal. If it is the patient and they are of sound mind, THEY decide. If the patient isn't, then it is who they specifically designated. And if no one is specifically designated, then there is a default legal order of decision making.

Guess what? I'm not on the default list and neither is any doctor.
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