A state representative plans to support four missionaries who are facing an initial court hearing following their arrests at a recent Arab festival in Dearborn, Michigan.
The four were passing out leaflets about Christianity in Dearborn, which has a large Muslim population. One of the missionaries was engaging in peaceful conversation with several Muslim youths, while the other three were videotaping the dialogue before they were all arrested on June 18.
Since their activities were carried out peacefully, State Representative Tom McMillin believes the missionaries were falsely arrested. Their cameras were seized, but police have refused to view the footage of their arrest or release a detailed report on the incident.
"I wonder if they're trying to craft a police report knowing that these videos show that nothing was done wrong," McMillin suggests. "And the illegal confiscation of the videos, I mean it really appears to be a lot of injustice. Now I could be surprised. Maybe they'll drop the charges and realize that the Constitution applies in Dearborn as well."
Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center (TMLC), tells OneNewsnow the missionaries' free-speech rights were violated, and he contends that no criminal laws were broken.
"The next step, in what I call the enforcement of sharia law in Dearborn, Michigan, is the arraignment that is going to take place in the Dearborn District Court," he explains.
Representative McMillin plans to attend today's arraignment, but Thompson feels that one aspect of the case is already very clear. "This is the first step in a series of steps that the city of Dearborn is taking to placate the large Moslem population that they have there, and they don't mind stepping on the constitutional rights of Christians to do that," he notes.
The TMLC president assures that his firm will vigorously fight for the missionaries' constitutional rights. As a part of that process, a lawsuit will be filed against the city in protest of what he refers to as their "illegal arrests" and for their equipment being confiscated. Meanwhile, McMillin will see what happens at the hearing.
"If they go forward with this charade and actually try and trump up charges, I certainly will be by the sides of the defendants," he assures. "I certainly will not sit silent."
He hopes to draw a line in the sand against the efforts of those in Dearborn who want to squelch the free-speech rights of Christians who disagree with Islam.
Maybe those people in Michigan will finally realize that we are in the USA and not some Muslim country. Our people have constitutional rights here and those arrests were bogus.
I am curious as to what is on those video tapes and what the police are going to say is the reason they arrested those missionaries. I hope the missionaries sue the individual offiers involved on civil rights violations. This is America, not Iran. You can't just arrest anyone anytime you want.
Imagine what would have happened if there was no video tape. The police could write up the report any way they want and it would be their word against the missionary's word. In court, that would mean the missionaries would lose to the trumped up charges.
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
Granted it has been edited and may have left some bits and pieces out, and I can understand the Moslems being annoyed by the videocameras in their faces, but really no excuses.
I don't understand at all why the Moslems don't want to answer questions about their religion on camera, I mean the whole event was to inform people about Islam, so why not record some of the information??? I wonder if I put on a neon shirt that says "Security," can I push people around with viewpoints that are different than mine?
I'll move out the boondocks and live on my own before I submit to Sharia law in America.
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
I'll move out the boondocks and live on my own before I submit to Sharia law in America.
Or Canada..........and yeh, that is what it is coming to with these people......Its going to come down to a choice of submit to them, or beat them back to the stone age so it takes them another 700 years to re-orginize....
Nope, I wont answer to **** -re..er..shira law either. I'll exterminate them before THAT ever happens.
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Tony Kania Member
Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
Grew up near there. Yes, a lot of edditing, but as real as the sun will rise. They swarm just like that, and you have no escape route. The little boy in blue that helped to "entrap" the christians, is the persona that you WILL find in that area of America. Over 600,000 and growing in the Greater Detroit metro area.
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Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
but what they did could be construed as inciting a riot. They had a conflict the year before when they handed out pamphlets. Let them walk in some neighborhoods in Detroit with white power signs and see what happens...
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
NO YOU DID NOT. There is nothing else you need to know to predict the future of our country. It has nothing to do with Islam or Christianity.
I find I have little room for anything except contempt for most of my fellow countrymen. Do you see the anger and hate and absolute justification in their eyes? They are blinded. Don't think we don't have just as many people that you might call friends that are just as blind,ignorant,intolerant, angry,hateful and have just as little regard for what this nation is supposed to represent.
People like this don't care to take refuge in a country that respects each others wishes and allows even protects them. They want their respective empire to be the top dog. This is the whole reason America choose the path of freedom and yet our own people can't even appreciate it. How can we expect these ****ing to do any different.
**** this **** man. Lets just get it on and make some mama's cry.
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Posts: 20709 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
but what they did could be construed as inciting a riot. They had a conflict the year before when they handed out pamphlets. Let them walk in some neighborhoods in Detroit with white power signs and see what happens...
I'm sorry, but your muslim friends were not being tolerant nor respectful. Your muslim friends broke the law by assaulting people on a public street which in America is cinsidered a public forum. They had every right to be out there.
When the Leftist KKK march in the streets nobody assaults them.
So gfy!
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fierobear Member
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I'm sorry, but your muslim friends were not being tolerant nor respectful. Your muslim friends broke the law by assaulting people on a public street which in America is cinsidered a public forum. They had every right to be out there.
When the Leftist KKK march in the streets nobody assaults them.
So gfy!
In no way I was supporting the muslims. I was just saying the christians aren't as innocent as they claim to be. The crocodile was aroused and a bit hungry. How many police are around the KKK march route? Have a walk on the northside of Witchita with a "I support Arizona immigration laws" t shirt and see how free you are to walk there...
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In no way I was supporting the muslims. I was just saying the christians aren't as innocent as they claim to be. The crocodile was aroused and a bit hungry. How many police are around the KKK march route? Have a walk on the northside of Witchita with a "I support Arizona immigration laws" t shirt and see how free you are to walk there...
I don't know where Witchita is, a [sic] on your part, but nothing would happen. Even if the tee-shirt said "Yo apoyo Arizona las leyes de inmigración". Hispanics are not a hate-filled or violent culture outside the criminal elements.
You don't understand that most Muslims hate and despise you. You can be all nice to them and support all you want, it will not change that fact. Just know that they do and pandering to them won't change anything.
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86GT3.4DOHC Member
Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
how about putting up the video for that. it was posted not to long ago.
I'm sure Muslims showing up at a Christian festival, and attempting to to cause controversy would get the same treatment - if not shot & killed.
I agree they were not treated well. but - either way - they were there for the sole purpose of creating this controversy - and here it is.
the blinding ignorance of religion
I don't know a single Christian that would get pissed at a Muslim.. never have seen one mad about any other religions actually.. I have seen us upset and distressed over other religions.. but I've never seen anger. I don't know what Christians you are talking about, but none of my Christian brothers would allow that treatment of anyone else.
EDIT: Proverbs 18:2 - "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion"
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Like my dad says, weve been bombing the wrong country for years.
We are slowly getting taken over (I mean they have a muslim president now) and nobody wants to die for freedom anymore. Our country was founded on patriotism and will decease based on cowardice.
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Originally posted by theBDub: I don't know a single Christian that would get pissed at a Muslim.. never have seen one mad about any other religions actually.. I have seen us upset and distressed over other religions.. but I've never seen anger. I don't know what Christians you are talking about, but none of my Christian brothers would allow that treatment of anyone else.
EDIT: Proverbs 18:2 - "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion"
lol - well, there are endless threads calling for the elimination of Muslims. and I expect most are made by your christian brothers
lol - well, there are endless threads calling for the elimination of Muslims. and I expect most are made by your christian brothers
If they are doing that, then they aren't getting the same message from Jesus that I'm getting. But unfortunately "christians" who don't actually seek His Face sometimes put out a bad name for Christians. Oh well. I understand where you are coming from, now.
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Posts: 16233 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
If I was in the shoes of these American's and was being assaulted by these Muslims, I KNOW what direction I would take. FIrst, I would (have) gotten the overweight blue shirted security guard, to follow me around. He understood the issue between who can speak, versus who can ask questions. He would be a key ally. Second, since the police confiscated the cameras the Muslims now beleive that the whole incident did not happen. How wrong! Well, the radical Muslims forgot that America has YouTube. I would find a lawyer who is sympathetic to individual freedom's and show them this shooting. Two legal groups come to me: The Pacific Legal Foudation and the ACLU. Ask them to press charges against the people in the video for assault and battery, restriction for free assembly, and restriction of the ability of free speech. And yes, I would file a suit against the Dearborn police for false arrest! If the attorney's want to work on a contigency basis, then this would work. This could be a $100's of thousand of dollars in settlement costs. Fourth, next time, bring a concealed camera. Now that would be fun to ask these Muslims (you notice I am not caling them American's, for obvious reasons) what they think of 911(?), the benefit of how Sharia law would have on orur nation(?) their belief on the sactitiy of free speech(?) thier reaction to a free and indepedant Isreal(?), our Constitutional form of Government(?). Jeezus, I just realized I could type for another 45 minutes with other questions. You like?
Cordially, Kevin
p.s.
I bet Hannity, Limbough, Savage, Imus, Laura Ingraham, Drudge, Huffington, O'Rieily, etc., would adore gertting a copy of this sent to them. Does anybody know how to do this?
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
Need something to get your blood boiling???? Has anyone heard of this new word? Dhimmitude? Amish and other religious groups may be exempt from forced purchase of healthcare policies under Obama care. You know what other groups this could include ???Muslims and Christian Scientists may be exempt from having to have government healthcare. Word of the Day: Dhimmitude Unbelievable
I had my doubts so I checked with Snopes. There is an exemption for "certain religious groups" in the Health Care Bill. Obama supporters check it out yourself. Had never heard the word until now---Type it into Google and start reading Pretty interesting. Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering from within! The prez is leading us right down the path to total Muslim control and you don't care! Maybe you voted for him but now the truth comes out. Maybe you should rethink what you have done.
Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.
The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims may be specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims may be specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I John Smith, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, cars and etc. and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance at our expence. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.
Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor or belief in God! If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, brother?" Now all you Obama voters get in line for your free stuff!...However, I suggest you don't hold your breath!... I recommend sending this email to all your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it and what the past election has done to all of us!
P.S. Have you heard about the summit Obama is holding this month in DC for thefuture Muslim business leaders in the US ? He wants to increase their ability to begin business opportunities in the US for the Muslim community! Better start looking for a country that doesn't cater to the Muslims ~ Austrailia doesn't because this country will be overrun by Muslims like Europe is currently experiencing. And you thought our problem was the Mexicans!...... Click here: Dhimmitude - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude>
Also, Google for Dhimmitude and see what it really means. If this was intentionally put in the Obamacare bill by Obama, he should be impeached today!
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"As for the concept of dhimmitude, it represents a behavior dictated by fear (terrorism), pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability. The origin of this concept is to be found in the condition of the Infidel people who submit to the Islamic rule without fighting in order to avoid the onslaught of jihad. By their peaceful surrender to the Islamic army, they obtained the security for their life, belongings and religion, but they had to accept a condition of inferiority, spoliation and humiliation. As they were forbidden to possess weapons and give testimony against a Muslim, they were put in a position of vulnerability and humility."
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Cheever3000 Member
Posts: 12400 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
What do the Muslims want to happen to these Christians? Stone them?
kevin: do you actually believe the ACLU would defend Christians?
Considering the takeover in Europe by proponents of Sharia law, the increased influence of the Muslim belief in the US, the pandering of our president, and their chosen method for dealing with the 'infidel', I'd say our future is here:
From Revelation 20:41 King James Bible
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And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
emphasis mine
Note: I did NOT say that Obama is the anti-christ.
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Cheever3000 Member
Posts: 12400 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
What do the Muslims want to happen to these Christians? Stone them?
kevin: do you actually believe the ACLU would defend Christians?
Yes Cheever3000,
They would defend Mr. Limbough. You know the ACLU did previously( 2 years ago?) when the 'lame stream media' attempted to confiscate his medical records. The ACLU fought the ABC's, NBC's, CBS in court, and defeated them on the privacy of information act. The court ruled that the media, or anybdy else, is restricted from veiwing private information, from a private individual, not withstanding that persons media notoriaty.
Cordially, Kevin
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tutnkmn Member
Posts: 3426 From: York, England, U.K. Living in Ohio Registered: May 2006
They swarm just like that, and you have no escape route. The little boy in blue that helped to "entrap" the christians, is the persona that you WILL find in that area of America. Over 600,000 and growing in the Greater Detroit metro area. 
